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| 2003/5/26 [Recreation/Shopping] UID:28551 Activity:very high |
5/25 Hi I'm looking for a job and I want to look really old and mature
so that I'll have a better chance of getting hired. What are some
ways to look more mature? -graduating senior desperately looking
for a job and still looks like a HS
student
\_ mail me, my company is still
hiring. - rory
\_ The old and mature guys have trouble getting jobs because they
cost too much. A cheap smart young thing they can abuse is all
the rage right now. Much more important is not coming across as
desperate. I interview here and there and the reek of desperation
is a huge turnoff for any candidate. Be yourself, don't make shit
up, stay calm, *THINK* about the questions. I've asked several
people to write a simple script that at one point requires they
loop from 1 to 50. Most people write a 0-49 loop. *THINK*.
\_ people don't have budgets to train newbies anymore, "old and
mature" ppl are being hired over new people because of this.
check how many ads nowadays are for senior eng's as compared
to entry-level.
\_ Training? Since when did anyone get trained? The job ads
for senior guys are mostly crap. Most job ads today are crap.
This kid isn't applying to those anyway. He's applying to
jobs that are clearly non-senior so what you're saying doesn't
apply to his case. He still needs to write the 1-50 loop,
not the 0-49 loop which these so-called senior guys kept
writing for me.
\_ Assuming this isn't a troll; ever heard of the saying "Clothes make
a man"? Dress maturely; NOT suit & tie if you're applying for
technical post but a nice button-up shirt (long sleeves if it
isn't too hot; or polo shirt and slacks). NO JEANS. Get nice black
shoes (not the cheap kind, please); if you lack facial hair, grow
some. Wear cologne, but not too much. That's a start.
Then start talking like a mature person and stop using immature
words like 'Like...', 'Duh', 'Dude', etc. Start watching CNBC and
see how those guys in the corporate world talks. Pay attention to
issues and the haps in your community.
\_ why not suit&tie for a tech job? people do that all the
time (e.g. ever been to the Career Center?)
\_ I've interviewed nearly a hundred engineers and nothing
says newbie quite like a suit & tie left over from
your highschool prom.
\_ You don't want to get this interviewer.
\_ Or, you could be yourself. That'd be mature.
\_ Set yourself a reasonable budget for clothes. Go to a good men's
clothing store (I like Brooks Brothers--do not even bother with
Macy's or Nordstrom or the likes.) Say 'here's my budget, I don't
\- i like brooks brothers too [for a non-white person] but what
is wrong with macys/bloomingdale/n'strom ? assuming this Q is
\_ The problem is that the sales clerks are far less trained
than at the specialty men's clothiers (Barney's, BB, etc.)
They earn less, so they're more commission-driven. Mind
that this is a generalization. Also, I've often found
them incapable of offering creative suggestions, and
unwilling to send me somewhere else if they haven't got
something I'm looking for. -John
\- ok fair enough, although usually i am not
asking too much of the sales staff.
barney's is insanely expensive. dont the
staff there make like +$150k? --psb
\_ Barney's is very expensive, but less so
than most comparable European stuff. And
their clothes are generally very durable
and classic. But yeah, the price is why
I like BB (plus last time I was in Barney's
the staff were snooty, which I won't ever
put up with.) And if you spend above
a certain amount of money (I include
Macy's/Nordstrom prices in this) you should
get expert advice. If you don't want/get
it, find a good tailor and get your suits
mail order. Much cheaper. -John
in earnest [which i sort of doubt given the phrase "old and
mature" ... or at least that makes me question OPs ability
to pull this off] i think you would do best dressing reasonable
and spending some more time thinking about/researching the
company. if i were interviewing you and asked at some point
"do you have any Qs for me" and you said something reasonable
that would count more than how well you accessorize. dressing
up shows that you are serious ... i think for tech jobs you
either are trying or not. i dont think people look too critically
at whether you are wearing $100 "nice shoes" or Bruno Maglis.
i dont do a lot of interviews what the thing that probably
annoys me most frequently is when people waste my time. this
means "don be late" and "dont babble" or make things up. --psb
know much about clothes, I need to look good for an interview' and
maybe the kind of look you'd like. The nice uncle salesman
will help you. Never use the phrase 'um'. Don't fidget. Don't
talk too much--never interrupt, and think before you speak. Shave.
Look the interviewer in the eye at all times. And don't believe
anything you read in the motd. -John
\_ When I hire fresh grads I'm more interested in the fact that they
have taken the time to put together a decent looking resume and
that they can tell me what courses and projects they have worked
on rather than how they look or what they are wearing. Its okay to
wear a suit to a interview for a coding job, but most people don't.
Just wear a clean business shirt and slacks (even something like
dockers will do), make sure to shave, comb your hair and remove
any body piercings.
If you want to make a good impression find out something about
the project the group you are interviewing with is working on
and ask one or two intelligent questions about that.
\_ when in doubt, wear a suit/tie. even better, call the company
and talk to hr or the receptionist to see what they prefer.
\_ I always ask, they always give some vague bullshit reply.
I've never once been told anything more than "we're a really
casual place but whatever you're comfortable in". |
| 2003/5/26 [Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:28552 Activity:high |
5/25 Check out this game
http://www.smalltime.com/dictator.html
It's guessed all my characters -- Arnold Jackson (from Different
Strokes), Seven of Nine, Michael Knight, and Ronald Reagan
\- This has gotten better. It got Laurent Kabila. It didnt get
the Roman Emperor Galba. --psb
\_ It got McGyver.
\_ Yo, it's just the "animal game". I copied this out of a book
in BASIC in 1978.
\_ http://www.20q.net is more interesting. General 20 questions game. |
| 2003/5/26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:28553 Activity:high |
5/25 Does anyone think Sharon is really going to stick by his word?
http://www.counterpunch.org/sharon.html
\_ Let say, give him benefit of the doubt, he is going to. But
how much control does he really has over this matter? It's
interesting that Israel, which founded based upon the act of
terror (zionist movement against the British rule at the time),
is plagued by the very same act which the nation is build upon.
Same thing can be said about United States and its racist root.
\_ I learned in elementary that United States fought the
civil war to help African Americans and that Lincoln
is kind to people of all colors. US is anything
but racist because my elementary teacher said so.
\_ Lincon rallied the war effort on the slogan of
"preserve the Union," not "abolish the slavery,"
as there are a lot of people in the North don't necessary
support it. Only after the battle of Gettysburg, when
Northen.
Northen victory is assured, then Lincon brought the issue
of slavery to the nation. Even afer that, Blacks
didn't get any political right until the 1960's.
From the establishment of colonies in the 1400's, until
civil rights movement 30+ years ago, i am sorry, but
racism is part of American culture. America has
made tremedous progress in this issue, but racism
is a such natural part of social DNA that it has great
tendency to going back to its racist past. Cock's
report on Chinese spying, and today's homeland security
\_ Except the Chinese *are* spying.
\_ So are the Israelis.
\_ Yeah, that's why Pollard is still in
jail. What's Israel got to do with
this? So do many other allies. Why
do you go out of your way to mention
Israel? Hate Jews recently?
\_ Err ... this thread started out
with Sharon. Last I checked, he
civil war.
is still a Jew. Why, if anyone
mentions any negative facts
about Israel, she is a Jew hater?
\_ Because the topic had changed
on this subthread to something
unrelated to Israel and as
usual the we-hate-Jews committee
crawled out from under their
rock. It gets pointed out a
lot because the Jew haters do a
lot of crawling around here. Why
do you never mention the 300+
other countries with far worse
records for just about any
negative behaviour? Because you
hate Jews. I understand that it
isn't a concious choice, that
you were raised with it and Jew
hating is not only acceptable
but a good thing in many places
and families but it isn't going
to hit the motd without comment.
targeting Arabs are just couple examples. How to steer
\_ And the terrorists *are* Arabs.
America away from its natural tendency is the challenge
which constantly plaguing the leader of this nation.
\_ There were several proposals to save the union
before the civil war, and all of these deal
almost exclusively with slavery issues. Slavery
and its abolishment is the central issue of the
civil war. - chinese dude
\_ to say US fought civil war, thus, US is not
racist is an gross simplification.
\_ 'racist' is such a tired, overused word. Sorry
to say, but it's such an abused catch-all that
it no longer carries much weight. -John
\_ RACIST! |
| 2003/5/26-27 [Computer/Theory] UID:28554 Activity:nil |
5/25 Dear nice math helper person, I found this from my old CLR book:
Sigma k=0 to n of x^k = (k^(n+1)-1) / (x-1).
Can someone please repost the question I posted yesterday? Thanks...
\_ Almost --- the "k" on the RHS should be an "x".
Hint 3. Figure out how to use this to get a closed
formula for 0*1 + 1*x + 2*x^2 + ... + n*x^n |
| 2003/5/26-27 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:28555 Activity:high |
5/26 I saw _The Matrix Reloaded_ and thought that I "got it". I didn't.
Reading http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/051803matrix.htm
revealed much to me. --darin
\_ what? the guy didn't even know how tank died?
\_ He got it all wrong. Here's how it works:
Architect: Bill Gate$/Tanenbaum
\_ You think Microsoft ever actually created anything?
\_ Other than a large software mess that enslaves
most of the worlds coders/computer users?
Notice how bugs are still being worked out in
Version 6.x.
Morpheus: RMS
\_ RMS? Who's that?
\_ A hacker. See: http://tinyurl.com/cnmd
\_ http://www.stallman.org
\_ random psycho idiot who makes a lot of sense if only he'd
let go of some of his weirder bits. at least he's very
consistent. btw, anyone remember playing xtrek in the
planets cluster on the rms/rms account?
\_ of course. Faster than the web, plus you could get
into sequent before 11:00 PM. -tom
Neo: Linus Torvalds
\_ One is a hot young star, the other a greasy fat hacker who
has no political opinions. I can't buy this one. Sorry.
\_ Have you ever talked to Linus? The guy is pretty
\_ Donald Kunth
opinionated (about everything not just politics).
And his wife kicks some major ass a la Trinity.
Zion: Bitkeeper
Oracle: ESR
\_ So you think ESR is working hard to keep Microsoft alive?
\_ It is debatable whether or not the oracle is
working to keep the matrix alive.
Keymaker: Phil Zimmermann
Merovingian: NAI
Agent Smith: SCO/Redhat
\_ Who is Cornel West in your mapping?
\_ Donald Knuth |
| 2003/5/26 [Reference/Tax] UID:28556 Activity:insanely high |
5/26 Who is in favor of restructuring the tax system so that it penalizes
people who have more than 2 kids? Right now this child tax credit
applies to all your kids. I say, it ought to apply only to the first
two. And if you have more than 2 kids, the credit goes away and you
have to pay MORE tax for every child you have.
\_ Because?
\_ I hate child tax credits period. - single and without kids
\_ That's nice. As a matter of public policy what's wrong with
them?
\_ What's right with them?
\_ It's the status quo. Don't like it? Propose a reason
for change.
\_ obviously, this system is giving tax breaks to people
so the rest of us have to pay more. -differentguy
\_ The entire tax system is built like that. Did you
vote for Steve and his 3x5 tax return? A flat tax
is the only way to not have someone get an "unfair"
break. The fact of the matter is that it is in the
country's best interest to encourage people to have
children. The tax you should be upset about is the
marriage tax penalty which discourages and punishes
people for trying to have a stable family. Stable
family structures are good for the country, so this
tax should go but the child credit should stay.
--married guy, never having kids
\_ Well, the US economy depends on growth, and with an aging
population, who will take care of this aging population? We are
making up for our lack of procreation by increasing immigration.
So tax credit or no we will have more people in the US. To see
the affects of zero-growth population, take a look at Japan.
\_ And Europe.
\_ I said eliminate and increase tax only after you have TWO kids.
How does that lead to zero population growth? -OP
\_ Your changes penalizes ppl for having too many kids. So if
the gov't encourages you to have at most 2 kids (to replace
you and your SO), that is zero population growth.
\_ After reading the above replies, I think the answer to the OP's
question is, "no one with a clue who cares about the country is in
favor of reducing or eliminating the child tax credit".
\_ It's not about eliminating it. The question is how much is
enough. Kind of like welfare. Some is good, too much and
it's bad. Poor immigrants from Mexico have the most number
of kids. Subsidizing that is always good for the country?
Similarly why should I be subsidizing rich people who have
more than enough to take care of their kids? Some well-
directed subsizing is ok, but too much of it, and you are
imposing on my freedom to choose what kind of life I should
have, forcing conformity and too much social control like
boring Singapore.
\_ I'm going to ignore your bizarre comment about SG and freedom.
Kids are kids. It doesn't matter if their parents came from
somewhere else. They're here now. In three generations do
you want those Mexican-parented-now-American kids to have
grand children in jail, selling drugs, and hooking or do you
want them in college, serving in the military, working in
offices, and being good neighbors?
\_ I want them to have less kids unless they can take good
care of their kids themselves (with a little subsidizing
from me, but not too much).
\_ And there you have it. You want to give a child tax
credit but not "too much". Who defines "too much"?
Right now, by right of status quo, the current number
isn't "too much". You also (I assume you're OP) want
to charge a "too many children tax" after some
unspecified number of kids. Who are *you* to decide
how much is too much? Who are *you* to decide that
someone has had too many kids? Once you get into any
tax system beyond a simple flat tax, you *will* be
giving bonuses and slapping penalties on people in a
government controlled effort to force the populace to
conform to your utopian ideal of what everyone should
be doing with their lives. Thanks, but no thanks. I'd
rather keep our current broken system then have you
break it worse in your utopian ideal image.
from me). |
| 2003/5/26 [Health/Disease/General] UID:28557 Activity:nil |
5/26 SARS is from Space: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2931246.stm \_ 'the Sars coronavirus is so unlike other viruses that an extra- terrestrial origin is logical.' Uh, yeah and it just happened to "like" humans. What luck. \_ It's like Babylon 5 where they tailored a virus to humans. Obviously they've been watching I Love Lucy re-runs and recognize our tremendous potential and fear us so this is the alien pre-emptive strike. |
| 2003/5/26-28 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:28558 Activity:high |
5/26 http://www.sirlin.net/Features/RubinsFans2.jpg Totally work safe but might cost a few SANity points. \_ I don't get it. \_ Yeah, what the hell is that? \_ http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_GameBalancePart1.htm "Female fans of top Magic the Gathering player Ben Rubin await his arrival at a Pro Tour tournament in Sydney, Australia." \_ There's a recognized top Magic player?! Words escape me... |