6/27 Landmark Studies Reveal Virtually All Of California's Population
Explosion Due To Immigration
http://www.capsweb.org/newsroom/press_releases/landmark_studies.html
Could it be that this is somehow related to the 30$ + billion
deficit?
\_ most states are having budget crisis now. compare to states
without immigration in large numbers or your hated democratic
governer. Most states had lots of money a few years ago
when the economy was doing well. They spent rather than saved
because that's what 99% of all politicians do, and now we all
pay the price. I live in a state with a fiscally conservative
republican govorner and no population growth for the last 10 years,
and we're totally fucked right now(well, ok, not as fucked as CA.)
\_ Maybe that "not as fucked as CA" part is the difference between
having an (R) vs a (D) in office.
\_ I'm sure there are alot of reasons, but mainly our bubble
wasn't as big a few years ago, so it didn't pop as hard.
Besides, this is just a small state (CT). BTW, Rowland is
currently under investigation for curruption.
\_ Or could it be the cause of our ever growing economy?
More people spend more money
\_ And pay more taxes.
\_ Ah, the inevitable "blame it on the immigrants" troll. Didn't
we get enough of this with Wilson?
\_ How is this a troll? I don't agree with the person, but it
seems like a reasonable attempt to discuss the issues.
\_ now this one is a better troll.
\_ Uh oh, someone said something you don't agree with! It
must be a troll! How dare anyone have an opinion or
espouse a political philosophy different from yours?
Diversity in opinion and thought is ok as long as every
one believes what you believe, eh?
\_ Uh, Wilson was against *ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS* not immigrants
in general. Illegal immigration was and still is a problem.
\_ No, that's due to Davis spending billions that we didn't have on
energy futures.
\_ And various give aways to special interests on the left such as
the prison guard unions and big acre farmers.
\_ I knew it! Those big landowners are all secretly communists,
right? Have you completely lost your mind? Prison guards
are another group of well known anarchists and socialists.
\_ Nice dodge but no cigar. Maybe next time you'll do better
at completely ducking the point, eh?
\_ Y'all rekon them furiners ain't payin' 'nof taxes compare to us
pau native folk?
\_ Because everyone to your right on the political spectrum is
obviously a backwoods southern hick stereotype. If you can't
debate them, insult and smear them. Very Clintonesque of you.
Hillary would be proud.
\_ Its a fricking joke. Do I have to add j/k after
my jokes so that people like you won't overreact?
(BTW, Buchanan-ites are probably the only people
further right on the political spectrum than me)
\_ Fuck you.
\_ You're on the motd; yes you do.
\_ well, it's better than deleting the thread. no matter how
annoying you find someones blather, you should admit that
they are above the untouchable scum mother**ckers we call
"motd censors." Besides, Clinton *was* a southern hick
stereotype. Can you name one instance in Bill Clinton's
carreer when he used stereotyping smear tactics? I just
saw him in an inteview saying that he thought trent lott
had been the victim of an unfair smear campaign. I'm pretty
sure you'll never hear bush say that about a democrat.
\_ Read just about any Hillary speech. Start with the VRWC
stuff and work your way forward.
\_ And *how* was this not a troll again?
\_ And again *how* is it possible for anyone who has different
political opinions from yours to *not* be a troll? I think
you're a new form of a troll. You're a meta-troll. You troll
about trolling.
\_ The older you get, the more you will realize idiots are ruining
our country for ours as well as future generations. -ax
\_ Yes. Who did you vote for the last several elections? Very few
of the candidates I voted for made it. And do you also vote in
the midterm elections? If you don't vote you don't count.
\_ The Federalists said the same thing about Jefferson. The
Confederates said the same thing about the Republicans.
\_ http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=5271
The National Research Council found that in California, ... each
native household is paying about $1,178 a year in state and local
taxes to cover the gap between the services used by immigrant
households and their tax receipts.
\_ yeah, give Texas and the southern states back so that the native
north american people don't have to be called illegal immigrants,
and whose quality of life has eroded steadily since 1492.
\_ You know nothing about native americans or how they lived.
\_ What the illegal immigrant haters always forget is that those tax
dollars are more than offset by the incredibly cheap prices we
pay for fruits, vegetables and grains harvested by the ultra
cheap labor that illegal immigration makes possible. No American
citizen is willing to work for $5000 to $7000 dollars a year, yet
in order for you to pay the price that you want at the grocery
store, someone must do it. The next time you eat a strawberry,
think about the life of the person that picked it. Have you ever
picked strawberries for any length of time? Do you know how
backbreaking it can be? Now think about doing that for 12 hour
days, three months at a stretch, with no healthcare and no bathroom
breaks.
\_ Kick them all out and patrol the border properly and we'll have
safer streets, fewer prisons, and less disease. The tax savings
will more than make up for what might be a few pennies saved on
a basket of strawberries picked by criminals.
\_ next time you eat a strawberry, consider that some poor
illegal immigrant peed on it because he couldn't have a
bathroom break |