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2003/4/3 [Uncategorized] UID:27961 Activity:nil
4/2     Anyone have any experience, good or bad, with netzero?
2003/4/3 [Consumer/PDA] UID:27962 Activity:high
4/2     I have an interesting problem.
        I usually ssh to soda to check my email, which requires good
        connection which I may not have.  There are times when I want
        to reply SOME email by doing it on my Palm.
        Since I don't do that at regular basis, I don't normally
        synch my email with my Palm.  but how to do that on an ad hoc
        basis?
        \_ This is an interesting problem?  Read your Palm manual.
2003/4/3-4 [Reference/Military, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27963 Activity:very high
4/2     All these discussion regards to weapon of mass destruction.
        Did we use Sarin gas during the Vietnam War?
        \_ no, we used agent orange.  Fucked up the jungle good. And our
           own soldiers.
        \_ all signs point to maybe
        \_ No.  Peter Arnett got busted and fired for saying so in 1998 with
           zero proof and CNN retracted the whole story.  The guy has quite a
           journalistic record of excellence.
           \_ "Zero proof"? How about the testimony of multiple sources,
              including two military officers? The only reason CNN retracted
              the story was political pressure.
              \_ bullshit.  URL.  2 military officers?  The ones he was
                 quoting that he hadn't even met?  Or maybe it was the
                 American officer he claimed got gassed and was dead yet
                 was there in studio 25+ years later to confront him with
                 his own lies?  You're fucking nuts or intentionally ignorant.
                 Or maybe I just got trolled... damn.  Trolled again.
                 \_ http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/tailwind_army.html
                    We certainly used some kind of gas stronger than
                    CS. Perhpas not Sarin, but the Army will not admit
                    to what exactly it was.
              \_ exactly.  the point is, we used weapon of mass destruction,
                 and we are not particularly proud of it (remember NY
                 Metro Museum wanted to do a exibition on 50 annualversiry
                 of Hiroshima, but dropped the idea because political
                 pressure?).  Japan used chemical / biological weapon
                 at a scale which makes Iraq looks like a child play,
                 and we forgive them.  If we take out this issue of
                 WMD, what else you can think of to support US's war
                 against Iraq?
                 \_ exactly not.  we didn't use nerve gas in vietnam and you
                    have zero proof of it anywhere.
                 \_ Governments in Japan and Germany are not the same as
                    those in power during WW2.  We did not forgive those
                    war-time goverments; we hanged them.
                    \_ go back to your history book.  We forgave Japan.
                       \_ Give me one source.
                          _/ (reformatted to fit)
                    \_ Emperor Shoowa stayed in throne until 1989.
                       \_ General Hideki Tojo danced at the end of a rope
                          in 1948 after an extensive trial that laid all
                          blame at his feet.
                       \_ On a powerless throne because it was easier than
                          losing a half million more people on both sides
                          doing an ugly mainland invasion.
                 \_ Unit 731 of Japan: http://csua.org/u/c3e
                 \_ "JAPAN ADMITS DISSECTING WW-II POWs"
                    <DEAD>www.ipsystems.com/powmia/unit-731.html<DEAD>
                    "The prisoners were eight American airmen ...... torn apart
                    organ by organ while they were still alive."
                    \_ And?  Never doubted the claim, just the forgiveness.
                        \_ Don't forget they also ate their POWs,
                           including Aussies and Americans.
                           \_ They were hungry.  Have you no compassion??
        We forgave them after we hanged a bunch of them.  -John
        \_ We placed blame on certain people and hanged those people. This
           does not imply forgiveness; it implies assigning singular blame
           and punishment for crimes committed on behalf of a nation.
        \_ And after we demilitarized them and after we
        dismantled their government and after we sort
        occupied their country and after we nuked two
        of their cities....
        \_ Yup.  You want a job done right the first
           time around.  In the case of the Germans,
           we didn't.  What's all this about nukes
           anyway?  We haven't nuked anyone in years.
           Nor have the Israelis or the Brits or the
           French or even the Rooskies.  Nukes all
           around!
                \_ not if some giant fuckheads in the Pentagon
                   and Congress have their way with implementing
                   small scale nukes.  I hate everyone right now.
                 \_ Because he's there. Reason enough.
                \_ Who let the Jews get nukes?!
                   \_ Clinton, who else?! What do you think that Monica
                      Lewinsky was really looking for in Billy's pants?
        \_ Biological and chemical warfare covers more than what most people
           think (ie. death by disease or exposure to toxin). In Vietnam,
           Agent Orange was used, but mostly as a biological warfare tool.
           The chem part was "accidental" or unintended. The bio part was to
           remove jungle and destroy crops. Starvation is bio-warfare. The
           attacks GWI and GWII vs. water delivery and treatment sites, while
           \_ ageng 0 was a weed killer for jungles to remove enemy cover
           called infrastructure attacks, are biological in nature. It can
           be argued that while not using a WMD, the US is using biowarfare.
           \_ Then can I also say shooting an enemy with a gun is biowarfare,
              since it stops his biological function?
              \_ Hell, is feeding someone Mexican food biological warfare?
                 How about milk if you're lactose intolerant?
           \_ Agent O was not to destroy crops.  Sheesh.  It's easier and
              cheaper to kill peasants if you want to stave out the country.
           \_ agent 0 was a weed killer for jungles to remove enemy cover
2003/4/3 [Reference/Religion, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27964 Activity:high
4/2     http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2003-04-02-freedman_x.htm
        Don't blame Jews for this war
        \_ I blame the Jews in West Palm Beach who voted for Pat Buchanan.
        \_ blame canada
                \_ Shut your fucking face, unclefucker
        \_ So I keep hearing how the Jews own the media and the banks and
           the government.  Someone forgot to tell me where to sign up to
           get my share!  --jewboy
2003/4/3-4 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:27965 Activity:moderate
4/3     My car's engine light just went on last it.  It's a 1997 Chevrolet
        Caviler.  Got any reliable and reasonable priced mechanic anywhere on
        the East Bay?  Doesn't matter if it's North or South East Bay.  Best if
        it's open on the weekends.
        \_ Marty's Motors.  Mostly imports, but if he's not up to the work
           he will say so and help you find someone who is.
        \_ 5th Street Garage in Oakland. I think the owner is a berkeley alum.
           they are open saturdays.
        \_ Campus Auto on Shattuck.
        \_ I had a very good experience with Fred's Wrench in Alameda.
           Aamco told me my transmission fluid smelled burnt and that I'd
           probably have to replace the whole thing ($1100).  Fred took me out
           for a spin so I could show him the problem, recommended a fuel
           additive to get rid of the knocks, and replaced my motor mounts for
           1/3 the price I'd been quoted elsewhere.  He told me the
           transmission was going downhill but given the age of the car it was
           better just to slowly change the fluid about a quart at a time.
           It's been 1.5 years now and it's still chugging along.
           \_ My experience and the experience of people I know is that
              while some independent places are good and some are bad, the
              big chain places will *always* rip you off.  Same with dentists.
              \_ Agreed.  Never get your brakes changed at PepBoys.  Somehow
                 they "forgot" a lugnut when putting my tire back on.
                 \_ at 5th st garage they accidentally broke a lug nut, but
                    fixed it for free. supposedly my type of car this happens
                    a lot and most places will usually charge you regardless.
              \_ I have gotten good cheap service from Midas shops outside
                 the Bay Area, but the one on Van Ness is a ripoff -ausman
                 \_ I had some break damage, went to the Midas in Fremont.
                    They quoted me $950 lowball.  I went to a mom/pop around
                    the corner.  Did the job for $600.  Midas sucks for
                    anything outside of a pad swap on special.  --scotsman
           \_ Check out recommendations at the following url
              http://parents.berkeley.edu/recommend/services/mechanic.html
              --chris
2003/4/3-4 [Reference/Military] UID:27966 Activity:moderate
4/3     Patriotic, religious hummel ware!  Isn't he adorable with that M-16?
        link:csua.org/u/c22
        \_ that's sick.
        \_ that's awesome.  Is there a link to buy one?  Will they send it to
           a difference address from the CC owner as a gift?
           \_ Purchase here: http://csua.org/u/c40
              Dunno about the gift shipping thing.  If you're a true Patriot
              and not some flouridating Commie you'll ship it to your own
              home with pride!
              \_ I'm buying a complete set for my entire family and my
                 church/company!  They'll love it!
2003/4/3-4 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:27967 Activity:high
4/3     M$ vs. Google:
        http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/030402/tech_microsoft_google_1.html
        \_ good luck, M$.
           \_ good luck google! --google#1 fan, scared of u$oft.
              \_ scared?  get over it.  MS is a company.  whatever.
                 \_ and the mafia is just a bunch of guys with
                    strong Sicilian accents wearing suits.
                    \_ seriously, get over it.
        \_ Never underestimate the power of great gobs of money
        \_ Classic Vaporware!
2003/4/3 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:27968 Activity:high
4/3     That Jessica Lynch is tough.  I heard she shot several Iraqis and
        she didn't want to be taken alive.  Two broken legs, broken arm,
        and at least one gunshot wound.
        \_ She's a Palestinian.
           \_ Uh, no, she's not.  She's from Palestine, West Virginia.  She's
              as white and American as a girl can get.
                \_ the guy above was joking...
                   \_  What do you call someone from Philadelphia?
                       She's a Palestinian.  This is a useless but
                       correct fact.
        \_ Do you have a URL you can post?  This is interesting.
           \_ turn on cnn/msnbc/foxnews/cbs/whatever for 30 seconds.
        \_ like saving private ryan
           \_ no, nothing like saving private ryan.
        \_ Don't forget that she was also stabbed.
        \_ How'd she get the broken legs and broken arm?
           \_ I'm only guessing here, but from bullets?
              \_ Good assumption.
           \_ or maybe a little retrobution after she ran outta bullets and
           \_ or maybe a little retribution after she ran outta bullets and
              got captured.
        \_ I wonder why the Iraqi soldiers didn't execute her or sexually
           assault her.  I thought extreme Muslims treat women with little
           respect.
           \_ Well, they said she was crying all the time.  Maybe they just
              couldn't do it.
           \_ you dont know what they did to her.
              \_ We're pretty sure they didn't execute her, though.
                 \_ Clones!
2003/4/3 [Uncategorized] UID:27969 Activity:high
4/3     I have been getting more than 10 porn spams in the last 3 days.  Am I
        the only one here?  Should I start configuring my own filters to be
        really strict?
        \_ With ifile, you'll never hear about blow jops and d0g seks again.
        \_ How to disabling ifile to getting be job blowing dog?
2003/4/3 [Computer/Networking] UID:27970 Activity:high
4/2     What's with the crappy connection tonight?
        \_ i thought it was just my connection.
        \_ Excuse the formatting, but:
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 to 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 to 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 to 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 to 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 to 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 on fxp0
arp: 128.32.112.1 moved from 00:00:c0:08:a6:d8 to 00:01:30:0b:d7:00 on fxp0
           <mikeh> I believe the bogus MAC belongs to upe.cs.
           So for those of you who don't speak geek, some FUCKING UPE
           MORON tried to set his IP address to that of the router that
           soda hangs off of.  Regrettably, folks stopped me from
           BEATING THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF THE FUCKING UPE MORON.
           - does not like honors societies full of idiots
           \_ Right, like you'd ever have the balls to physically attack
              someone.  Just try not to cry while you masturbate tonight.
                \_ soda is awesome, a post about a crappy connection
                   degenerates into the Commie eating, git tuff
                   free republic nerd guy calling people names.
                \_ I'll do it.  I'm big and mean and I don't like honors
                   societies full of idiots either.  -John
                   \_ Unfortunately, you're also in Europe, and the
                      politburo will never approve expensing your
                      flight.  --erikred
           \_ Just wondering, how did you figure out that the MAC belongs to
              UPE?
              \_ WE'RE SMARTER THAN YOU.  --root
2003/4/3 [Transportation/Car] UID:27971 Activity:nil
4/2     Ok so I lend a "friend" my car and he wrecked it. Now he's being an
        asshole and wouldn't pay for it (ok fine he's not a friend). I've
        called my insurance company and they said they'll take care of
        everything. Here is my question. Is the premium increase proportional
        to the cost of the repair?
        \- is your friend insured and is the damage small or are we
           talking hospital bills and potential lawsuits? there are probably
           a lot of factors that will go into the increase amount. if you
           have already disclosed this to your insurance why not just ask them?
           \_ Insurance follows the car, not the driver, yes no?  The friend's
              insurance will only apply for liability if anything.  I don't
              even know if it comes to bear at all.  If he has any balls, he'd
              pay your deductible and buy you drinks for life.
        \_ Yes, it is.  Your rates will go up for *any* claim and they'll go
           up even more for bigger claims and then again some more for doing
           something *REALLY FUCKING STUPID* like loaning out your car to
           someone else which shows a *TOTAL AND COMPLETE LACK OF BRAINPOWER*
           on your part.  You can expect your rates to rise by at least 30%
           and maybe more and I have no sympathy for you.
       \_ Did you at least get laid?
2003/4/3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27972 Activity:high
4/2     Those who supported DOS attack on Al Jazeera and think
        Al Jazeera is pro Iraqi, think again:
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2911935.stm
        \_ I'm a conservative, I don't think.
           \_ This is a perfect example. I, a conservative, originally
              posted the reply 'I'm a liberal, I don't think'.  So, instead
              of an original witty reparte what does some moron do, but
              transpose the word 'liberal' for conservative.
              \_ Are you seriously bragging that you are the one who posted
                 'I'm a liberal, I don't think'!?
                \_ Thats a little better.
           \_ bad troll.  no cookie.
        \_ all blatant trolling crap deleted.  everything else left alone.
        \_ How can you distinguish this from two evil stepsisters fighting?
        \_ From that article: "The US and UK have accused the station of bias
           and criticised it for airing pictures of dead Western troops."  Who
           is right?
           \_ Right?  In what sense?
2003/4/3 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:27973 Activity:high
4/2     any known tools to make HTML form / db connection easier?
        I have heard of Namo Webeditor.  Any others? open source ?
        \_ Define "easier".  I played with phprojekt, which does php/mysql
           pretty nicely.  Seemed very straightforward.  -John
        \_ vi, a cup & string and a whistle.
2003/4/3 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27974 Activity:high
4/2     'We didn't fly to Baghdad to drink coffee'
        (Former Russian Generals help Iraq prepare for war)
        http://www.gazeta.ru/2003/04/02/Wedidntflyto.shtml
        \_ They didn't do so well.
2003/4/3 [Uncategorized] UID:27975 Activity:nil
4/3     aaron do you find Jessica Lynch attractive? do u find ur mom sexy?
2003/4/3 [Uncategorized] UID:27976 Activity:nil
4/3     Why do u like asian chix aaron?
        \_ you shouldn't speak in tautologies
2003/4/3-4 [Computer/Networking] UID:27977 Activity:moderate
4/3     When I reboot an XP machine with DHCP enabled, sometimes it gets a
        different IP address.  How can I force it to broadcast its new IP addr
        to other Windoze machines on the same LAN, so that I don't have to wait
        for a while before I can reach the XP machine using its host name
        again?  Usually I think I have to wait 10 minutes or so. Thanks. --yuen
        \_ beg your sysadmin to increase the lease time to something more
           reasonable and you will get the same ip address more often. -shac
        \_ Add linux box, configure DDNS.
        \_ There's a registry settings for how often a windows host
           announces and reannounces itself on the net.  I don't recall the
           path but it's in there and can be modified.
2003/4/3-4 [Uncategorized] UID:27978 Activity:very high
4/3     Colossal Squid found in NZ:
        http://csua.org/u/c3c (http://www.cnn.com
        \_ How can they claim that this one is "more dangerous"?  It lives
           a bajillion miles under the sea.  Crikey.
           \_ supposedly it can hunt near the surface.
        \_ They have been seen attacking blue whales repeatedly.
                \_ I think you're wrong, we've seen evidence
           like giant sucker marks, but no one has actually seen a giant
           squid attack a whale before
                   like giant sucker marks, but no one has actually
                   seen a giant squid attack a whale before
           \_ Those marks are just the result of the oppressed vegan giant
              squids being brutally attacked and murdered on a daily basis
              by the carnivorous and evil blue whales.  We must re-socialize
              the whales to teach them to get along in harmony with all the
              other friendly creatures of the sea!
              \_ leem. no points.
              \_ nice try, but a real troll would have called for a return
                 to unconditional whaling to liberate the colossal squid.
2003/4/3-4 [Uncategorized] UID:27979 Activity:nil
4/3     Sugical masks in Hong Kong: http://csua.org/u/c42
2003/4/3-4 [Computer/SW/Apps/Media] UID:27980 Activity:very high
4/3     What's the simplest sound file format out that that can be played on a
        PC by, say, Media Player?  For pictures there is a .raw format which is
        just raw pixel values.  Is there something like that for sounds, where
        I can simply specify values for the waveform like "0, 127, 255, 127,
        0, ......" without complicated encoding, and the sampling rate in
        either a simple header or externally in the application?  Thanks.
        \_ WINDOWS MEDIA FORMAT, EAT SHIT AND DIE
        \_ wav is just raw audio with a header.  Look online for how to get
           rid of it.
           \_ Thanks!
           \_ no it's not.  wav is a container format; the audio data itself
              can be uncompressed PCM, or it can be compressed using any of a
              number of codecs (IMA ADPCM, MS ADPCM, MPEG1-III, etc.)
        \_ What exactly are you trying to do? Without more info, I think
           the best solution to your problem is to write raw, headerless
           data and then use SoX http://sox.sourceforge.net to convert
           it to something playable by WMP. There are many programs out
           there that will play raw headerless data (incl. SoX), so you
           can also use one of those directly if you want.
2003/4/3-4 [Uncategorized] UID:27981 Activity:very high
4/3     Jessica Lynch fought fiercely:
        http://www.msnbc.com/news/894669.asp?0cv=CB10
        \_ How soon until the Playboy spread?
        \_ Story is bogus, she was never shot at all.
          \_ refrence?
             \_ http://salon.com/news/wire/2003/04/03/pow/index.html
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