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2003/8/11 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:29301 Activity:nil
8/10    John Ashcroft is Evil!  Free Mike Hawash!... oh. Darn.
        <DEAD>www.freemikehawash.org<DEAD>
2003/8/11 [Uncategorized] UID:29302 Activity:nil
8/10    How many syllabels are in the word "poem"?  I tried google, but
        my search-fu was lacking.  Thanks.
        \_ 1.5
        \_ http://dictionary.com, yeesh.  Look up "syllable" too.
2003/8/11-12 [Science/Space] UID:29303 Activity:high
8/10    My freezer tends to collect a lot of icing around it and it gets
        smaller and smaller every month till I can't use it anymore. What's
        the best way to get rid of the icing? BTW it doesn't have a defrost
        switch like the ones you see on newer freezers. Thanks.
        \_ Get a fridge made after the 80s.
        \_ It's your landlord's freezer, right?  Hammer and chisel!  When
           it breaks, he'll buy you a new modern fridge.
        \_ You've got it set too cold.
        \_ Remove all food and unplug fridge.  Boil water in pots.  Place pots
           of boiling water in freezer.  Close freezer door.  Wait 10 minutes.
           Open freezer door.  Break off ice in chunks.  Reboil water and
           repeat.  Now you won't have to wait whole day to defrost.
        \_ has anyone tried running some voltage through the freezer?
2003/8/11-12 [Computer/SW/Database, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:29304 Activity:very high
8/10    Whoever told me that Gallery is backed by a database, I just found
        out that it is a lie.  God damn, you guys use Gallery and doesn't
        even know rather it has a database behind it or not?
        \_ "don't", not "doesn't". "you guys" is third person plural, not
            singular. Stop sounding like a FOB.
            \_ You rock!  --motd grammarian #1 Fan
                            \_ should it be "motd grammarian's #1 Fan"
                               -- grammatical psuedo-fan
                               \_ no.  it's a title where "motd" is modifying
                                  "grammarian", thus "motd grammarian" which
                                  then modifies "#1 Fan".
                                  \_ If it's a title, and you're not e.e.
                                     cummings, you should capitalize each
                                     word.  (If you are e.e. cummings, I'd
                                     love to know your ISP.)
                                     \_ yous guys should go fuck yourselves.
                                        \_ I got this helpful email about
                                           penile enlargement and now I can
                                           fuck myself!
                                     \_ It's the motd.  cAPs arE opTIoNal
                                        \_ Not if you're going to pretend
                                           to be the MOTD Grammarian #1 Fan
                                           \_ I'm just a fan.  I like to watch
                                              boxing, that doesn't mean I'm any
                                              good at it.
            \_ In addition "you guys" isn't grammatically correct either,
               but I let it slide, (maybe he wanted to sound like a NJ
               gangster). Apparently OP doesn't understand the difference
               between a pronoun and a possessive adjective.
               \_ NJ gangsta would say "youse guys"
                  \_ Youz bin wotchin too mutch uh dah teli!
               \_ What about "... even know rather it has ..."?  I like it.
2003/8/11-12 [Politics/Domestic] UID:29305 Activity:high
8/10    Most recent poll: 54% in favor of dumping Davis, 35% opposed.  Not a
        whole lot of voter passion for saving his ass.
        \_ And in a month, when people come to their senses...
        \_ 35% seems high to me. I guess there's a silent minority here.
           \_ 35% means the support is very weak and dispassionate and thus
              unlikely to bother defending anything on an aggressive forum
              like the motd because they just don't care that much.
        \_ And this from today's news but they don't say when the poll was
           taken so you get what you pay for: 64 percent said Davis should be
           removed from office, including 40 percent of Democrats.
        \_ Great.  This just means that the election is Arnold's to lose.
2003/8/11-12 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:29306 Activity:very high
8/10    Did anyone know Georgy Russell (CS c/o '99)? He's running for governor.
        \_ you are aware that Georgy's a she, right?
           \_ Does it matter?  -!op
              \_ well, if the op is looking for people who know her, yes, it
                 does.
                 \_ Not really.  The people who know her would know she's a
                    she, would they not?
        \_ So's Gary Coleman, big deal, what's your point.
           \_ Questions don't have points, they are inquiries... if someone
              was a classmate of his, they might say "Ya, the dude was a big
              dork, I couldn't stand him." or "he was always stepping outside
              of soda to smoke doobies."
              \_ Or they could be asking a question to call attention to
                 something.  You might also want to look up "rhetorical
                 question".  I deserve a fucking medal for being so polite to
                 you, this being the motd and all....
                 question".
              \_ I'm with ya, friend!  --motd grammarian #1 Fan
        \_ If he wins will he accept millions every year from the Computer
           Scientists Union to keep pushing their part of the budget up while
           everything else goes down?
           doing the heroine look. I bumped into her at a bar/club in SF (near
        \_ fyi: http://www.georgyforgov.com
           \_ What's the "heroine look"?
           \_ I read it last week.  She isn't quite joking, yet she isn't
              serious either.  What's she trying to do with the website?
        \_ Oh shit, I know who she is. I took several classes with her. I
           remember her name as Georgina. She was kind of cute, then started
           doing the heroin look. I bumped into her at a bar/club in SF (near
           the baseball stadium) once. She was also my reader for CS162.
           \_ "I think I'll look like a heroin addict today." fuck off.
           \_ I'll vote for her if she stops using pine.
           \_ What's the "heroin look"?
              \_ Too thin.  Underfed looking.  Pale.  Gaunt.  Boney.  Sickly.
                 \_ So you knew her too?
                    \_ nope.  I've seen the type.  It's common among young
                       women with self worth issues.
           \_ [ motdspellingd was here ]
        \_ She's cute! And EECS? Got my vote!
           \_ Your vote went easy.  There's nothing on her site about bjs for
              eecs votes.
        \_ From her website: 630r6y == G0\/3R|\|0R. no joke.
           \_ I hope she didn't dump $3500 on this.  The state will just
              spend it on something stupid.
              \_ she's raising money by selling underwear on ebay.
                 \_ new or used?
        \_ Hell, anyone who puts big, ugly Simpsons graphics in her .plan
           can't be all bad.
           \_ And she logs in to soda while she's at work-- c'mon, folks,
              she's _got_ to be our candidate.
              \_ So does everyone else here.
                 \_ ...and none of the rest of you are running for gov.
                    Ergo, she really represents us.
                    \_ Dear god man, did you read her platform?  She is far
                       too liberal.
                       \_ "Ergo" probably is, too.  Remember we're not all
                          60 hour/week alumni.  Some people on the motd are
                          students who haven't yet reached political maturity.
                          Things like legal pot seem important to them.
                    \_ There's almost no one on here that could represent "us".
                       Why?  Because there is no "us".  Maybe you've noticed a
                       few times here and there where there were some minor
                       political disagreements on the motd?  In what way does
                       she represent "us"?  Ergo, et al, etcetera, cum laude.
                       \_ "Ergo" is the only word I remember from that dumb
                          Architect monologue.
        \_ Anyone at Veritas know her?
2003/8/11-14 [Uncategorized] UID:29307 Activity:nil
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2003/8/11-12 [Reference/BayArea] UID:29308 Activity:nil
8/11    Flash Mobs:
        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2003/08/11/DD115584.DTL
2003/8/11-12 [ERROR, uid:29309, category id '31298#3' has no name! , ] UID:29309 Activity:nil
8/10    God, now even fucking slashdot has gotten into the governor's race.
        And that's "fucking" modifying "slashdot", not "fucking" as an action
        one would commit upon "slashdot".  They say, "Slashdot might as well
        get in on the media frenzy and interview a candidate, and Georgy is
        the obvious choice".
2003/8/11-12 [Uncategorized] UID:29310 Activity:nil
8/10    Cos-play image of the day: (relatively work safe)
        http://csua.org/u/3wf
        \- i was wondering what "relatively" work safe meant. now i know.
        \_ I don't really... get it.  And he seems to be wearing my shoes.
2003/8/11-12 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:29311 Activity:high
8/11    So I downloaded a ISO disk (Redhat). What do I do with it?
        \_ Burn it to a CD. Any cd-burning software should have an option
           to write an ISO image to a blank CD.
                \_ turns out I need to get WinISO, that converts from
                   BIN to ISO. But WinISO costs $$$ :(
                   \_ WTF? Just burn them.
                      Download trial version of Ahead Nero. That definitely
                      burns ISOs
                   \_ There's a zillion freeware ISO burners and converters.
                      It's a standard format.  obgoogle, jeeze.
        \_ Don't forgot to download the second and third ISOs.
           \_ no need to burn those though as you can make a boot floopy
              off the first cd and point the install to where the iso's are
              on your hard drive.
2003/8/11-12 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:29312 Activity:high
8/11    Mac OS X users:  is there such thing as an "emulation mode" in OS X?
        90% of the apps I use have Mac OS X versions.  But what's keeping me
        from pulling the trigger and buying an PowerBook is that 10%.  I have
        some legacy windows app that doesn't have OS X version.  I'm wondering
        if there is emulation software and how reliable is it?  Thanks.
        \_ are you talking MS Windows or os9?  There are both.  The
           windows emulator costs money and supposedly runs kinda slowly on
           in the 12 inch powerbook because the lack of l3 cache, but works
           pretty damn good.
        \_ VirtualPC is what you want.
           \_ I just went through the connectix virtual pc docs.  And all
              I can say is HOT DAMN!  No wonder microsoft bought the rights
              to their software.  If this really works, I'll be buying a 17"
              powerbook soon and running virtual PC to keep all my old stuff
              also running.
        \_ out of curiosity what apps do you need that osX doesn't have?
           \_ A lot of "viewer" programs out there are all windows only.
              A couple that i use almost daily are efax viewer and winfax
              viewer.
                \_ aren't fax files a generic format?  I'd be amazed if there
                   wasn't a mac app to do the same thing.
                   \_ fax files are almost certainly TIFF, which the Mac
                      should have no problems with.
        \_ Join Us!  Join The Dark Side!  Enter The Reality Distortion Field!
        \_ We just got a G4 few weeks ago for one of our office personnel, and
           the machine came with both OS X and OS 9 installed, with OS 9
           running in emulation mode.  But that might not be the case for a
           PowerBook.  Doesn't hurt to check.
           \_ yes, osx has an emulate os9 mode.
2003/8/11-12 [Computer, Computer/SW] UID:29313 Activity:moderate
8/11    Just curious: those of you who were at UCB pre-crash and are still
        there now: are CS classes still incredibly impacted like they were
        during the boom or is it now possible to get a seat without shedding
        blood?
        \_ http://www.iht.com/articles/97217.html
           \_ thanks.  Already reforwarded to management.
          \_ thank goodness! People should study computer science for the
             sake of having passions for science, not money. This is good
             news for all of us.                -grad student
             \_ for me, the lesser being, studying computer science is just
                for the curiosity and the fun of it.
             \_ what's wrong with studying something for the money? It's not
                like computer science is some holier-than-thou field off-limits
                to anyone except geeks that slobber all over themselves and
                wear funky plastic pocket protecters and smell bad in the labs
                and talk about star trek and babylon 5 endlessly.
2003/8/11-12 [Politics/Domestic/California, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:29314 Activity:very high
8/11    Come on Georgy - give us your Motd Campaign Speech
        \_ No, please don't.  You should save your energy for the big race!
        \_ /home/sequent/georgy/.hushlogin - no motd love from georgy
           \_ I do that too but I'm active.  Who wants the 30+ page motd to
              scroll by on every login?
        \_ I don't know, I may vote for her, but for you diehard CSUA'ers,
           doesn't this look like M$ Windows on a Dell?!?:
                http://www.georgyforgov.com/images/gpic1.jpg
           \_ Notice the _Running Linux_ book?
                \_ you mean the Unix book, she even knows linux is dead
                   \_ LINUX IS DYING!
                      \_ More and more each day.  The courts take even
                         longer to decide things than the Senate.  We must
                         do something quickly to stop SCO.
                         \_ D00de!  L3tz hax0r there s3rv3rz!11  You're not
                            going to do a god damned thing about it and neither
                            is any other unwashed linux geek.  The courts will
                            continue to grind away.  Companies will continue to
                            install and develop on linux.  Life will go on.  It
                            is unfortunate that SCO doesn't stand a chance of
                            putting linux into a grave in corporate America
                            because there are certainly better OS's for the
                            enterprise environment which are freer and more
                            stable without the unwashed hype.
                            \_ You just got trolled by a TPM quote.
                               Do you feel dirty?
                               \_ TPM?  I don't even know who TPM is so a TPM
                                  quote means nothing to me.  No, I don't.  I
                                  deal with stupid people everyday so yet
                                  another stupid person, quote or not, doesn't
                                  bother me at all.
                                  \_ "Our people are dying, Senator!"
                                     \_ Uh huh.
                                        \_ lol!
2003/8/11-12 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:29315 Activity:kinda low
8/11    http://www.craigslist.org/eby/eng/14754592.html
        They claim there's a "Secret password" encoded in there but it
        looks like every other "we don't have enough money" job posting
        to me.  I'd never apply for a job like this but I'd like to know
        if there really is a "secret password" in there.
        \_ Read down the first letters of the first five paragraphs. I want 30%
           of your first month's salary.
           \_ bingo
           \_ Kinda sad actually. I thought it would be harder to find.
           \_ BSPTEFEEA? WTF does that mean???
              \_ It means "you will continue to draw unemployment"
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