Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2003:May:02 Friday <Thursday, Saturday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2003/5/2 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:28294 Activity:moderate
5/1     Got a URL for a good POP3 or IMAP intro/FAQ?  I know basically nothing
        about them.
        \_ Pop3 has only 5 or 6 commands.  Telnet to port 110 and see.
        \_ Here's my POP3 primer:
                telnet localhost 110
                user <username>
                pass <password>
                retr <message #>
2003/5/2 [Uncategorized] UID:28295 Activity:very high
5/1     dear motd grammarians... is "Per our conversation" better or is
        "As per our conversation" better?
        \_ They mean the same thing.  Be frugal.
        \_ Why not "In regard to," "According to," etc..
            \_ 'cause that's not frugal. -TOP
        \_ as we discussed
2003/5/2 [Finance/Investment] UID:28296 Activity:high
5/1     for the curious, "sic" means "thus" in latin.
        \_ And is used to mark text when you mean "This is wrong, but I'm
           leaving as it was in the original."  [text like this] is altered or
           inserted to change verb tense or replace pronouns with the
           antecedent so you can read a short quote with context.
           \_ poor dans
           \_ Dans isn't poor.  He is an idiot.  It's always healthy to point
              their nature out to idiots.  They may eventually change.
2003/5/2 [Health/Disease/General] UID:28297 Activity:high
5/1     I am currently in a region where SARS is still rampaging through out.
        Right now, my office building has issued couple ordinance such as:
        1. prohibit speaking inside the elevator
        2. wearing mask inside the lobby and hall way mandatory.

        Ok, if this is United States, did any of these orindances violated
        my constitutional rights?
         \_ where do you live?  I will come over and put
            out of your misery.  thanks
        \_ construction workers are required to wear hard hats.  The
           mask requirement seems pretty similar.
           \_ well, we are not even sure rather masks work or not, consider
              that this is a viral disease.  Secondly, who can decide
              when or where one can speak or not?  there is no "clear and
              present danger"    --OP
              \_ It's an offshoot of the cold virus - we know masks have
                 value.  IRT your question - the public need to contain
                 a dangerous plague would override your personal freedom
                 to talk in the elevator.  Thats not protected speech.
        \_ Not in a private building.  It's stupid, but not illegal.
           \_ were you the one saying that constitutional law doesn't
              apply to private properties last time we had similiar
              \_ And motd shows that it does indeed have a long memory....
2003/5/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:28298 Activity:nil
5/2     Nuke!
2003/5/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:28299 Activity:moderate
5/2     The motd was gone because / was full.  I've fixed that. --scotsman
        \_ How could / become full?  What writes to /??
           \_ people who don't know how to use /usr/ports?
              \_ and those people have permissions to write to /?
                 \_ scary.  and how badly could one fuck up a usr/port install?
           \_ / is 120 megabytes--that's insane.
2003/5/2 [Uncategorized] UID:28300 Activity:nil 76%like:28308
5/3     Does EECS scan network traffic for porn?
2003/5/2 [Uncategorized] UID:28301 Activity:nil 85%like:28309
5/3     What's your favorite method of spying on motd-posters?
2003/5/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:28302 Activity:kinda low
5/2     What came first, Neptunes or NERD?
        \_ Neptunes... they've been around for a bit and produce all the
           beats for famous people that made them so successful. NERD
           was like a code name of sorts for some side project thing (a
           la Dan the Automator's "Handsome Boy Modelling School" or
           Madlib's "Yesterday's New Quintet") that was like this
           weird overly produced punk music that generally sucked.
        \_ dancehall came first, Neptunes ripped it off and smoothed it over
           \_ wha?
2003/5/2 [Uncategorized] UID:28303 Activity:nil
5/2     Hey, doesn't "range" rhyme with "orange" ?
        \_ Why don't you actually pronounce the two and figure it out?
2003/5/2 [Uncategorized] UID:28304 Activity:nil
5/1     I finally got rid of my cablemodem! Now I can motd in peace.
        \_ congrat!
2003/5/2-3 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:28305 Activity:very high
5/1     Alright, I have lots of personal mail (~5000 msgs) currently in
        Outlook Express (I know, big mistake, but I started using it a long
        while ago, and now here I am)... I would like to backup/archive
        these. I'm thinking the best format to store mail like this is the
        unix mbox format? Any other suggestions? Is there some way to
        convert all my outlook express mail (w/ folders, sub-folders, etc)
        to this format? thanks alot.
        \_ might be good enough for you.
           i found this by typing the following in googlsky:
        "outlook express" mbox unix
           "outlook express" mbox unix [formatd was here instead of deleted
           because you provided a decent answer]
        \_ mbox is ok if you never want to look at it again.  gzip and forget.
           \_ Why gzip when you can use philcompress?
              \_ Nunez knows his shit, man.
           \_ what if I do want to look at it again?
              \_ I'm an mh user and I like the way mh folders and the programs
                 that go with mh work so I'm going to say convert to that.  You
                 can later tar and compress the whole thing if you get bored of
                 it.  You can easily search and re-arrange files by subject,
                 date, sender, recipient, and other searches, etc, etc, etc.
                 It's powerful but I'm sure the pine users would tell you to
                 do something else.  ;-)
              \_ Mozilla uses mbox format.  It would be very easy to set up
                 mozilla (or thunderbird) as your mail program and the old mail
                 as a local mail folder.
                 \_ but mbox format sucks.
                    \_ No it doesn't.  Or do you want to elaborate?
                       \_ locking, single file corruption, searching, etc
        \_ I'm in the same boat, but my old mail is in Lotus Notes format.
           \_ Probably can be converted to exchange and then converted to
              outlook express and then to mbox.  Good luck!
        \_ Save all messages to a certain date in a PST file and burn it.
2003/5/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:28306 Activity:high
5/2     I hope you are not wearing pants today:
        \_  why don't you go post this in a forum read by people who
            others might want to see with their pants off? *shudder*
        \_ I'm not!  Thanks!
2003/5/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:28307 Activity:moderate
        Frontline now has a lot of episodes online.
        \_ cool! I recommend the porn one... its particularly fascinating.
           \_ You really are getting predictable, you know.
              \_ I knew you'd say that.
                 \_ I knew you'd say that.
        \_ Yeah, it was cool watching the saddam hussein stuff, especially
           the episode with the cold shoulder treatment to the UN inspectors.
2003/5/2-3 [Uncategorized] UID:28308 Activity:low 76%like:28300
5/2     Does EECS scan network traffic for porn?
[!5/3]  \_ Not specifically (it would be against policy), but they do look at
           overall bandwidth usage for "anomalies."  -tom
           \_ Has anyone been punished?
              \_ Yes.  Along with playing games/muds using inst acct.
              \_ It sounds like you're trying real hard to find out.
2003/5/2-3 [Computer/SW/OS, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:28309 Activity:high 85%like:28301
5/2     What's your favorite method of spying on motd-posters?
[!5/3]  \_ Well there's fstat /etc/motd for one...
           \_ works great:
> fstat /etc/motd.public
USER     CMD          PID   FD MOUNT      INUM MODE         SZ|DV R/W NAME
Bus error
           \_ How are you activating it?  I can't be arsed to hit fstat
              every second.  Also, does it spot emacs/jove?  I haven't
              seen it do so.
        \_ Rolled my own scripts.  Much more effective than fstat /etc/motd
           but really it isn't all that exciting knowing who all the anon
           people really are.
           \_ Enlighten us with your superior fu, wise one! (!sarcasm)
              \_ It's too trivial.  It took about 15 minutes to write 3 or 4
                 scripts to see who is doing what with about 90% accuracy.
                 \_ Then you have nothing to lose posting it. Really. I don't
                    know any better than shooting fstat calls with great
                    \_ scanning /proc?  aren't there also kernel monitors
                       to say "alarm when this file is written to"?
                       \_ kqueue
                          \_ interesting.  when I get around to it, this will
                             put me at near 100% when combined with my other
                             stuff.  thanks!  then I can start keeping track
                             of all your twink point totals!  (hah!)
                    \_ You're at college.  You've gotten some hints and tips
                       which is more than anyone gave me (I didn't ask).  You
                       need to think about it and try some stuff and figure it
                       out instead of getting spoonfed.  *I* have nothing to
                       lose by posting but *you* do.  I'm sure you think I'm a
                       dick but I'm not.  If it were something important you
                       *really* needed to know in a timely manner (to save
                       your job or your final grade) I'd give it to you.  This
                       is just the motd.
2019/01/15 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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