7/25    Dow back to 10,000 by Fall.
        \_ Please sign your name.

7/25    http://www.maxtronic.com/products/enterprise.html for that raid array
        I was talking about.

7/25    Any blackberry users?  Opinions?
        \_ blackberries are ok, but I much prefer salmon berries.
        \_ People in government use the blackberry. They like it.
        \_ My dad's had one for years, he loves it, but he's also one
           of those people who even work on ski slopes. He just got one for
           my mom, and she (surprisingly) likes hers as well, even though
           she's a technophobe. -chialea
        \_ the correct term these days is "berries of color"
                \_ Colored berries?

7/25    Why do 5 feet women want 6 foot men?  I don't get it.
        \_ There's this asian-caucasian couple I see a lot at the gym. She's
           like 4'10" and he's 5'11"-ish. They're always practicing their
           ballroom dancing in the middle of the machines area. Bizarre sight
           on quite a few levels.
           \_ Yellow fever?
           \_ Creepy. Sounds like my cousin and her husband.
        \_ The women want their babies to be tall.
        \_ The women wants to feel their long dick.
           \_ I am a short guy with a big dick. How can I communicate this
              to women that I want to have sex with without seeming crude?
              \_ stop wearing pants?
        \_ All women want taller men.  It's a Darwin thing and it makes
           a lot of sense.
           \_ to the extreme of a foot difference?
              \_ It has nothing to do with her height.  It has to do with his.
                 You think ugly guys have a preference for ugly women?  No,
                 they all prefer attractive women no matter what they look like
                 themselves.  No different for women.
                 \_ what, you don't think these guys are pedophiles and/or
                    insecure so they want a small unintimidating girlfriend?
                    \_ not at all.  short != looks 8 y/old.  short != timid.
           \_ Plenty of women prefer shorter guys. Most prefer tall guys,
              this is true, but don't drag Darwin into this. Many societal
              standards of beauty have nothing to do with survival.
              \_ Plenty?  Maybe you're hanging out with the 6'6" amazons or
                 something but "willing to date" is not the same as "prefer".
                 Name a society where being short is a positive beauty trait
                 for a man.  I'm sorry some of the short guys here don't get
                 laid and think women are evil for it but that's just the way
                 things are.
                 \_ being bitter about it, yeah real attractive
                 \_ Jews - David shorty kicks Goliath arse.
                           Jacob shorty toys with his brother Esau.
                           Big strong tall Samson stupidly falling
                           for Delilah's trap.
                    Compare the bible versus classical greek literature.
                    The bible never mentions tall as a positive
                    description, whereas greek literature is full of
                    such references, not only in descriptions of men
                    but also of women.  Instead the bible likes to
                    talk about the weak becoming strong, the foolish
                    becoming wise, and shorty Zacchaeus receiving
                    Jesus.
                    \_ The bible is a morality play, not a cultural reference
                       guide.  Go ask some real Jews if being short is a plus
                       or a minus.  They'll give you the same answer as
                       everyone else.  Tall is good.  Short is bad.  Stop
                       trying to make Jews into some sort of freaks.  It's bad
                       enough with the haters and ignorance already.  -Jew
                       \_ You are black sheep Jew.  Be a good Jew.
                       \_ Just admit it.  The bible is the core of Jewish
                          culture.  You can't escape it.  And there is nothing
                          wrong in being different, or "freaks", if you prefer.
              \_ In personals ads the number one request - even more common
                 than a fat checkbook, a full head of hair, sexual prowess,
                 or a great personality - is that the guy must be taller
                 than the woman, and preferably 6' or over. It's rare to find
                 women that like shorter guys.
                 \_ That's only because it's not PC to ask for the other
                    things you mentioned.
                       \_ Ducking?  Nah, it's just not as big a deal as
                          you make it out to be.
                    \_ That never stopped anyone from asking for it.  Also,
                       you're ducking (poorly I might add).  They never request
                       short.  No woman wants a short guy.
                       \_ It's just not as big a deal as you make it out to be.

7/26    Throbbing Gristle in reunion show shocker!!!
        http://www.mute.com/tg
        \_ throbbing gristle in my pants.
           \_ more like diminutive whistle
        \_ Hey! Genesis P Orridge and Cosey Fanni Tutti in da house!

7/25    John's (puerile) link of the day
        http://csua.org/u/3qa

7/26    When I look at car magazines I often see 0-60 numbers that are far
        shorter than 30-70 numbers. For example, the Infinity G35 can go
        from 0-60 in 6.0s but 30-70 in 25.0s. Wouldn't it make sense for
        a car to be able to go from 30-70 in less time than 0-60?
        \_ 25s is way too slow for 30-70, check your numbers.
        \_ your numbers are way off. 30-70 < 0-60 + 60-70. 60-70 isn't going
           to take 19s in any car that can go 70...
           \_ I thought it was a magazine typo but in the same article it
              posts numbers for the BMW330. Word for word it says "30-70
              mph passing: 14.2 sec" which is still much greater than its
              0-60 time.
              \_ I suspect 0-60 is measured driven hard and 30-70 is something
                 odd like always in the highest gear.
                 \_ actually it looks like he is looking at 1/4 mile times
                    and thinks he is looking at 30-70 times
                    \_ No, because above that it says "1/4-mile: 14.6 sec @
                       98 mph". If you don't believe me, it's the Nov 2002
                       Automobile magazine on the bottom of page 55.
        \_ i'm surprised the bike fanatic hasn't responded. (earth to tom)
           \_ he's secretly a car lover.  i've seen him at races (the real
              ones) and also spotted him in a rice rocket at a midnight drag
              show in oakland once, too.  some hot little asian thing driving.
              i think he's the guy who posted the one liner, "25s is way too
              slow for 30-70, check your numbers"
                \_ uh, I'm talking about tom holub, not tom asian.
        \_ http://csua.org/u/3ql
           0-70 in <8s.
        \_ Are they using the last gear for 30-70 test?  That's something I've
           seen done.  Numbers sound reasonable in that case.