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8/30    woohoo! partied with georgy russell!
        \_ So?  Did she go down on you?  If not don't bother us.
           \_ You're just jealous you didn't blow him.
              \_ You mean.. HER..
              \_ speaking of partying, how is it that nweaver is not on
                 friendster? I was expecting a user profile for him full of
                 'I partied with Nick Weaver' testimonials.
                  \_ I'm not on friendster either.  --friendless and forlorn

8/30    What is the easiest way to run spamassassin on an existing mailbox?
        \_ formail -s spamassassin < mailbox > mailbox.filtered - danh
           \_ thanks

8/29    So do we have general agreement that censoring certain threads simply
        because the source URL is a major newspaper you don't like is a bad
        idea or are we just going to start censoring all URLs from all
        sources on all topics and destroy any value the motd has for everyone?
        I vote for the former but if we want to get into destroying links just
        because, I'm willing to sink to that level too as necessary.
        \_ Berkeley, home the free speech movement, home of censorship.
           I like hearing divergent points of view. Censorship sucks.
           \_ There are divergent points of view and there are liars that pass
              themselves off as journalists and fair-and-balanced commentators.
              \_ And then there are idiots that insist on making the
                 decision for everyone else.  Grow up, son -- there are other
                 points of view.
                 \_ We report, you decide.
        \_ The best way to uncover life's little lies and insanities is to
           shine a light on them, not cover them up.  There was a copy of Mein
           Kampf in my high school's library, very informative reading it was.
           If you think someone's a crook you don't erase him from history,
           you put him on display for all to see.  Hopefully the anonymous
           censor may grow to see this one day.
             -- ilyas
        \_ People who delete links because of their source are 1) fascist
           or 2) are Moonies.
        \_ The real solution is for those w/ opinions to create public readable
           files w/ a list of news organizations and their views. if psb tells
           me not to read the wash post but to read the atlantic, i'll listen...
           why? because he's way smarter than all of us. -psb #27 fan.
           or 2) still rebelling against mommy and daddy.
           \- i guess WashPost is ok, but i dont read any daily newspapers.
              i'm more interesting in explanations than facts. and those
              come from aggregating facts and adding some thinking.
              the atlantic now and then has interesting articles [like on
              on modern piracy] but when it comes to political stuff, often
              i wish the articles were shorter. in cases where i know of
              better sources [like on foreign policy] i didnt read the
              atlantic much, but they do have some interesting articles on
              domestic issues [like their article on early admissions to
              college]. atlantic is pretty cheep. worth reading: NYT if someone
              else pays, e'ist [worth paying for], NYker if can get cheep,
              maybe atlantic if have time, intenational securty is sort of
              specialized by pretty good, NYRevBooks [a little pricey, ideal
              if you can split a sub]. maybe TLS and LRB online. i dont read
              much online. --psb
              \_ I prefer to combine thinking and facts myself.  Just having
                 reliable sources of facts is nice.
                 \- the selection of the facts presented, either intentionally
                    or incidentally, affects the impression made. secondarily
                    some prose is a pleasure to read and some a chore. the
                    aticles in the e'ist tend to be short. so does usa today.
                    in the case of the e'ist the articles are short because
                    they dont need padding [like telling you iraq is in the
                    middle east]. the articles in USA Today are short because
                    they dont say anything. a lot of the graphs you see in
                    time and newsweek are useless ... like they give you
                    absolute numbers when what you want are indexed changes
                    etc. the thinking for yourself comes from evaluating
                    different explanations. e.g. just facts about say the
                    "howard dean phenonomon" ... how old he is, where he is
                    from, his poll numbers, is positions on various issues
                    collpaosed to "for/against" dont mean much. asking is he
                    mcgovern or carter or mccain or something new might be
                    more interesting [borrwing from the current lexington]--psb

8/29    In general, can a hub be attached to a wireless bridge (like the D-Link
        DI-810+)?  I have two PCs in another room, but the DI-810+ only has one
        ethernet jack.  D-Link has sparse documentation, stfw didn't yield
        much useful info.
        \_ yes you can.  Why ddidn't you just do it and see?
        \_ think of a hub as sort of a wire splitter/combiner and nothing more.

8/30    Can someone explain briefly what blood types are about and why this
        woman died?
        http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_814563.html?menu=news.latestheadlines
        \_ Dude, really.  This is what google was made for.  Or Biology 1, for
           that matter.  Take a couple of seconds to pull your own weight.
           \_ Whatever.  I did.  I don't want a thesis paper.  Something half
              as long as it took you to abuse me would have been enough and
              I still don't know.
              \_ Give a man a fish...
              \_ Not only is OP lazy, but also ungrateful.
        \_ Red blood cells have "antigens" on their surfaces.  People's immune
           systems react to these "antigens".  There are 3 major surface
           antigens:  A, B, and RH+.  If you don't have either the A or B
           antigen in your blood, you are blood type O.  If you do not have
           the RH+ antigen, you are RH-.  Now, if you're type O, and someone
           puts type B blood into you, your body reacts pretty much allergicly
           to the B surface antigen.  If you're type AB+, your body won't
           react with any of the common surface antigens, A, B, nor RH+.
           \_ Thanks!
           react with any of the common surface antigens, A, B, nor RH+.
                \_ Not only is OP lazy, but also ungrateful.
           \_ Thanks!

8/30    How long does it usually take debian to release a new kernel-image or
        kernel-source package once a new kernel is released? I'd like the
        2.4.22 kernel, but would prefer to do it the "debian way".
        \_ From my experience, it takes very long, often several months.
           It took them months to release a fix for the recent Linux priocntl
           security problem.  I suggest to compile your own kernel if you really
           need 2.4.22.  You can also still do it the "debian way". There are
           some helper packages that provide utilities to package the kernels
           you build into deb packages but I don't remember the name of this
           utility anymore..
           \_ thanks!

8/30    I have a thriving Wriggly Wranch composter that I'd like to pass on
        to somebody before I move from Berkeley. Anybody want it? (for free)
        Any recomendations on where else to post it?   -brett
        http://www.stopwaste.org/WormBin.jpg
        \_ Try posting an ad on craigslist. Someone will want it.

8/30    Looking for cheap hotels in Las Vegas. Is http://hotels.com a good source?
        \_ Priceline in conjunction with http://biddingfortravel.com

8/30    I just walked by a really really fancy Chinese restaurant and
        according to the menu they serve shark fins, lion head, tiger paws,
        and peacock breasts. What's wrong with Chinese people? Shouldn't
        they go to jail for serving endangered species?
             \- did they serve troll? --psb
        \- did they serve troll? --psb
           \_ nothing wrong with serving troll.  they regenerate.
        \_ those are historical names.  none of that stuff is actually in
           there.
           \_ i thought shark fin soup has shark fin.
        \_ I've eaten a lot of moon cakes and sun biscuits.  -chinese
                               \- that's no moon --psb
                \_ are sun biscuits hot?
        \_ You forgot monkey brains and dog.
           \_ woof!
        \_ mmm civet

8/30    So much for any of the real culprits behind the energy crisis getting
        in trouble:
        http://csua.org/u/42v
        \_ And still Davis refuses to return hundreds of thousands in
           campaign contributions from Enron.
           \_ He'll need it once he's out of a job.
           \_ Nice.  I mean, "no, no, Gray Davis is totally ethical, man!"

        2.4.22 kernel, but would prefer to do it the "debian way".
        \_ From my experience, it takes very long, often several months.
           It took them months to release a fix for the recent Linux priocntl
           security problem.  I suggest to compile your own kernel if you really
           need 2.4.22.  You can also still do it the "debian way". There are
           some helper packages that provide utilities to package the kernels
           you build into deb packages but I don't remember the name of this
           utility anymore..
           \_ thanks!