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2003/5/23 [Uncategorized] UID:28530 Activity:nil
5/22    Thank you all for participating in the urinal thread.  This is one
        is classic motd.  :-)
        \_ my follow-up turd post was literally deleted within seconds.  oh
           well.  your loss.
        \_ We're not here for your entertainment.  Thanks is not required or
                                        \_ don't kid yourself.
           appropriate.
        \_ Where's the after-party?
2003/5/23 [Uncategorized] UID:28531 Activity:nil
5/22    When strippers attack:
        http://www.petting-zoo.net/~deadbeef/archive/5337.html
2003/5/23 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:28532 Activity:moderate
5/22    When I was learning the basics of the network, I have always thought
        that one IP address per NIC card.  For machine that has multiple
        NIC, it is essentially a router... But the other day, my company's
        system admin just done something i don't quite understand: he
        assigned multiple IP to a computer (running windozes) which only
        have one NIC.  Can someone explain to me how does that work?
        Thanks
        \_ They're just aliases.  The NIC can listen for and respond to
           multiple IPs.  Most modern OS's can do this.  No magic.
           \_ or it can be multiple virtual sub-ints..
              \_ this is where i don't understand... where can I find out
                 more?
                 \_ 'man ifconfig' is a place to start.  -John
                 \_ STFW
        \_ Given that you have multiple web sites which resolve to
           different IPs in your subnet, you could host them all on one
           Windows computer, assigning one NIC the different IPs of your
           web sites.  (this is just one way to do it ...)
2003/5/23 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28533 Activity:kinda low
5/22    For those who use Mozilla Firebird...  I thought firebird is supposed
        to be lighter than the original Mozilla code, but it's still has a
        40mb memory footprint... is anyone else experiencing the same thing?
        [corrected. now mostly in english.  --englishd]
        \_ It depends on how much memory cache I let it use. At default
           setting, Pheonix fires up quicker and smaller, but eventually
           grows to the same size.
2003/5/23 [Uncategorized] UID:28534 Activity:nil
5/22    Meditation Light up the brain:
        http://csua.org/u/30c (story.news.yahoo.com)
2003/5/23 [Uncategorized] UID:28535 Activity:very high
5/23    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-689516,00.html
        Has the UN *ever* saved *anyone* without it really just being the
        US doing it in the UN's name?
        \_ No.  The UN is a big wanking society.
        \_ Kept the Cypriots from killing each other too much, worked in the
           Sinai, bunch of other places.  -John
           \_ too much?  worked in the Sinai?  That's really vague.  When has
              the UN actually done something?
                \_ Kept Cyprus from overt civil war between 1974 and today,
                   separated the Israelis and Egyptians/Syrians in 1973.
                   You're a poor troll.  -John
        \_ Bad troll, no cookie.
2003/5/23 [Recreation/Pets] UID:28536 Activity:moderate
5/22    WANTD: Recipies for civet cats.
        \_ http://www.ooze.com/ooze13/cats.html   Civet shouldn't be
           too much of a stretch.  -John
        \_ See also http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010525.html
                \_ That is extremely funny.  More so because I can just
                   imagine the type of people who pay that much for coffee.
        \_ What's with the civets today? http://csua.org/u/30e
2003/5/23 [Consumer/Camera] UID:28537 Activity:very high
5/23    What's the best/cheapest place for 4x6 photos? Walmart is $.26,
        clubphoto is $.25, and snapfish is $.25 (in bulk).
        \_ Are you talking about one roll of unprocessed film or individual
           reprints?
        \_ If you are talking about prints for digital camera, Costco
           prints them at $.19 per photo.
           \- perfect.
2003/5/23 [Computer/HW/Display, Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:28538 Activity:very high
5/23    I may be offered a very good deal on one of these:
        http://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/hw/peripherals \
        monitors.html#24.1inch  -- try:   http://csua.org/u/30d
        However, it's still a lot of money--I haven't closely looked at any
        monitors that size, and I'd like to know whether anyone's seen/used
        this one, or what people think of 1900x1200 @60hz with that size.
        Also, if anyone's seen it live, what do you think of the brightness
        on it?  I'm not a videophile, but I do want something reasonably
        crisp and clear.  -John
        \_ Contrast ratio, contrast ratio, contrast ratio.  Did I mention
           contrast ratio?  What's the contrast ratio on this?
           \_ A quick search says 500:1.  That's damn good.
        \_ You can stand 60hz for any length of time?
           \_ LCD monitors can run at lower refresh rates without flicker,
              due to the nature of the technology. I know a very sensitive
              person who uses a Compaq TFT 8000, running 1280x1024 @60Hz.
              The only issue is if you are trying to smoothly scroll down
              a page of text, the way it re-draws is a bit not-smooth.
              But for a stable image, it is quite nice to look at.
              Since this SUN monitor has DVI, if you have the right video
              card, you should have a purely digital signal, and that
              is important, doing a double DA conversion can create
              annoying noise in the picture. DVI should be great. -brett
                \_ GeForce 4 TI4400--pretty good.  I also want to use it
                   for lots of games.  -John
                    \_ I think a 60Hz LCD would not be good for games,
                       but I'm not a gamer, so I'm not sure. -brett
                       \_ Why would you think that and what games would you
                          think that for?
                           \_ The whole screen doesn't get redrawn quick
                              enough. each redraw takes 1/60th of a second,
                              and LCD pixels take time to change. I think
                              called "persistance"? For playing games, you
                              want quick pixel response times and fast
                              redraws. I think with an LCD, you'd get
                              ghosting and not-smoothe motion. This would
                              be for fast-motion games that use a big part
                              (or all) of your screen. I could be mistaken,
                              I'm curious if other csua'ers have experience
                              with games on 60Hz LCD's 'cause I don't. -brett
                              \_ I play games all the time on my 60Hz LCD on my
                                 laptop.  I play Team Fortress, Warcraft III,
                                 and just finished Splinter Cell.  It looks
                                 great.  Not quite as crisp as my CRT, but not a
                                 problem.  -emarkp
        \_ I don't know about this particular monitor, but I've gotten
           headaches and eye-aches from monitors that have a low frequency
           scan.  60 Hz I remember it was.  Maybe I'm just overtly sensible.
                \_ You are not sensible.
           \_ I'm sensitive to low frequencies. My monitors are all 75Hz or
              above. But I just bought my sister a 19" Sony flatpanel, and
              at 60Hz, I could detect absolutely no flicker.
              \_ wow, that's pretty sensitive.  absolutely no flicker.
                  \_ 60Hz LCD's don't flicker. see above.
                     My old Toshiba 460CDX laptop ran a 31Hz;
                     It had just a little flicker.
                 \_ *sigh* LCD != conventional CRT.
                    \_ This is the motd.  Please do not bring facts into this.
                       \_ D'oh. Sorry! Won't happen again.
2003/5/23 [Uncategorized] UID:28539 Activity:nil
5/25    What are .xdw files?  Is it some compressed format?  How do I open
        those files?  Thanks.
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