9/6 "...that an in-depth state audit showed only 19% of
illegals bother to file taxes, and the best
data on illegal immigrants, from the late 1990s
National Science Foundation study, shows that
each citizen-headed household in California
pays out a net extra $1,178 to shore up 3
million mostly low-income illegal immigrants."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/977367/posts
\_ Do you expect fact to change the opinion of democrats?
\_ when was the last time you changed your mind about something
based on a motd post? and nice english.
\_ a motd post? it's happened. an off site url provided by a
motd poster? much more often. im not either of the above
but if you're going to point out someone's writing flaws you
should first board up your own windows.
\_ just wait until you get your wish, and your grocery bills are several
times what they are today
\_ Funny, that's the same argument people made against the abolition
\- shipping is probably cheeper than you think
it is. look if you are serious about *reducing*
the number of *illegal* immigrants [as opposed
to focusing on abusing them], you clearly need
to crack down on employers. you start *jailing*
employers [for harboring potential terrorists?]
including soccer moms hiring illegal domestic
workers, and then the the numbers will decline.
and while you are at it, go after illegals
from EU countries. --psb
of slavery. And I'm wearing mostly cotton clothing. Nice
argument, slaver.
\_ cotton clothing and food are not the same, food is perishable
so you can't simply move to imports with little effects since
the price of refrigerated shipping is not as negligible as
throwing clothing into a tanker container.
\_ shipping is probably cheeper than you think it is. the std
example of non-tradable item is a "haircut". look if
you are serious about *reducing* the number of *illegal*
immigrants [as opposed to focusing on abusing them], you
clearly need to crack down on employers.you start *jailing*
employers [for harboring potential terrorists?] including
soccer moms hiring illegal domestic workers, and then the
\_ Some of my best friends are black. No, really!
\_ nice retort
the numbers will decline. and while you are at it, go
after illegals from EU countries. --psb
\_ Sounds like a good plan. Why aren't you running for
Governor?
\_ If that were his only platform I'd vote for psb for
Governator. Unfortunately the current batch are all
afraid of "the latino community" voting against them
for any efforts to clean up the illegal mess. Who
said the thing about democracy only works until
the people figure out they can vote themselves
public funds?
\_ The product doesn't matter. The price will go up if we
don't have illegal immigrant labor, yes. But the product
won't go away, and if the employers are deprived of their
cheap labor, they'll have to modernize or increase wages.
You're basically arguing about maintaining a second class
resident who can be exploited for cheap labor with little
chance to rise above that. Talk about your class warfare.
How is this fundamentally different from slavery?
\_ Exactly, they want an underclass to work basically as
slaves to keep things cheap.
\_ And the Dems say they're for the working class...
\_ the labor illegals do can't be modernized. i.e., not
everything can be picked by machines.
\_ tough shit. so people will pay more for non-slave
laber speciality food items. im not shedding any
tears that a few of your favorite and unnecessary
food favorites will go up in price because you won't
have third class slave labor to pick it anymore.
cheap prices is the lamest reason ive ever heard to
ignore our own immigration and labor laws.
\_ And you want to deny them things like driver license so
their condition become even more like slaves?
\_ No you moron. I want to send them back home. If they want
to come here, let them come legally. Crazy idea, rule of
law and all that.
\_ You guys just hate them damn spics. Come on, admit it.
\_ What are you talking about you idiot? Legal
immigration is open to everyone of every nation.
You're the one using the racial slur.
\- immigration policy is not "first in - first out"
the policy very much affects the composition of
who actually gets approved. also there are a lot
of different visas, rather than a single pool.
--psb
\_ Yea, again US should learn from my country Singpaore.
When Singapore started to have some illegal
immigrants, it just says, come forward before such and
such date and we will send you home. Otherwise, if we
find you, we will cane you and then send you home.
Worked like a charm. Solves the problem and allows
the illegal immigrant to get on with life, unlike
wimpy US measures like denying them driving license
which just makes their life miserable while they
would continue to remain in the US. Of course, US
already allowed the problem to fester for too long,
and I suspect the US economy would suffer if all the
illegals all go home all at once. - bglee
\- yeah, the US is just like SIN. really the place
to use caning are certain white collar crimes.--psb
\_ no. destroying the lives and careers of american
workers, families, soon-to-be retirees and others
should be punishable by death. the cane was
appropriate for that idiot child who spray painted
the cars in singapore, not billion dollar crimes. |