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2003/8/29-30 [Recreation/Food] UID:10010 Activity:nil
8/29    I love Indian food, but I tend to make stinky fart after I eat them.
        Does anyone have a similar problem?
        \_ No, perhaps you should eat by putting it in your mouth instead
           of up your ass.
        \_ you need more vegetable in your diet.
           \_ I'm almost 100% carnitarian and don't have stinky farts.  very
              few farts at all.  it's the veggies that let loose all the time.
        \_ Indian food, on the whole, it's good, but on the hole it's terrible
2003/8/29-31 [Computer/Networking] UID:10011 Activity:moderate
8/29    How do you connect to the internet when you are travelling?
        (work or vacation)
        \_ i find the nearest university, go into their main library, and
           can usually use the computers there.
        \_ Vacation?  That's what vacation is for.  *Not* connecting to the
           net.  Bring a book.  Not a technical manual.  A real book.  Enjoy.
           \_ The internet has this useful stuff called 'information'.  It's
              often useful to have this 'information' about the place that
        \_ I don't. In fact, I avoid being connected at all when on vacation
        \_ McDonald's parking lot.
           \_ they have wi-fi??
              \_ duh. would you like fries with that?
        \_ For work, I usually make sure that I stay at a place with
           broadband. Barring that I use one of my isp's nationwide
           callin numbers. Usually in foreign countries I just buy a
           short term card that allows for dialup access.
           When I go on vacation I leave my computer behind.
           \_ If I'm on vaction in the states and feel a need for an email
              fix I just drop by a library.  Baring that it is pretty common
              to run into an internet cafe where you can check your email
              for a couple of bucks.
              you're travelling to, especially if you're not a native of the
              area.
2003/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/HW/Memory] UID:10012 Activity:nil
8/29    Pine core dumped on me, saying memory full.  /proc and /kern are full.
        \_ Do we care?
        \_ pine eats memory by making two copies of your mail spool in memory.
           Get rid of your extra old mail and it will stop filling up memory.
           \_ Better yet, get rid of pine.
              \_ get rid of both!
                 \_ best answer so far.
2003/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:10013 Activity:nil
8/29    How does ssh generate the fingerprint for the rsa public key?
        When I echo <pubkey from ssh_host_rsa_key.pub> | openssl sha1
        I get a different fingerprint than what ssh shows me, but when
        I look at the actual key they are the same.
        \_ umm, you know doing that sums the string 'pubkey', and not
           your actual key right?
           \_ he does now.
           \_ I figured it was obvious that 'pubkey' ment the public
              key from /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub. I've fixed it.
              \_ cat /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub | openssl sha1
                 \_ the right answer is ssh-keygen -l -f <keyf>
2003/8/29-30 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan] UID:10014 Activity:nil
8/29    Where there are US troops, there is prostitution.  Are there any
        reliable media reports on the prostitution situation in Iraq?
        \_ oh no! call the moral police!
        \_ how about take out the "US" in there.  I mean seriously,
           my dad was stationed next to Pakistani troops for while,
           they went out whoring and drinking as much as the next guy.
           goddamit i got trolled!  you win.
        \_ Summary: US BAD!  NON-US GOOD!
        \_ how about you learn how to format your posts?
        \_ Don't you know?  Only US troops do bad things.
        \_ Just think, lots of men, lots of hormones, and no gf/wife. It's
           just a norm in the military. On a side note, the Japs took care
           of this problem by providing Comfort Women-- legalizing
           prostitution in military barracks. Goals: increase troop
           morale, increase enrollment (hey if you're young and still
           virgin here is your chance to get laid), and decrease $$$
           flowing out of the military. It's a brilliant plan.
           \_ the concept may have been right, but the implementation
              was sexual slavery, rape, murder, etc. lots of hits on
              comfort women including this one:
              http://online.sfsu.edu/~soh/comfortwomen.html
           \_ The Japanese took care of the situation by having their troops
              rape half of the Eastern hemisphere.
           \_ Yep US only gets in trouble if they rape <14yo girls in Japan.
              They actually kick the guys out of the army. oooo. tough one.
              \_ Better than the UN where the very guys who are sent over to
                 protect women from human rights abuses end up buying, selling,
                 pimping, using, and raping them.
            \_ And one day, Japan will grow some balls and apologize outright
               for all the war crimes it perpertrated.  Spineless twats. -Jon
        \_ I don't think there is very much prostitution in Iraq. There
           is quite a bit of fraternization though.
           \_ Minimal prostitution in Iraq?  Your source of info?
                \_ Well, you wouldn't really want to pay money to have sex
                   with a potato sack, would you?  -John
2003/8/29-30 [Industry/Jobs] UID:10015 Activity:moderate
8/29    How do I deal with a co-worker who is delegating his responsibliities
        to me and then taking credit for the work afterwards? He's the
        Director of Architecture and had me write an architecture document.
        When I showed him the nearly completed doc, he essentially said to me
        "thanks, you know it wouldn't be right for you to present this to
        Engineering. I'll go ahead and present it."
        \_ If he's not your boss, how did he "have you" do it?
        \_ set him up... put "this document was written in full by XXX XXXXX"
           in the footers of every page after page 10.
        \_ It's too late for this one, but you need to network with Engineering
           and discuss what you're working on. If you get highjacked, piss and
           moan to them.
        \_ Is this your boss? If so, there is nothing you can do. That is
           what bosses do, they get people to do work for them and then
           take credit for it. The most you can hope for is a pat on the
           back from him and a raise when the time is due. If this is not
           your boss, complain to your boss.
           \_ He's not my boss. I did just complain to my boss in my weekly
              TPS report. And thus far, my solution to this was to name the
              new architecture after myself. -op
           \_ I'm a 'boss' and I always try to give my employees more credit
              than they are do... I routinely say "we did X" when it was really
              me doing X and then showing someone how to support X. Maybe
        \_ it's an easy enough task to show that you wrote the document
           by showing greater understanding of it than he does.  Having
           a good opportunity to do it is the problem.  btdt ... --Jon
        \_ You got burned on this one but you can do damage recovery by doing
           things like mailing the engineers and asking if they had any
           questions about your documentation.  In the future, keep in touch
           with them as you write it, show them drafts, etc along the way and
           when this asshole says it wouldn't be appropriate, grill him on it
           and ask why not?  If it's a written doc that they'll get and he
           only has a paper copy you can stick your name all over it.  Don't
           give up the original doc.  "It wouldn't be appropriate for me to
           give you my original source material".
        \_ is it really your architecture? ie: the content was based
           on his ideas or yours? also, these things should be checked
           into a Source Safe of some sort, if you did , it'll be
           under your name.
           \_ that's not enough.  this is a political situation, not a
              technical one.  no one important is ever going to see the
              name on the source control files.  the op must get out there
              and get involved and communicate with other people who matter
              why I'm never promoted. -happy at the bottom of the totem pole.
        \_ it's an easy enough task to show that you wrote the document
           by showing greater understanding of it than he does.  Having
           a good opportunity to do it is the problem.  btdt ... --Jon
           only has a paper copy you can stick your name all over it.  Don't
           give up the original doc.  "It wouldn't be appropriate for me to
           give you my original source material".
              and tell them about his plans and documents.  if he continues
              to be passive he'll just get crunched.  if all you did was leave
              your name on a source safe file, i'd steal your work, too.
2003/8/29-30 [Recreation/Food] UID:10016 Activity:kinda low
8/29    So Viceroy on Shattuck and University closed their chaat/take out
        annex and replaced it with an "Indian Grocer"/Ice Creamery.  Anyone
        checked this out yet?  Do they serve "Indian" ice cream like the
        place on Valencia/16th in SF?  Also, the Japanese Curry place next
        to Missing Link bit the dust and is being replaced by a Truly
        Mediterranean franchise.  Yummy fast food.  -- gabriel

8/29
        \- hello can you check if the truly med location has the yogurt-garlic
           drink or aryan? ok tnx. --psb
           \_ perferably the blonde female type aryan.  thanks.
              \- YMWTGF "aryan yogurt turkey" --psb
        \_ from now on, wash times and ny post links will just get deleted.
           ny times and wash post links can stay. any objections? i'm
           censoring by source, not by content.
           \_ aye.  And perhaps you could take care of the racist idiots
              too?
           \_ Ya know, I don't like the Moonies Times or the Murdoch Post
              either, but you're an idiot with far too much time on your
              hands.
2003/8/29-2004/2/17 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:11267 Activity:nil
11/29   Soda wedged with NFS problems.  Console unresponsive.  Rebooted.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Consumer/PDA, Computer/HW/IO] UID:12240 Activity:low
2/13    How do you tell if the "new" item you bought is really new or an open
        box rejected by another consumer?  I think it is illegal to do so but
        how can I tell?  I bought a pda from amazon about 1.5 weeks ago.
        There is no seal, broken or intact, on the box, or for any of the
        items in the box.  Today I notice scratches and marks on the part of
        the circuit board exposed after the keyboard is pulled out, although
        I have otherwise no complaint with it.
        \_ You think the previous owner gnawed on the inside of the pda?  You
           can file a complaint with Amazon.  They'll probably replace it if
           you whine enough.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:12241 Activity:high
2/12    How do I apply to Berkeley's CS Masters program as an undergrad?
        \_ Fill out the forms and turn them in.
           \_ No I mean most schools like MIT, Stanford, UCLA, UCSD, UCI,
              etc etc allow their undergrads to fill out an application
              and apply to their MS program directly without the trouble of
              of taking the GRE and letter of recommendations, assuming
              the've met the GPA requirements. I can't find such info on
              the http://www.cs.berkeley.edu website.
              \_ Berkeley doesn't tend to do this.  Most departments prefer
                 to accept candidates who have experienced more diverse
                 educational upbringing, i.e. gone away to other institutions.
                 Not to say they'll turn you down, I just wouldn't expect
                 there to be any easy way in, apart from the fact that maybe
                 you know your professors here and can get letters of rec
                 with better influence.
                 \_ This is correct. I have never heard of a Berkeley student
                    getting sweethearted into the graduate school in the way
                    of the other schools you mention (most notoriously MIT).
                    You go back into the general pool and pretty much go the
                    way everybody else does. If you have a relationship with a
                    prof already, it will help, but that's true anywhere.
                    \_ In fact, it is *more* difficult to get in to Berkeley
                       (PhD anyway) as a Berkeley undergrad. Not only does
                       your "general pool" stuff have to be acceptable, but
                       a professor has to want you here. I know a guy in
                       physics who got into MIT, Caltech, Princeton, Chicago,
                       and Berkeley (and one other I am forgetting, but he
                       applied to the Top Six) who was most shocked that he
                       got into Cal because of this fact.
                \_ wasn't there a honors program from eecs where one can go
                   on to a masters in eecs (required at least 3.7 gpa) ?
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Politics/Foreign, Finance/Investment] UID:12242 Activity:kinda low
2/13    http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/040213/economy_trade_1.html
        http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/040213/economy_prices_1.html
        Trade Gap widens.  Imports and raw material prices rising.
        Inflation coming.  Uh oh, doomsday scenario is coming true.
        Dollar falling like a rock and interest rate going up.
        Not bad for a Friday the 13th.
        \_ Inflation hasn't been and stayed this low for decades.  You want
           inflation?  Go checked out the Carter years for what real inflation
           looks like.  The rest of that stuff fluctuates over time.  Why are
           you so thrilled with the idea that our economy might collapse?  I
           hope you understand that something as big as the US economy is not
           under the control of the President, or the Federal government as a
           whole and cheering for a global economic collapse so your guy can
           get into office is simply sheer stupidity.  Have you ever talked to
           anyone who lived through the Depression?  If you had you wouldn't
           be so rah-rah about the economy possibly tanking for real.
           \_ am I supposed to be rah-rah about the economy when there is
              nothing to be rah-rah about it?  the great depression happened
              precisely because people became too optimistic about the
              economy.  are you on drugs?  as for inflation, I think everyone
              knows it is low, what people are concern is the direction
              it's going to go cause that will affect interest rate which
              may cause problems with various bubbles.
              \_ you don't have to rah-rah anything.  i simply told you there's
                 no reason to claim gloom and doom.  mild inflation is not an
                 economic problem.  it is quite natural.  only the insane,
                 short sellers, and hostile foreign powers rah-rah when the US
                 economy is in trouble.  i doubt you're a hostile foreign
                 power.
              \_ Hey you are the same "are you on drugs" person trolling the
                 motd below.
                 \_ what have you been smoking?  "are you on drugs" is
                    a common phrase on the motd.
        \_ No, no. You got it wrong. Our prices are just low, Low, LOW! You
           gotta buy American! High Quality! Excellent prices! 10% off? That's
           not enough! 20% off? No way! 50% off? WAY! Now we're talking! And
           why such a deal? 'Cause Crazy George is our manager and he wants
           to let you know it's ALL FOR SALE! Need credit? Crazy George will
           lend you the cash! Buy it! It's all good! Why worry about tomorrow
           when you can have fun TODAY! SWEET! BUY! YEEEARRRG!
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Computer/Theory] UID:12244 Activity:very high
2/13    How about a little academic anti-bragging?  Let's poll how low your
        SAT/GRE score was and how well you did in school.  Do not reply if you
        had a high score.  For me, I was an EECS major and I had a SAT of
        1300.  My math was an abysmal 680.  I think I was the only EECS guy
        with such a low math score.  I did ok in school (some As, mostly Bs).
        \_ In high school, 670 Verbal, 720 Math, 3.98 GPA.
           Graduated Cal with a 2.74.  Fucking ouch.
           \_ I think he wanted the other way around. I know a lot of people
              including myself who were good in HS but fucked up at Cal. I
              think it had more to do with peripheral issues than actual
              academics. I did well when I tried, but I had a hard time
              enjoying and motivating myself there. Although having Cal on my
              resume helped with job interviews, what with my shitty experience
              and having to explain shitty grades I should have gone elsewhere.
        \_ I failed every single math class after junior year in high school.
        \_ I graduated with a 2.3 GPA.
        \_ got in with 1200 SAT, English major, graduated with a 2.8. I'm
           making 6 digits as a sys adm.
        \_ 370 Verbal, 780 Math.  Graduated with honor in L&S CS with 3.65.
           (Now guess my ethnicity.)
           \_ Asian, Eastern European, or white nerdling who lived in a cave.
        \_ 540 Verbal, 670 Math, and got into EECS.  I thought hell would
           freeze over before I got into EECS with that score, but it happened.
           My guess is that I got in for geographic reasons.  I came from
           Modesto, and in general the Central Valley is under-represented in
           terms of % of people in California. -phale
           \_ I scored a lot higher and didn't get in.  --white boy
        \_ Well, my SAT was okay, but my GPA wasn't so hot. I wasn't even
           within the top 40-percentile of my class, yet I still got in.
           \_ are you a protected minority?
              \_ no. i think i simply got lucky.
                 \_ there's a small quota for "low end white people" too
        \_ 640 verbal, 730 math, Entered Fall '85 EECS
           \_ Oh, 1370!  How shameful!  This is supposed to be anti-bragging.
              \_ yer supposed to say "apparently your verbal score is
                 overinflated, because ...", or "yermom accepts all
                 applicants regarless of SAT score"
        \_ 1410, l&s, non-cs, below 2.7 gpa, making well into 6 figs
        \_ 1320, foreign student, didn't finish high school because we end
           in december, used 10th grade exam results to apply, our
           grades are like a1, a2, b1, b2, didn't know how to translate
           to gpa, so I just considered both a1 and a2 as 4.0, which
           made my gpa 4.0.  they did get my transcript though so they
           can see everything.   had one semester of 9th grade in the
           US and got a 4.0, so that might have helped.  Cal at first
           wanted my 12th grade exam results, but I ask them not to be
           so picky, so I got in, but UCSD rejected me for unknown
           reasons.  Cal was pretty tough for me (B), but many of my
           fellow countrymen did really well at Cal, most with > 3.5 gpa,
           one with 17 A+'s in EECS.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:12245 Activity:high
2/13    DRUDGE REPROT EXCLUSIVE: KERRY SODOMIZED BY GOAT
        Why is the liberal media afraid to carry this story?
        Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, The Wall Street Journal are all
        carrying it. What is the New York Times afraid of???
        \_ perhaps they are afraid of looking like a fool when the story
           turns out to be false.
        \_ I am so glad that there are resources like soda which I can turn to.
        \_ The Times policy is to not use the name of victims of sex crimes
           if the nature of the crime will humiliate or degrade the victim.
           \_ Where did you get "sex crime" out of all this?
              \_ You think it is legal to have sex with a goat?
                 \_ Yermom thought it was
                    \_ No matter what yermom told you, you cannot have
                       sex with that goat. It is still a sex crime.
        \_ Seriously though, I heard Kerry had sex outside of marriage? I bet
           he killed innocent Vietnamese too, before getting himself shot up
           and losing the war. I bet he masturbates too.
           \_ He shot Vietnamese people!  He's racist!
              \_ americans shot americans during the civil war. i guess they're
                 racist too.
                 \_ no, because doing something to your own kind is inherently
                    not racist. just like homies chillin wid my niggas.
              \_ And he was once in the same room as Jane Fonda!!!1!!!
        \_ How many times has a drudge headline been wrong?  He briefly
           posted and quickly retracted something about 4-5 years ago which is
           a much better record than any newspaper.  He got sued for it and
           the guy suing lost.  You can mock the source as much as you want,
           but your guy is still a loser.  At least Dean has passion and
           Edwards is charming and has a personality.  Even Sharpton has more
           going for him.  What's with the party's obsession with putting these
           dead as a doornail Gore-bot clones like Kerry up for election?
           \_ What is this headline? It's a self-serving publicity attempt (and
              it appears to work). In this case the actual Drudge headline was:
              KERRY FIGHTS OFF MEDIA PROBE OF RECENT ALLEGED GOAT SEX
              Ok, well that's factually correct isn't it? Drudge is alleging
              goat sex and Kerry is fighting that. If they come up with
              a sleazy story then fine, milk it, but here he's milking
              something that doesn't even exist yet.
              \_ That is just what the liberal media wants you to think.
                 The Drudge Report and Fox News only report the truth!
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Uncategorized] UID:12246 Activity:nil
2/13    Would anyone care to define and explain the usefulness (as compared
        to OO) of Aspect Oriented Programming?
        \_ What is that?  Is it like 'design patterns'?
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:12247 Activity:high
2/13    How can one refer/save to a mailbox with space in its names in mutt?
        \_ Standard UNIX suggestions: have you tried
                backslash space (my\ mailbox)?
                single quotes ('my mailbox')?
                HTML equivalent (my%20mailbox)?
                \_ If you're going to answer, at least attempt it yourself.
                   \_ If you're going to ask a question, at least attempt
                      to explain the avenues you've already explored.
                      \_ Was not OP.  You're still totally unhelpful.
                         \_ Could have been, if op was new to mutt.
                            \_ You answer suggests you have less familiarity
                               with mutt or even unix than I do.  This is
                               not an insult and does not imply I know a lot.
                               And thanks for your time.  -- op
                               with mutt than I do.  I don't mean this as
        \_ It's a pain, but I was able to do this by typing "^V^V ". --scotsman
           \_ Thanks, you are awesome!  BTW, how did you find this?  It
              certainly does not show up in online help by typing '?'
              \_ it's in the mutt manual under editor bindings. it's also a
                 typical binding for a 'quoted-insert' type of function in
                 shells.
                 \_ v stands for "verbatim"?
                               an insult, and thanks for your time.  -- op
                               with mutt or even unix than I do.  I don't mean
                    \_ no.  it's unix, it stands for nothing.
        \_ Just rename the mailbox.
           \_ or perhaps a link will do.
                    \_ that's what makes it better.
        \_ sounds like a shitty mail program to me.
                               this as an insult or even imply I know a lot.
                               and thanks for your time.  -- op
        \_ It's a pain, but I was able to do this by typing "^V^V ". --scotsman
        \_ Just rename the mailbox.
           \_ or perhaps a link will do.
              \_ probably so but "^V^V " was so much more arcane, it just has
                 to be the better unix answer for the motd.
                 \_ not really. and only one ^v is necessary anyway.
                    \_ that's what makes it better.
        \_ sounds like a shitty mail program to me.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Reference/Religion] UID:12248 Activity:very high
2/13    Has anybody ever heard of an "Evidence Bible"?  I saw one on the desk
        of my accountant, and it kinda freaked me out.  Should I be freaked
        out?
        \_ From Amazon:
           The Evidence Bible is the New Testament + Psalms & Proverbs in the
           KJV. Throughout the entire Bible there are quotes from every
           revivalist you can think of in addition to some from well known
           scientiest. This Bible has the answer to any question - Athieism,
           evolution, dinosaurs, etc.. Great for skeptics & so awesome for street
           witnessing.
           So it sounds like you accountant is an Evangelical Christian.
           evolution, dinosaurs, etc.. Great for skeptics & so awesome for
           street witnessing.  [formatd]
           So it sounds like your accountant is an Evangelical Christian.
           Whether or not that should freak you out depends on whether he
           evangelizes to you, and what kind of things he's accounting for you.
           \_ God told me Brother Oral's ministry needed your money more than
              the government.
              \_ It probably does.
              \_ yermom's oral ministry is pretty cheap though...
           \_ No.  God loves you and will clean up the sin from your
              life as you trust him through continuous prayer and
              Bible reading.  As for the trustworthyness of the Bible,
              I've been digging for 4 years now, and the more I dig,
              the firmer the foundation gets.  Issac Newton was a
              serious Bible scholar who trusted every word. You can also.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:12249 Activity:moderate
2/13    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4262421
        "ominous parallels between fiscal overstretch in imperial Bourbon
                France and contemporary America."
        \_ financial doom and gloom predicted blah blah blah.  Its nice that
           they mention the parellells exist, but annoying that they dont
           elaborate at all.
        \_ Only Kerry can save us!  He has such great ideas!  Like, uhm, well
           he's not George Bush!
           \_ You mean like cutting expenses and raising taxes? What
              a nutty guy!
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Transportation/Car] UID:12250 Activity:very high
2/13    Anyone know what the availability of the new Mazda RX-8 is?  Do you
        have to get on some sort of six month waiting list, like when the
        new Mini Cooper came out?
        \_ Whatever you do, don't get a car like Mini, RX-8, or whatever with
           an automatic transmission (even those with a manual shift mode
           like Triptronic, Steptronic, etc.). The big difference is the
           use of a torque converter as opposed to a dry clutch. If you get
           a sports car, you've simply lost power by virtue of running
           your engine output through a torque converter. The only
           exception is if you get one of those sequential manual gearboxes
           offered only on BMW, MR2, and Ferarri.
           \_ Actually Audi also has a good one on the TT 3.2.
        \_ Totally random question, but what's its engine's compression ratio?
           \_ An engine's compression ratio is how much the gas in the
              cylinder gets compressed from the time the piston is in the
              down position to the point where the piston crests. Higher
              ratios lead to higher power output but it also takes more
              energy to compress the gas.
              \_ I knew all that.  I just wanted the number.
           \_ 10.0:1, though that is not an official Mazda number.  The rotary
              engine gets 238 hp out of just 1.3 liters in the 6 speed manual
              version.
              \_ Horsepower is like the Megahertz for cars. More important
                 is how wide the engine's torque band is and how much power
                 is produce throughout that range. As I understand, the RX-8
                 rotary engine doesn't kick in until some very high RPM.
                 \_ I heard this exact thing when I was flipping channels
                    and saw a review of the RX-8 on the speed channel
              \_ Well I knew rotaries have great power/displacement, but as I
                 understand it they're usually pretty inefficient because they
                 have a low compression ratio.
                 \_ Yeah, could be.  Apparently you need to rev it really high
                    to get good accelleration, like 4500rpm at least.  It
                    redlines at 8500.  I want to test drive it though!  There
                    aren't many cars in that class anymore due to the disease
                    of gigantor-ism that seems to have infected the car market,
                    and I want to check them all out.
                    \_ I drove the AT and it was pretty pathetic. I did notice
                       that the engine was pretty weak until you reved it up
                       and even then it was still weak. I'm sure the MT would
                       be much better but I was less than impressed with the
                       overall feel of the car (aside from engine power).
                       \_ What about the Acura RSX-S?  Basically an Integra
                          reborn, right?
                          \_ Well, I did write something until someone
                             deleted it and other motd postings. Anyway,
                             RSX-X is just like a glorified civic. It's
                             cheap on the inside and their clutch is very
                             difficult to play with. I considered the RSX-S
                             until I test drove one and walked out very
                             unimpressed. If you have nothing better to
                             do one weekend, it wouldn't hurt to test drive.
                          \_ FWD civic. Ok haha but seriously FWD sporty cars
                             are a bit lame.
                    \_ Plus you're revving your wankel...
           \_ A 1.3L rotary is comparable in displacement to a 2.6L
              4-stroke.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Recreation/Humor] UID:12251 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto 66%like:11811
2/13    http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz
        \_ Posted to motd for the 3rd time in as many months
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:12252 Activity:nil
2/13    Does perl have a "diff" facility? I have something that requires a
        lot of diff but file I/O using unix diff would be too slow. Thanks.
        \_ Text::Diff?  Really.  You could search cpan for this sort of thing.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Science/Battery] UID:12256 Activity:kinda low
2/13    Any recommendations on which brand of NiMH chargers/batteries are the
        best value (in terms of having both reasonable performance and price)?
        I've got the AA and AAA sizes in mind. Thanks.
        \_ Someone asked this recently and I think PowerEx was reccomended.
        \_ Yawn, hasn't been updated for half a year at least
           http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:12257 Activity:nil
2/13    Anyone ever get dstumbler working with a Cisco card on FreeBSD? -John
        \_ Yes.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:12258 Activity:nil
2/13    How many job listings have you seen which asks for people
        from top schools to apply?
        \_ Lots because is usually good if peoples from top school has
           good command of Engrihs language.  -John
           \_ op finds this funny.
        \_ Almost none.  You ever worked with/for the kind of people who
           insist on this?  100% assholes.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Computer/Networking] UID:12259 Activity:nil
2/13    In NT or XP, is there a way to display the IP address of a remote
        machine when the remote machine is pinging my machine?  Thanks.
        \_ netstat?
              \- netstat is ridiculous for this. hammer. nail. bad. wrong.
                 i believe tcpdump runs on msftware:
                 tcpdump -i <if> 'icmp[0] = 8 or icmp[0] = 0'
                 --mr. tcpdump
                 \_ Or ethereal
           \_ I think the ping connection is too short-lived for netstat to
              catch.  Anyway, what I'm trying to do is to have a way to find
              out the IP address of the remote XP machine after it changes due
              to rebooting.  It always takes my local machine a long time to
              realize the new IP address.  So I was thinking that I can add
              a batch file to the Startup menu on the remote machine to ping
              the local machine.  Then I could watch for the ping request and
              find its IP address.  Is there another way to do what I want?  Is
              there a way to tell my local NT/XP machine to clear its cached
              hostname->IP mapping and search for the new IP again?  Thanks in
              advance.
              \- do you know what arp/rarp is? what you are doing sounds weird
                 and i'm not exactly sure what the point of it all is but i
                 answered your first Q and you might look at arp if apropriate.
                 i dont know anything about msftware.
              \_ windows has the 'arp' command which the person above is
                 talking about.  it has an option to clear the whole cache or
                 delete individual entries.  are you using wins and pdc/bdc?
        \_ To the OP, if you want help, please tell us what you're trying to
           do.  Don't just ask how to do some lower level task, because you
           may be barking up the wrong tree.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:12260 Activity:nil
2/13    Where can I get c macro specifications? What keywords to look in
        google?
        \_ You might also want to find a good book on the specification of
           English, so you don't have to look like an ignorant tool asking
           a simple C question.
        \_ what do you want to know?  There's the C language spec that you
           can buy from ANSI.  You can ask on the comp.lang.c FAQ.  You can
           buy K&R.  Or you can see:
           http://www.lns.cornell.edu/public/COMP/info/egcs/cpp/cpp_toc.html
           \_ you can also get a cheap copy of the standard by buying the now
              out-of-print book "annotated c standard" or something like that,
              by herbert schildt. just read the left pages and ignore all the
              crap he spews on the right pages. how you find used copies of
              books is up to you.
2003/8/29 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:29509 Activity:low
8/29    Would you please show me how do I specify the key in the unix command
        des?  The man page of des does not describe the format of the key.
        And I cannot search from google using "des -k" where the - is ignored
        in the search.
        \_ des is a unix command? or do you mean crypt...
2003/8/29 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan] UID:29510 Activity:high
8/29    Where there are US troops, there is prostitution.  Are there any
        \_ how about take out the "US" in there.
        \_ how about take out the "US" in there.  I mean seriously,
           my dad was stationed next to Pakistani troops for while,
           they went out whoring and drinking as much as the next guy.
           goddamit i got trolled!  you win.
        reliable media reports on the prostitution situation in Iraq?
          \_ how about you learn how to format your posts?
        \_Don't you know?  Only US troops do bad things.
        \_ Just think, lots of men, lots of hormones, and no gf/wife. It's
           just a norm in the military. On a side note, the Japs took care
           of this problem by providing Comfort Women-- legalizing
           prostitution in military barracks. Goals: increase troop
           morale, increase enrollment (hey if you're young and still
           virgin here is your chance to get laid), and decrease $$$
           flowing out of the military. It's a brilliant plan.
           \_ the concept may have been right, but the implementation
              was sexual slavery, rape, murder, etc. lots of hits on
              comfort women including this one:
              http://online.sfsu.edu/~soh/comfortwomen.html
        \_ I don't think there is very much prostitution in Iraq. There
           is quite a bit of fraternization though.
2003/8/29 [Computer/SW/Virus, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:29511 Activity:kinda low
8/28    just got an email from admin@csua.berkeley.edu from oxooihui
        saying my account was going to expire, but there is no
        user oxooihui or admin@csua.berkeley.edu. is this legit?
        \_ hmm. had virus with attached zip file
           \_ it's self fulfilling.  run that on your windows box and it'll
              expire your account.
        \_ so you're that guy i've seen walking around with his head up his ass!
           \_ i've always wondered how one puts one's head up one's ass. i can
              barely visualize it.
              \_ i'm sorry you lack visualization skills. how can i help?
                 sorry, won't do *that*.
              \_ don't know about that one, but back in 10th grade (or its
                 equivalent), a classmate of mine did try to demonstrate
                 (in the classroom) how he can suck his own penis.  he failed,
                 but claimed that with a hard on, it would work.
                 \_ my friend once sent me a video of some french guy doing
                    just that. there was that 1-2 second span where it took
                    me to realize what i was seeing before i closed it. by that
                    time, it was permanently etched in my mind.
2003/8/29 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:29512 Activity:high
8/28    I thought this was funny enough to repost and non-partisan so you
        can all laugh without feeling guilty.
        "The White House released a videotape of President Bush meeting with
        his cabinet, and today Iraqi officials say they believe the tape is
        authentic."  -- Jay Leno
        \_ Leno > Letterman.
           \_ And O'Brien rules them all.
              \_ Jon Stewart p0wns them all.
        \_ pretty good.
2003/8/29 [Uncategorized] UID:29513 Activity:nil
8/28    Does DMA have any connection with donotcall.gov? Basically DMA
        asks for you mailing address and phone to tell others not to send
        you junk mail and telemarketers, but telemarketers look at both
        the DMA list and the donotcall list? Also how can I trust the
        list will not be stolen and be used by other telemarketers?
        \_ telemarketers are slime and won't follow the law anyway.
2003/8/29 [Uncategorized] UID:29514 Activity:high
8/29    13 out of 19 presidents have been Frat Boys. Whats up with that?
        \_ 19?
        \_ crack or alcohol?
        \_ Yes, it's true.  13 out of the 19 gay presidents have been
           Frat Boys.
2003/8/29 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:29515 Activity:nil
8/29    French Propose Their World Order
        "Using force is often tempting," he said, but "can only
        be justified if collective security or urgent humanitarian
        needs require it." Force must be "a last resort," and
        "only when the international community, through
        the Security Council, decides."
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972919/posts
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Uncategorized] UID:29516 Activity:high
2/13    Quebec people are a race now.
        http://www.reuters.com/locales/newsArticle.jsp?storyID=4357580
        \_ No they're not, they're just a subspecies of Frenchus Smellus.
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Uncategorized] UID:29517 Activity:nil
2/13    I guess all those Flinstone Cartoons were right after all...
        http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/02/12/coolsc.thickskulls/index.html
2003/8/29-2004/2/14 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:29518 Activity:high
2/13    Is there a flush lever on those Green French toilet contraptions?
        \_ No, because the French think their shit doesn't stink.
           \_ RACIST!
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