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| 2003/5/16 [Science/Space, Computer/SW/Editors/IDE] UID:28453 Activity:high |
5/15 http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=1280841&nav=5D7lFqxI Total lunar eclipse tonight at sunset (after 8pm), great visibility from Bay Area. \_ Amazingly, it is also a complete solar eclipse! The sun will be completely hidden behind the earth! |
| 2003/5/16-17 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:28454 Activity:moderate |
5/15 Anybody heard any experience about buying the Lindows laptop to
install Debian Linux on?
\_ second that. in fact... is that VIA chip they are using Intel-
compatible? would you guys share the experience using it? thanks
\_ cohorts have freebsd and redhat running on c3 boxes.
\_ Any other recommendations for a nice c3 laptop for
Linux that has an eraser-top mouse pointer? |
| 2003/5/16 [Health/Disease/General] UID:28455 Activity:high |
5/15 How many people find it ironic that during the Dark Ages the primitive
white barbarians were dying of the plague while the advanced Asian
culture thrived on drinking only cooked water (tea), eating only cooked
vegetables, taking shoes off before going to the house (hence not
bringing in germs/bacteria from the farm)... and now that same culture
is breeding SARS?
\_ there are plenty of shithole slums throughout the world, and not
all of them originate new weirdass diseases. as some news
reports have mentioned, it's thought that SARS is a result of a
cantonese tradition of eating exotic foods, in particular,
animals. moral: don't go around digging up diseases no one's
ever been exposed to before.
\_ I don't think SARS has anything to do with cultural / technical
inferiority of China. Granted, that it is still a mystry why
SARS and many of common cold / influenza originated near
Guangdong area every year. Bio nerds, please enlighten us.
\_ So your express your ill formed opinion, deny the obvious from
the OP, then ask for advice from the bio people? Go re-read the
OP and you'll find the enlightenment you seek. -!op
\_ Cause that part of the world will be what it has always been -
a feudal third world shithole? |
| 2003/5/16 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:28456 Activity:very high |
5/15 Just give you an idea what kind of crap we have to put up here in
Taiwan: They found out that Ministry of Health, on one hand, begging
for join the WHO, on the other hand, stockpiling hundreds of
thousands of N95 masks while major hospitals here are having
severe shortage of protective gears for the medical staffs. The motive
is not exactly clear.
\_ it'd be immoral to leave taiwan out of who.
\_ it is immoral to leave the world's hospital workers
susceptible to all the airborn diseases they are trying
to save people from, especially when these masks have
never been shown to stop SARS and most people have no
experience using these masks (it is just their false
peace of mind vs. a real threat of infection from truly
airborn diseases to medical staff).
Oh, and LEARN HOW TO INDENT you simple minded fool.
\_ Clearly evil Western forces are at play....
\_ It's just the standard Chinese tactic of looking out for #1.
Chinese (and all Easterners) don't really have a moral code,
it's all about face. They'll do any damned thing if they think
they won't get caught.
\_ I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it sounds
like you're damning them with false praise if not simply
making a racist judgement based on limited knowledge and
experience. Can you provide context for your comments?
\_ It would be funny if the person complaining were from
mainland China, and the person who responded were not
\_ Perhaps, but would then make even more inexplicable
the lumping of all Easterners together.
\_ unless he or she were trying to troll you |
| 2003/5/16 [Recreation/Dating] UID:28457 Activity:high |
5/15 At what point in a relationship do you have sex?
\_ at a sharp one.
\_ early and often
\_ just like voting!
\_ first date? second date?
\_ when you're erect and she's wet.
\_ Ah, you assume this is a heretosexual relationship.
\_ maybe he's just personifying his lover's ass... like
they do with boats.
\_ when after I'm done with yermom.
\_ well usually, i will pull her out of the trunk, open the bag,
and slap her to establish my dominance. then... what the fuck
is wrong with you? what a stupid troll.
\_ Think Nike. Just do it. Fool.
\_ Well this is probably just a troll, but on the off chance that
it is not, I will say that it varies widely. I have had sex
with people I met that night at a party and had sex with
friends that I had known for years before we did it for the
first time. But if you have been hanging out/dating/whatever
for six weeks and there is no physical chemistry, you can
probably forget about it. Religious people probably take
longer.
\_ After the wedding.
\_ what if it doesn't fit? |
| 2003/5/16 [Uncategorized] UID:28458 Activity:high |
5/15 When Animals Attack:
http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/default.asp?target=bear_sub1.htm
\_ http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/bear_sub1.jpg
http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/bear_sub2.jpg
http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/bear_sub3.jpg
\_ That's nice, but where are the pictures?
\_ http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/bear_sub1.jpg
http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/bear_sub2.jpg
http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/bear_sub3.jpg
\_ Thanks, I guess my firewall was filtering on the "mutants"
part. |
| 2003/5/16 [Uncategorized] UID:28459 Activity:high |
5/15 It's Friday. Where's my porn?
\_ Wait your turn. I'm going to the bathroom with it right now.
\_ http://www.tubgirl.com (not work safe)
\_ Good god. I just wish I could erase stuff like that from my
brain once I've been stupid enough to look. |
| 2003/5/16-17 [Health/Women] UID:28460 Activity:high |
5/16 How common is it for women to have mustaches? I'm not talking about
big, bushy Tom Selleck ones. Just normal (for a female) not very
noticeable ones that are almost like tiny baby hairs.
\_ Common enough for the hairier peoples. Just get it waxed once
or twice a month.
\_ it's very common. most women, if they don't shave, do develop
tom selleck moustaches. it's one of these things chicks just don't
tell you.
\_ Hairier peoples? Who are these 'harrier peoples'? And who
gets to say they're hairy?
\_ I'd say it's really common, like 1/3. Women shouldn't worry
overmuch about it unless it's relaly noticeable. The example
I have in mind looks plenty feminine.
\_ more than 1/3, just most blonds you can't tell unless you
are like 3 inches from their mouth and by then it doesn't
really matter.
\_ You mean you don't think, "My God, her mustache is thicker
than mine?!" just before your lips lock? You should.
\_ for caucasian or middle eastern women, it's very common. my
pet theory is that caucasian women are as hairy as east asian men. |
| 2003/5/16 [Recreation/Sports, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:28461 Activity:moderate |
5/15 Would someone be so kind as to post a "Complete" Gamespot ID and
password. I want to watch some game previews and $30 is just a bit
much. I'm actually disappointed the game companies don't post these
on their own sites.
\_ Why waste their own bandwidth when there are web companies like
Gamespot who would gladly host their stuff for them? And $25
is chump change for a year's worth of access. Oh, and yes, the
Half-Life 2 videos are most impressive.
\_ Thanks for the pointer. Now kicking in my p2p client...
...yes, those are pretty neat!
\_ I don't think you even have to go that far. If I'm not
mistaken, some of the videos are BitTorrent'ed
\_ Really? I'm googling and not finding. Perhaps I suck. |
| 2003/5/16 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:28462 Activity:moderate |
5/15 Is a Pentium 133 Mhz Processor fast enough to decode mp3's in
real-time?
\_ Almost certainly yes, depending on load. I used to play mp3s
on a 166 win95 machine, but I couldn't use netscape at the same
time. And I think that might have even gotten better later on
when winamp improved their decoder.
\_ This would be a linux box totally dedicated to the task -op
\_ God... what a sad waste of good hardware....
\_ Ha ha. funny you are.
\_ I remember when I used not just play, but encode my cd's on
my 486. My gf don't like encoding the cd's on her 1GHz
celeron laptop. |
| 2003/5/16-17 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:28463 Activity:insanely high |
5/15 I highly suggest everyone read this... a compelling, eloquent
talk by Arundhati Roy that I was lucky enough to witness:
http://www.cesr.org/roy/royspeech.htm
[reposted... if someone wants to repost any of the responses that
also got deleted, feel free]
\_ Holy shit! She had to travel to Iraqi to find out that wars not
only kill civilians but destroy civil infrastructure, too! What
a shocker! I'll sell all my stock in General Dynamics at the
opening bell! Who would've thunk war kills people and blows shit
up? This is highly compelling!!!
\_ Compelling my eye. Bitch bitch bitch. Where was she when
Hussein was producing those mass graves of his? Or is it only
fashionable to bitch at the United States because someone with
a large wallet and a guilty conscience might be knocked for some
mula there?
\_ You miss the point. Mass graves were not a reason to go to
war. Internal injustice has never been a reason.
Anyway the problem with her speech is what the person below
says: it doesn't matter what we think, it matters what the
dumb bastards in Texas et al think.
\_ So if you saw millions of people getting killed in death
camps in another country, you'd write it off as an internal
political debate and it's not your problem, eh? You're one
sick bastard. And I mean that as a statement of fact not a
childish motd insult.
\_ Reasons are not important, effects are.
\_ You seem to imply that the war has had good effects.
If we were in Iraq to right the wrongs of a half-century
of bad foreign policy, excellent. But so far all I see
is a lot of angry proto-terrorists who are getting
getting some good practice with looting and lawlessness.
\_ You mean the war had no good effects? Are you insane
or trolling? Don't let the western coverage fool you,
Iraqis are happy as can be that Hussein is gone, and
that is what's important. Interestingly enough, this
looting of which you speak was greatly exaggerated by
the western press, and turns out was often perpetrated
by baath party members.
\_ Nah, Iraq is currently an anarchic mess. Hopefully
US troops would impose some order soon.
\_the truth is, most people in iraq were probably
deeply ambivalent about the US's intervention.
check out that "where is raed" weblog as a good
(and fascinating) anecdotal example of this. Also
true is that the costs of this war (and by that I
include the years of sanctions since they are all
part of essentially the same western aggression)
are quite real and severe (loss of life,
diminished quality of life for nearly all but the
iraqi elites) while the benefits are only
questionable.
\_ Ah yes, sanctions, the same sanctions people like
you said would get Iraq out of Kuwait in '90 and
now are a tool of "western aggression". Make up
your mind.
\_ This is where a lot of (us) liberals tend to get
confused: we want to believe, ultimately, that
any war is wrong. The sad truth, however, is that
sometimes military action is required to effect
meaningful change. Military action prevented the
ultimate genocide of the Kosovars and caused the
topple of Saddam Hussein. These are good things. The
difference between the two (and where most Cons get
mixed up) is that the first was a necessary action
carried out when all other alternatives had been
tried and the danger was imminent, while the second
involved a brash decision to brazenly and callously
disregard the alternatives despite a lack of
evidence of a need for urgency. We're all happy
that Saddam Hussein is no longer in power. What
we (liberals) are unhappy about is the way it was
done. And despite what you may think you learned in
high school civics, the ends does not always justify
the means. In this case, the means have compromised
the security of the ends. --erikred
\_ I suppose you get easily flustered. Regardless
of why you may think Bush went to war, it seems
pretty clear that ousting Saddam was a good
thing. How can this be confusing? The man
gassed hundreds of thousands. If you want to
question motives fine, we can have an argument
about that, but questioning whether the outcome
of the war was a good thing makes people not
take you seriously.
\_ I suggest you read my post again and then
consider erasing your response. I'm not
arguing that getting rid of Saddam Hussein
was wrong. I'm saying that the way it was
done was wrong. --erikred
\_ Why was the way wrong? The diplomatic
way would have taken longer, (perhaps
infinitely long). Meanwhile Hussein
would have had free license to continue
his butchery. How is a faster way not
more humane? Do you really hate Bush this
much?
\_ hundreds of thousands? why don't you just
say millions. the most he gassed are
the iranians during the iran/iraq war,
during which the us actively supported
iraq.
\_ because he didn't gas millions. however he
is responsible for more arab deaths than
any other individual, group, .org, or
entity throughout *ALL* of history. think
about that for a second.
\_ most of those deaths occurred when the
US was *actively* (with money and
weapons) supporting Iraq and Saddam.
and US leaders at the time knew about
it. Hence Arundhati's point that
ousting Sadam is in some sense a good
thing to do, but if we hold him
responsible for those deaths we should
likewise consider those that
enabled him war criminals.
\_ yea, I supported war against the taliban but
not iraq. taliban is hopeless and anything is
better than taliban.
\_ but the baath party wasn't hopeless? it just
needed a slight diplomatic push to reform?
\- AR for someone who comes across as a nice person is sort of a
rhetorical terrorist. --psb
\_ Good god, partha. What does that make you? At least she's
easy to look at.
\- i think jhumpa lahiri is more attractive. --psb
\_ that lahiri is more attractive doesn't mean roy is
altogether unattractive. and both are certainly more
pleasing to the eye than you, partha.
\_ Dis not the Everlasting And Infinite Beauty of The PSB!
--psb #1 Fan
\- was she smoking [tobacco] when you saw her?
ask her wht she think about giving money to
tobacco companies. --psb
\_ Really, is that the best you can do?
\_ Infidel! The psb shall crush you like the tiny
insect you are and devour your soul!
--psb #1 Fan
\_ If DanS were here, he should observe the correct
use of brackets in a sentence.
\_ AR speaks from a place of outrage, and it's a justifiable
outrage. Unfortunately, the only people who want to hear
what she has to say are the people who already know all of
this. If the outraged want their message heard by the rest,
they'd better learn how to soundbite it, give it punch, and
market it. Only when it appears as a matter of course on
The View will it actually have any chance of waking people up.
\_ Outraged about being civilised and not lingering in, or
returning to, some third world feudal shithole?
\_ Where was this wench and all the other libs during Clinton
taking out Slobo? All this rhetoric is thinly veiled proganda
(by communists) aimed one side of the political spectrum- Iraq
simply provides a rallying point. Also, if not for Western
imperialism in her native land she would be burned to
death in her husbands pyre.
\_ Communists? Who the fuck are you, J. Edgar Hoover? Nobody
bothers blaming the communists anymore. Just chalk it up
to the ineffectual intellectual left and be done with it,
you rabid left-baiting twink.
\_ "Nobody bothers blaming the communists anymore". That's a
silly statement. When the Soviets were around, you leftists
claimed they weren't "Real Communists" so they didn't count as
such. Now that they're working on making a real western style
capitalist democracy you make some silly noise about the
commies being dead and completely duck his question about
Slobodon and Kosovo. Your rhetorical fu is weak! You are
busted! Thank you for playing, please review chapters 1 and
2 in your Rhetoric 1A book for the quiz on Monday.
\_ Please say something intelligent / factual if you want
me to reply, and not prate trite epithets.
\_ I'd like to see a response to the Slobo question.
\_ She probably was not supporting that US intervention
either... although many were. A genocidal dictator
was taken out of power and tried in international court.
This is very different from the Iraq case where the US
provided a dictator with money and weapons for years, and
then when he stopped obeying orders took the country
by force.
\_ imperialism does not go hand-in-hand with modernization/
globalization. You are probably one of those fools who shouts
about how great women in Afghanistan have it now that Bush
has intervened.
\_ 1) statement of opinion, not fact. you can't possibly back
up your imperalism/modernization comment.
2) modernization is *not* globalization.
3) who the hell wants globalization anyway?
\_ Case in point: Cuba. A modernized country that is not
part of the US international trade empire. |
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