Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2003:April:30 Wednesday <Tuesday, Thursday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2003/4/30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:28265 Activity:kinda low
4/29    Anyone tried a recent firebird build.  It's pretty kickass.
        It feels quite snappy and the icons and preferences are niiiice.
        \_ do you mean the web browser or RDBMS?
           \_ the DB, of course.  What other firebird is there?
              \_ the browser
2003/4/30 [Consumer/TV, Recreation/Media] UID:28266 Activity:very high
4/29    Dudes.............. I got my hax0r'd DirecTV hooked up last night.
        It's awesome. All the porn and pay per view + Cal sports I could
        \_ How do I get one? --aaron
           \_ go to or check your email. Next person who has
                questions, just email aaron...
        \_ Did you see in the paper that the guy that hacked their P4 card
           (well, actually stole it from a job site) could get 25+ years on
           an espionage charge?
           \_ URL, please.
               \_ URL?  I read it in the newspaper.  Ya know, ink on dead tree.
        \_ that's igor.  he published some secret docs.  be careful.  dave
           (directv) is targetting hackers these days.  just go to
           and get hooked up and don't trust anybody (don't tell your
           friends).  i've been at this for 3-4 years...i know everything
           that there is to know about this stuff.
              (directv) is targetting hackers these days.  just go to
     and get hooked up and don't trust anybody (don't
           \_ Can you post your email so we know you've been picked up when
              you stop posting?  We can start a <DEAD><DEAD>
              site for you and take collections through paypal.  It'll be very
              geeky and we'll all feel good about ourselves after.  Maybe
              tell your friends).  i've been at this for 3-4 years...i know
              everything that there is to know about this stuff.
              \_ Can you post your email so we know you've been picked up when
                 you stop posting?  We can start a <DEAD><DEAD>
                 site for you and take collections through paypal.  It'll be
                 very geeky and we'll all feel good about ourselves after.
                 Maybe you'll be allowed net once a week from jail.  Say hi to
                 your cell mate from us!
              \_ [Reformatted to make sense]
              you'll be allowed net once a week from jail.  Say hi to your
              cell mate from us!
2003/4/30-5/1 [Uncategorized] UID:28267 Activity:low
        Crushlink for UC Berkeley.
           Any of you hosers responsible or did tpc pull this himself?
2003/4/30-5/1 [Reference/BayArea, Health/Dental] UID:28268 Activity:very high
4/30    I know there are some grad students here.  How much do you end up
        paying per year in Union dues, if you are on a unionized campus?
        Has anyone found a way to get out of paying the dues if they don't
        want to be in or support the union? How much to the union people
        interfere in your everyday work?  Any informaion, prefereably
        with links is appreciated.  We are trying to stop a union on our campus.
        \_Just go up to the Union rep and demand your dues back if
          they've been garnished. This Union crap is garbage since
          grad students in different majors have nothing in common with
          one another. Why would an MBA student want to join a union?
              \_ There's dental plans and dental plans. My fiance, a UCB
        \_ The union at UC Berkeley is responsible for the grad students
           finally getting a dental plan. Does that help?
           \_ Are dental plans ever actually worth the hassle of finding a
              doctor in the system just for a tiny cut in price?
              \_ almost all dentists are in Delta.
              \_ There's dental plans and dental plans. My fiancee, a UCB
              \_ There's dental plans and dental plans. My fiance, a UCB
                 grad student, can now afford dental work where before
                 she couldn't. YMMV.
              \_ "Tiny cut" is 50% or more?
        \_ In general, liberal arts programs/students are poor and want
           unions more than those in the engineering disciplines
           \_ To some degree that treatment is deliberate. America already
              has plenty of history and sociology PhD's. So we tend to
              treat the PhD students pretty poorly ... reduces demand
              (and there's still too many of them). Engineering and hard
              sciences, on the other hand, can find jobs elsewhere so have
              to be treated well, AND we need more of them. At most schools
              RA/TA salaries for eng/sci are much higher (and eng/sci grad
              students usually have a much lower teaching load over their
           unions more than those in the engineering disciplines
              graduate careers).
2003/4/30-5/1 [Health/Men] UID:28269 Activity:high
4/30    In American Pie II, Stiffler is a prick and everyone can see that.
        How come he gets laid more than the other guys?
        \_ Women who aren't gay want pricks.  Duh.
                \_ the question is, WHY do women want pricks over nice guys
                   \_ Why do men want needy sluts over nice girls
                      \_ Nah, men likes to turn nice girls into sluts.
                      \_ Men like sex. Sluts put out, nice girls are
                         less likely to.
        \_ It's: 1) a movie, 2) the others were pussies.
        \_ christine, wanna comment on why you guys like pricks instead
           nice stable engineering men?
2003/4/30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/Europe, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:28270 Activity:kinda low
        \_ Nice.  In all fairness, description as follows:
           Scathing Op/Ed piece on NYTimes' lack of journalistic integrity.
2003/4/30 [Recreation/Dating] UID:28271 Activity:nil
        \_ love this site.
2003/4/30-5/1 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:28272 Activity:moderate
4/30    so what is the opinion on apple's new service? is the motd silent bc
        it is just apple media buzz or are sodans not big mac users?
        \_ a sodan slaved away 10 hours a day for the last 3 months
           on the software side.
        \_ Many Sodans died to bring us this this information.  -Mon Smegma
        \_ Many Sodans died to bring us this this information.  -Mon Partha
           \_ and one just really wanted to be a part of it.
2003/4/30-5/1 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/Security] UID:28273 Activity:low
4/30    So can someone comment on the problem(s) with /var?  Why does it keep
        filling up, what are people doing to fix the problem each time?  Maybe
        somebody here already knows a longterm solution.
        \_ It is some attachment problem. It goes away on its own.
           Jon thinks it is related to SA. I cannot tell anymore than
           that because I do not have root. You should email root or
           the politburo for answers to questions like this. -ausman
           \_ actually, it goes away when someone with root comes along
              and cleans out whatever file(s) causing the prob.
2003/4/30 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:28274 Activity:high
4/30    Initially when we went into Somalia, the people loved the US troops.
        We brought them food and they were fed.  After the situation stabilized
        the Somalis turned against us.  And culminated by dragging a dead US
        soldiers through the streets.  Beware that history might repeat
        \_ Tell that to George W. "I look to history, but only selectively"
        \_ Wow, that's a really cool rewrite of history.  I like how you saw
           a hollywood movie made from a book and then decided how the world
           works from there and can be applied to all other cases the same way.
           I'm glad you don't work in foreign affairs.  Keeping hacking java.
           Stick with what you know, you'll do better.
        \_ Yea, like I said, this looks like another Palestine, except a few
           times larger.
        \_ Somalia was never stablized. Warlords ruled most of the country.
           The US went in to cover food aid and then got mixed up in nation
           building. Right now, Afghanistan is a closer match but without
           constant media showing Somalia's millions of starving. Iraq will
           be MUCH different from both. I agree with the Palestine analogy.
           \_ Only difference is that unlike Israel, US civilians are not
              at the scene, and hence not as exposed.  Hopefully US military
              personnel fend for themselves better.  Otherwise, it can get
2003/4/30 [Health/Women] UID:28275 Activity:nil
4/30    Boy gets pregnant:
        \_ Big deal.  I've been pregnant before.
        \_ that's murder
2003/4/30 [Uncategorized] UID:28276 Activity:nil
4/30    Today's comic relief as Norman Mailer says we attacked Iraq because
        today's sports legends aren't white:,,482-662789,00.html
           seems like Jay Garner agrees
           \_ Read your own link before posting next time please.
2003/4/30 [Recreation/Food] UID:28277 Activity:kinda low
4/29    Can someone remind me what is the name of the circular, hotel-top place
        in SF around Embarcadero where people go for "romantic dates"?  I think
        it's a dining / bar area on top of Marriot or some big hotels around
        there where you have a cicular view of the bay.  And, what's the likely
        of me getting a dinner reservation for this Friday night?
        \_ Go the Union Square and buy a homeless guy some food to show her
           your caring sensitive 90's side.  Show her that you're in touch
           with your nurturing caring feminine inner self.  Women like that.
        \_ Equinox. No problems getting a reservation.
        \- if you want to go somewhere for a date, go to aquarello or
           merenda. m is a little cheeper than a. going to equinox, julius
           castle,carnellian room etc is stupid. "the view" at the top of the
           marriot is ok, but i would avoid it on a friday night ...
           it is a really cheesy scene. same for top of the mark.
           if you go to the view, get an "absolut kamikaze" --psb
                \- beach chalet is ok for a date too. lower budget. --psb
                   \_ Speaking of which, inquiring minds want to know how
                      the Potempkin went.
                          \- i dont potemkin and tell.
        \_ On Sunday mornings the Equinox hosts a jazz brunch and 103.7 (KKSF)
           broadcasts from the restaurant.  It is an all inclusive brunch, read
           as much liquor you want to drink on a Sunday morning, but price is
           about $50 per person.  I've spent almost four hours eating, drinkin,
           and being merry so it is well worth the price, but almost more suited
           for a group of people going together than a date. --dre
                \_ Ritz Carlton brunch is $50 per person. Take your pick.
2003/4/30 [Politics/Domestic] UID:28278 Activity:nil
4/29    Stupid boring crap deleted since all the interesting stuff was gone
        we might as well make it short if it can't be worth reading.
        \_ "Stupid boring crap == message of liberal views  ??
           \_ No.  Stupid boring crap == what was left over after anything and
              everything non-technical was deleted.  Why do you assume that
              someone of any political stripe would delete only the
              alternative viewpoint's threads?  Quite the opposite in fact.
              The left posting is an opportunity to correct and educate
              because leftists don't have views, they have feelings.
              \_ Right on! Conservatives always argue from logic and
                 never resort to personal attacks like those weepy liberals.
                 \_ the vast majority of everyone is a moron.  there are a
                    few well-informed people on both sides of most issues.
                 \_ I don't speak for other conservatives.  I'm the one who
                    purged the other crap so I'm replying for myself.  You
                    asked a question about what was purged, the person who
                    did it told you.  Don't like the answer?  Tough shit.
2003/4/30 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:28279 Activity:kinda low
4/29    Say I'm sueing someone and I'd like to track down where this person
        lives. How much do private investigators cost? BTW this is the guy
        who hit my car and gave me a fake address and insurance information.
        \- what do you know accuratly? name? lic plate? seems like the police
           should help you out. while it probably isnt a high priority,
           they might be helpful since it is so simple. i would think your
           insurance company could get it from dmv or police or other means.
        \_ Why are you the one doing the suing?  Turn over all the info you
           have to your insurance company and let them deal with it.  They're
           going to want to find him and make his insurance company pay so
           they don't have to.
           \_ Probably below the insurance deductible and the $750 damage
              minimum to report. Sucks to be you.
              \_ My door got dinged by an SUV going 10 mph.  $2200.  Something
                 under $750 is a paint scratch.  A small paint scratch.
                 \_ May not be a new car.
2003/4/30-5/1 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:28280 Activity:very high
4/30    I'm a 22 year old grad student and I still haven't gotten laid.
        What do you guys think about using phermones to increase your chance
        of getting laid? Are they scientifically proven to work? -ecchang
        \_ TA
                \_ TA for a CS class (full of men), great idea to get laid
                   with supressed desperate and ugly gay/homo guys. Got
                   better ideas?
                   \_ I'm sure you're qualified to TA the math course all
                      the bio majors take.  Be advised you can be thrown
                      out of the university for this, however.
        \_ You don't need pheremones. You need $100 and the address of
           a good whorehouse.
        \_ start by going to
        \_ start in Nevada, or stop taking motd advice, ditch the computer,
           start breathing fresh air, develop some social skills, score a
           date, and then the violins will start playing.
2003/4/30-5/1 [Uncategorized] UID:28281 Activity:nil
4/30    Who is this ecchang and why are people saying nasty things about him?
        \_ Just ask yermom.
2003/4/30-5/1 [Transportation/Car] UID:28282 Activity:high
4/30    Where do you go to get car regular maintainance?  The dealers are
        charging a lot of money.  But do you trust a non-dealer?
        \_ Sure I trust my non-dealer, and more than I do the dealer.
           But there is value to sticking with the dealer until the end
           of the warranty period.
        \_ As a Ford owner I can unfortunately honestly say you should
           a) never buy a Ford no matter how good a deal it looked like at
              the time and
                \_ what did you buy, and what location? (randomly curious,
                   also had bad luck with Ford in the past)
                   \_ I'm too ashamed to say anything that might ID me.  I
                      *have* seen Ford dealership stories on the net on their
                      different scams and had the local PoS try one on me
                      exactly as described on the net.  Just don't buy a Ford.
                      \_ Any links?
           b) if you're stupid enough to buy a Ford like me, then *never*
              bring it in to the dealer.  Ford dealers charge waaaaaay too
              much and they don't always do the work they claimed to have
              charged you hundreds of dollars for.
           I trust my non-dealer.  Ford almost killed me when they didn't
           bother to rebolt my transmission back in place properly.  What
           do you think would've happened if it dropped while I was doing 65?
           [btw, I've got a Ford for sale if anyone wants a good used car]
           \_ ask dbushong his ford matrix test drive story.
              \_ uh, i think you're thinking of the ford focus?
        \_ Depends on the car. Dealer is usually more expensive, but also
           more inclined to court your business (i.e. if they mess up they
           will try harder to correct it). They also have the best tools,
           manuals, and such. That doesn't mean they do a better job, though.
           If it is a newer car you care about and wish to keep, then take
           it to the dealer. Otherwise, find a good mechanic you trust and
           take it there. --dim
           \_ for lots of things (eg transmissions),
                dealers just send the work out.
                \_ Even if this is true, the dealer has more clout and
                   leverage than you do when the work goes bad. --dim
        \_ marty's motors
           \_ I went here once and when I was looking over my itemized bill
              I saw some extra $200 charge. when I asked him what it was he
              said, "uh... my secretary made a mistake. sorry" and took it
              off. I dunno, maybe it really was the secretary's fault... he
              seemed nice enough besides...
        \_ fred's wrench in alameda
           \- oceanworks is pretty good but they mostly do japanese cars--psb
        \_ has a list of
           fairly reliable recommendations in the Berkeley area.  --chris
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