3/28    Favorite pron starlet?
        \_ Lynn Cheney
        \_ Tera Patrick
        \_ Aria Giovanni, natural boobs.
           \_ mmmm, the best ever.
              \_ Yup.  Actually I think she looked even better in her earlier
                 days when she didn't put on that much make-up.  After her
                 Penthouse days her face looks like a painting.
                 \_ Ah, the early days. Including fisting.
        \_ They have names???
           \_ Yes. And furthermore, as I just learned on the motd yesterday,
              pron also has seasons.
                \_ And vintages.  Don't forget vintages.

3/28     "But it's a house of cards. He rules by fear because he knows
          there is no underlying support. Support for Saddam, including
          within his military organization, will collapse at the first
          whiff of gunpowder. " -Richard Perle
          \_ Has he actually been seen since day 1, outside of canned video?
             Maybe he's in Argentina already.
         "My guess is even significant elements of the Republican Guard
          are likely as well to want to avoid conflict with the U.S.
          forces and are likely to step aside." -Dick Cheney
          \_ Arrogant Americans!
             \_ Brutal Iraqis who put a gun to people's heads if they don't
                fight or threaten to kill their children.  I'd rather belong
                to the arrogant group, thanks.
                \_ Ok, fine.  So they put a gun to poeple's heads to make
                   them fight.  Whey did we not anticipate this?  isn't
                   that the CIA's job?  Do you think they fucked up, or
                   do you think they lied?  Those are really the only
                   two possibilities at this point.
                   \_ The CIA did anticipate this.  They warned about the
                      paramilitaries being 'perhaps the greatest threat'.
                \_ What's wrong with that?  If Russia invaded US, and
                   instead of fighting, you run over to the enemy to
                   save your ass, I would shoot you too.
                \_ Using the logic behind this argument, you might as well
                   say:  Support Hitler or Stalin, I'd rather support Stalin.

3/28    Additional info about Rachel Corrie (lost the person vs. bulldozer
        contest a while ago, picture link was posted here)
        http://csua.org/u/be2
        If you don't like it, ignore it.  Don't delete it.
        \_ obhowcanyoubereadingworldnetdaily
           \_ I read (and check) the facts.  I also read Molly Ivins.  So?
           \_ I've read pretty much the same thing from several other sources.
              You think NPR is a better source of unbiased news?  How about
              Pravda?  They publish Pravda in English on the net now, but you
              probably knew that already.
              \_ obhowcanyoubereadingworldnetdaily
        \_ Please stop deleting this you hoser. -emarkp

3/28    Alternative to Al Jazeera:
        http://english.daralhayat.com
        \_ What is wrong with Al Jazeera?
           \_ what isn't?
           \_ well, it haas been down for the last few days and though
              back up, it is slow and presently link:english.aljazeera.net is
              NOT in english (sat 1:20 am)  That being said the above site
              is pretty weak.  http://www.arabnews.com seems a lot better.
              \_ http://arabnews.com is better at what?
           \_ Americans cannot reach http://aljazeera.net, for whatever reason.
              I hear that you can still reach it from overseas, though.

3/28    Take that, Salon haters!
        http://csua.org/u/bef
        \_ $800k?  That's nothing.  How many millions have they burned through
           already?  I noticed the 'article' doesn't mention burn rate or their
           projected final listing on http://fuckedcompany.com

3/28    Ok what's the diff between drinking water and distilled water?
        They actually sell different ones in the supermarket
        \_ drinking water often has some CaCO2 and salt and stuff added
           to make it taste better.  Distilled water is nearly pure H2O
           which tastes pretty nasty. --scotsman
           \_ What about purified water?  I saw bottled ones of that in
              some supermarkets too.
        \_ actually once you get used to distilled it tastes better.  it also
           doesn't crud up your pots/pans or glasses, bowls, etc.
           \_ I didn't think it healthy to drink much distilled water. --dim
              \_ I've heard that de-ionized water, like they have in clean
                 rooms, is really bad for you.  i've wondered if they just
                 say that to prevent idiots from drinking in the cleanroom.
              \_ well in theory you're missing out on some minerals and stuff
                 but if you're drinking, smoking, taking drugs, or take BART
                 more than once a week your health is at much greater risk.
        \_ Drink only rain water and grain alcohol, you fool!

3/29    N.Korea Vows No Nuclear Concessions, Cites Iraq
        "The DPRK would have already met the same miserable fate as
        Iraq's had it compromised its revolutionary principle and
        accepted the demand raised by the imperialists and its
        followers for "nuclear inspection" and disarmament," the
        ruling party daily Rodong Sinmun said in a commentary.
        http://csua.org/u/bf0
        \_ It just means that we better have some sort of missile defense in
           place before they try to nuke the west coast (sorry reality caught
           up to your fantasy, tom) or we'll end up bombing them back to
           sticks n stones in due time.
           \_ i gotta say, damn! what a coward, and i'm not even tom
              you might as well join the fedayeen saddam.
              \_ huh?  are you on the right thread?
           \_ Now if reality could only catch up with the fantasy of
              missile defense...
              \_ so you mean you dont believe the math exists to track a
                 trajectory over the pacific?  you don't believe in trig?
                 algebra? vectors?  "Math is hard!  Let's go shopping!"
              \_ and that's the real problem.  notice that the
                 physicists who stand to make billions in funding from
                 missile defense are the most vocal critics; because they
                 know it won't work.
                 \_ Who are "the physicists" you're talking about?  This stuff
                    is all done in government funded weapons labs, not from
                    the left wing of the UC Berkeley physics department.
           \_ Nah, I doubt they are interested in bombing the west coast,
              but if we try a regime change on them, it may get ugly.
              \_ It'll be a case of nuclear black mail.  "Give us all the money
                 and food and oil we need to keep our broken economy running
                 and our army fed and we won't nuke the west coast".

3/28    Favorite pr0n starlet?
        \_ bunch of fucking stereotypical unwashed overweight boring
           geeks, please kill yourselves now, thanks
           \_ why you gotta be hatin'?
        \_ Kobe Tai .
        \_ Lynn Cheney
           \_ is this for real?  She's not dick cheney's daughter is she?
        \_ Tera Patrick
        \_ Aria Giovanni, natural boobs.
           \_ mmmm, the best ever.
              \_ Yup.  Actually I think she looked even better in her earlier
                 days when she didn't put on that much make-up.  After her
                 Penthouse days her face looks like a painting.
                 \_ Ah, the early days. Including fisting.
                    \_ She did fisting???  Pics please?
                       \_ http://www.bomis.com/rings/aria (link #27)
        \_ They have names???
           \_ Yes. And furthermore, as I just learned on the motd yesterday,
              pron also has seasons.
                \_ And vintages.  Don't forget vintages.
                   \_ Seasons and vintage?  I'm still back on names....
        \_ Silvia Saint
        \_ Most are failed wannabe real actors/actresses. most describe their
           real dream as "make enough money to leave LA"
           \_ Yeah, and so? That's like saying a baseball player's goal is
              to win the World Series (ie, duh)
              \_ most of the best baseball players are actually failed
                 cricket players.
                 \_ the clincher is that cricket players are mostly failed
                    pron stars
                    \_ and the crazy thing is that both cricket AND baseball
                       ALSO have seasons!
                        \_ And vintages.  Don't forget vintages.

3/29    Motd restored, as usual.

3/29    I don't like this suicide car bomber killing at all.  Would Iraq
        become a Palestine, but 5 times the size?
        \_ The scary thing about this war is that there have been already
           many reports that the population of the Southern Iraq is not as
           welcoming towards the US troops as expected. For example, one of
           Iraq's Ayatollas has already issued a fatwa to fight the coalition
           troops. Yesterday, there was a report on ABC news about how those
           trucks with humanitarian aid in the Southern Iraq were being sacked
           by a mob before reaching their destination. I was shocked to hear a
           guy from the crowd yell "We hate Americans!" to a reporter's
           question about what he thinks about Americans. The answer was yelled
           back so odiously that I think he really meant it. And we thought
           that they (specially Shiites in the South) can't wait to be
           liberated from Saddam's regime. However, I changed slightly my
           pessimistic outlook after this was followed by a tragic story where
           a bunch of Iraqi civilians who were traveling in a car were killed
           by the US soldiers who mistook them for terrorists.  After the
           burial, their relatives told that they forgive the soldiers (who by
           the way, offered apologies and also helped to bury the dead) since
           they understand the difficult times they're living in. I thought
           that was very touching.
           \_ If you were some pro-saddam fedayeen you'd take the American
              food and then scream into the camera how you hated Americans,
              too.  Why do you take that stuff so seriously?  Once it's all
              over and the thugs are wiped out and powerless you'll see what
              the Iraqi people think for real, good and bad.

3/29    How did this Iraqi farmer manage to shoot down an Apache helicopter
        a few days ago with his ancient-looking rifle? Is this even possible?
        \_ No.
        \_ It's possible if you listen to Iraqi state owned/run 'media' and
           think it's real.  In the real world, no.  Anyway, the apache is an
           attack helicopter.  It's built to dish out damage and get the hell
           out.  It is not built to survive heavy attack so I'm very pleased
           to hear we only lost 1 or 2 in a direct close up attack like that.
           \_ Given what I am reading in non-US news sources, it seems like
              coalition helicopters are lost in nearly every
              attack/search/rescue operation. Some of those loses are
              non-combat-related but Iraqis did shut down a number of them.
              This is not surprising since they do have the weapons capable
              of that but farmers' rifles certainly don't qualify as such.

3/29    COLUMBIA PROF WISHES DEATH FOR GIs
        http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/33194.htm