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2003/3/26 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:27846 Activity:very high
3/25    The difference between France and the US:  The French "take"
        decisions, as in "they take it up the ass".  Americans "make"
        decisions, as in "we make the dull rusty knife jammed up the French
        ass".
        \_ That's the stupidist thing I've ever heard.  That's the kind of
           joke you'd expect from a kid in Junior High.  Nice try, troll.
           \_ Junior High French covers the difference between "prendre
              une decision" and "faire une decision"?
        \_ Translated:
           Je suis un Americain stupide qui pense que le monde est simple
           et que les gens d'autres pays ne sont pas interessant penser
           environ. Tuez-moi, svp.
           \_ Yep, we Americans are a simple people.  But at least we don't
              roll over and we keep faith with our friends.
              \_ Like Saddam Hussein, to whom we gave approval to invade
                 Kuwait?
                 \_ Uh, this is bullshit
                    \_ Okay, then, like the Iraqis who rose up against
                       Saddam after GW1 because we told them we'd support
                       them militarily?
              \_ "I would rather have a German division in front of me
                 than a French one behind me." - General George S. Patton
        \_ The french-germans-russians are responsible for every major conflict
           since Napoleon.  Together, they have killed tens of millions.  France
           was once a great nation, until all of soldiers and able bodied
           men were killed.  Eventually, the only men left to repopulate
           were the queers and effet expresso sippers of Paris who were
           afraid to fight.  We now see the result.  Much of europe
           is dying, both economically and demographically.
           They will go the way of South America.  There is a reason
           American ancestors left Europe.
           \_ Yes, we went east looking for better hunting grounds.  Then we
              crossed a large icebridge and went south.  Imagine our
              surprise when you bastards came over in your ships.
           \_ It should be French-Germans-Russians-Japanese.
        \_ France has usually been governed by prostitutes.
                - Mark Twain, Notebook #18, Feb.- Sept. 1879
           French are the connecting link between man & the monkey.
                - Mark Twain, Notebook #18, Feb.- Sept. 1879
        \_ The only time the French didn't fight well is during WWII.
           The French fought decently in WWI.  Uncle Ho did kick their
           arse at DBP, but he also kicked our arse, so that's a draw.
        \_ Wrong.. South Vietnam was free for 2 years until the North
           invaded and Democrats refused any foreign intervention.
2003/3/26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:27847 Activity:high
3/25    Does anyone have a "motdbrowse" program that lets you move forward
        and backwards through motd revisions?
        \- what about rcslog? --psb
        \_ /home/apollo/john/Bin/motdbrowse
        \_ co -r<revision> -p ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v | less
2003/3/26 [Reference/Religion, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27848 Activity:nil
3/25    These are the true inheritors of the Babylonian Empire and
        they are responsible for all of the technological advances
        made in the Muslim world since 700 AD.
        Its interesting because some consider Hammurabi's Code of Laws a
        progenitor of Magna Carta.
        Persecuted for centuries, Iraq's Assyrian
        Christians once again wary of their future
        http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?eo20030227a2.htm
2003/3/26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27849 Activity:nil
3/25    Petition Ready: Request Moore go on Hunger Strike
        http://www.petitiononline.com/moore131/petition.html
2003/3/26 [Uncategorized] UID:27850 Activity:nil
3/25    Does this look familiar to anyone? How would I actually run this code:
        filename dotsfile 'host-specific-gfs-file-name' <host-options>;
        proc datasource filetype=imfdotsp infile=dotsfile interval=qtr
                   out=foreign outall=forngvar;
        where country='111' and partner='158';
        run;
2003/3/26 [Uncategorized] UID:27851 Activity:nil
3/25    Halliburton is a HUGE buy right now. This contract win is not small.
        What is interesting is that my dad told me like amonth ago that HAL
        had won the fire contract.. but this message indicates infrastructure.
        That is where all the money is going to be made:http://tinyurl.com/85yc
2003/3/26 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:27852 Activity:nil
3/25    Barkeep, a vodka martini for my laptop:
        http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993539
2003/3/26 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:27853 Activity:nil
3/25    Anyone know if ther are providers that will sell DSL service
        without phone service?  I've had it with AT&T/Comcast. --jwm
2003/3/26 [Uncategorized] UID:27854 Activity:nil
3/25 A new day, let's start with a fresh motd
        \_ No, let us recall just how divided America. It would have been just
           as divided had Gore won.
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                \_ Ah, a vision of the near future!
                \_ It proves it!  Saddam Hussein is Totoro!
2003/3/26 [Uncategorized] UID:27855 Activity:nil
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2003/3/26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27856 Activity:nil
3/26    I was a naive fool to be a human shield for Saddam:
        http://csua.org/u/b78
        \_ a line that sums it all up formt the link, "Jake was so shocked at
           how naive he had been. We all were. It hadn't occurred to anyone
           that the Iraqis might actually be pro-war."  Here we see the inner
           workings of the young leftist: knows better than the poor dumb
           third world 'native peoples' he's trying to "help" because he's a
           smart and powerful Westerner and only he knows what's best for
           them, so he got on a bus to stroke his ego and save the world.
           There's a reason people grow more conservative as they age.  It's
           called "growing up".  Some grow up earlier than others.  Getting on
           a bus to hell and talking to the victims of a Baathist Nazi bastard
           like Hussein can mature some folks a little sooner than normal.
           \_ Huh?  I thought the claim has always been that the Iraqis
              would be pro-war and would rush out in droves to welcome the
              American liberators.
2003/3/26-27 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:27857 Activity:moderate
3/26    In just 30 days of using SpamAssassin, I've noted that it's caught
        160 pieces of spam.  Is that about average, or am I just getting an
        unusually high amount of junk mail?
        \_ since June 2002, on my worst account today I'll pass 20,000 spams
           caught by ifile, or an average of something over 60 per day. -tom
           \_ Ok. I should be thankful with only 5-6/day.
           \_ ifile Q: how do I add to my spam corpus without actually
              keeping a huge file of spam around?
              `ifile.learn.mailbox good $MAIL` starts me off, but is there a
              a way to update that and correct mistakes just by moving a
              message to the right folder?
              \_ http://xtrmntr.org/ORBman/ifile.procmail.html.
                 mutt folder hooks.  -tom
                 \_ I'm the guy who tried mutt and left a bunch of processes
                    using 90% CPU.  Any pine solutions (even if they don't
                    work as well)?
                    \_ do the same thing by hand.  pine resists automation.
                    \_ have two recipes in your .procmailrc:

                        :0: $HOME/.ifile.lock
                        * ^Resent-To:.*myusername\+isspam
                        | ifile.relearn.message inbox spam

                        :0: $HOME/.ifile.lock
                        * ^Resent-To:.*myusername\+isinbox
                        | ifile.relearn.message spam inbox

                       then have two addressbook entries myusername+isspam
                       and myusername+isinbox.  if a message is
                       misdirected, then simply (b)ounce the message to
                       the appropriate address.
                       \_ great idea, thank you.
2003/3/26-27 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:27858 Activity:moderate
3/26    I just upgraded to Bind 9.2.2 and it seems that I can no longer
        get responses from roots a and b (the other root serves work
        fine). I've checked the routing, I can get to a and b, I just
        can't get a response from them. Anyone else have this problem?
        Any suggestions about where to start debugging? tia.
        \_ I had a different problem.  bind8 stopped being able to query
           the root nameservers at all.  So I upgraded to bind9.
           --scotsman
2003/3/26 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:27859 Activity:nil
3/26    If you wonder why people always talk about "ed":
        http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html
2003/3/26 [Uncategorized] UID:27860 Activity:nil
3/26    D00D CH3CK 7H15 0U7:
        http://www.unf-unf.de/hackers.htm
        \_ The first one is mildly amusing; the rest are just stupid.
2003/3/26-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:27861 Activity:high
3/26    UNLINK news: RFP going out this week for uclink replacement, aiming
        at clustered solution--implementation of new service, probably to be
        run by a different group, is planned for this summer.
        \_ Might we finally get a decent email hostname?  <DEAD>cal.edu<DEAD> or <DEAD>ucb.edu<DEAD>.
           C'mon, everybody, pray with me.
           \_ what's wrong with <DEAD>uclink.berkeley.edu<DEAD>?
              \_ if you have to ask...
           \_ There is zero chance we'll change our primary domain name.
              However, it is reasonably likely that we'll have top-level
              "@Berkeley.EDU" names instead of "@uclink.berkeley.edu"
              names.  "Berkeley" is a name with international recognition,
              unlike "cal" or "ucb".  -tom
              \_ Ah callous youth... No respect for the past and ucbvax.
              \_ there's no reason we can't have an MX alias point to
                 http://berkeley.edu.  I agree with the name recognition thing,
                 and that's important, but I'm sick of spelling "berkeley"
                 for people and writing out a long address on forms.
                 <DEAD>Cal.edu<DEAD> would work well in those cases, just like http://csua.org
                 does (or did) for http.
                  \_ I hadn't realized this was available as a mail
                     redirect.  Are we assured that http://csua.org will last as
                     long as the csua exists?  Is http://csua.org owned by the
                     actual csua, and the translation occuring locally?
                     (e.g. not being intercepted and forwarded by another
                     machine?)
                \_ having 2 ways of addressing the <DEAD>.berkeley.edu<DEAD>
                   domain would be stupid and lame.  people who can't
                   spell Berkeley aren't worth your time.
                   \_ it makes a lot more sense than <DEAD>uclink.berkeley.edu<DEAD>,
                      but if we ditched the uclink part I wouldn't mind
                      so much.
              \_ Ah callow youth... No respect for the past and ucbvax.
                 \_ you probably mean "callow".
                    \_ is there ever a non-callow youth?
                       \_ maybe not, but the other guy still fucked up the
                          reference.
                          \_ There. Fixed. Happy?
2003/3/26 [Uncategorized] UID:27862 Activity:high
3/26    I was a naive fool to post the same propaganda story 4 times
        over a period of two weeks.
        \_ No, you made a difference in people's lives.
           \_ Yes, I had booked a plane ticket to go Iraq and thankfully
              read it just in time to come to my senses.
        \_ Which article?
           \_ It's got to be that human shields article. someone really has
              a bug up their ass about that.
        \_ I was a naive fool for picking up peoples' dropped soap in a
           Castro bathhouse.
        \_ I was naive to install Linux.
        \_ ObI was naive to accept aspo's advances.
          \_ come to poppa -aspo
2003/3/26-27 [Uncategorized] UID:27863 Activity:nil
3/26    New CBR600F4i for $8199 or used, 01 model for $5000? What are the
        pros/cons? $3000 difference isn't a big deal for me.
2003/3/26 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27864 Activity:nil
3/26    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/23/fashion/23DIXI.html
        "... the backlash against [The Dixie Chicks] was not a
         spontaneous, widespread outburst, but instead was led
         by a small group of activists, beginning with
         http://Freerepublic.com. ... the phenomenon even has a name
         getting 'freeped,' slang for being deluged with angry
         e-mail messages from users of the site."
        \_ FR gets more traffic than Salon.
        \_ DC were pretty stupid to make such statements given
           where their fan base is.  Freedom of speech extends both
           ways, and those fans are exercising it well.
           \_ yeah, they should just release a punk album.  i'd buy it.
        \_ boo hoo, it sucks when activism goes the other way huh?  like a
           very small number of morons shutting down the financial district
           for the ego boost, the $500k police overtime cost, and to hurt the
           hourly employees who sat in traffic for an extra 2-3 hours instead
           of earning money to feed their kids.  i've got zero sympathy for
           people who mouth off and then whine like babies when they take an
           economic hit for it.  you've got the right to mouth off in this
           country and others have the right to not buy your product, not
           listen to what you say, and do their organised best to shut you
           down.  the left has been doing this for years.  sucks now that it
           goes the other way now, huh?  head/pig/insert.
2003/3/26 [Reference/Religion] UID:27865 Activity:nil
3/26    Hypothetical question:  how many of you would convert to Islam if
        there's a giant sandstorm that buries ALL the advancing US and British
        troops in Iraq?
        \_ never. if they beat the American fighters, i'll fight to the death
           here, or move to a neutral country.
           \_ I don't think you got my point.  A giant sandstorm would be
              a natural disaster.  Allah intervenining the muslim world would
              say.
              \_ ok, or you could interpret that as the christian god taking
                 revenge on people who call themselves christians and
                 commit evil acts.
        \_ Soda conservatives would be jumping on right now if they could
           get out of paying taxes.
        \_ Too late. I'm atheist. Bring on the hate...
        \_ A sandstorm?  Like we can't afford shovels for the army?  WTF?
           \_ weather: see storms.  no precipitation.
              I just hope our troops know to plant a thumper when they
              cross open desert.
2003/3/26-27 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:27866 Activity:high 62%like:10093
3/26    OpenBSD 3.3 Available for Pre-order:
        http://www.openbsd.org/items.html#33
        http://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order
        \_ ISO or nothing baby.
                  \_ jigdo
2003/3/26 [Computer/Rants, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:27867 Activity:nil
3/26    Petition to get India a permanent seat on the UNSC:
        http://www.sulekha.com/un
        \_ what possible benefit would that be to anyone but India?
        \_ I doubt Pakistan would be happy with that.  Do you really want a
           nuclear war in asia?
        \_ How about a petition to re-org the UNSC since it's entirely
           anachronistic and idiotic in today's world as it's formed now?
2003/3/26 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:27868 Activity:nil
3/26    oil well fire animation: http://www.wildwell.com/cap_animation.htm
        oil well fire pictures:
        http://www.wildwell.com/Firefighting/firefighting.htm - danh
2003/3/26 [Industry/Startup] UID:27869 Activity:nil
3/26    HAL isn't moving much.  I'd think that with Cheney funneling Iraqi
        oil contracts to HAL it'd get a bit boost.  But no, the stock is
        trading sideways.
        \_ Everyone's holding their breath to see if HAL gets away with it
           or if people are going to wake up and torch HAL hq.
        \_ get away with what?  there is no other company in
           in the universe with more experience with putting out
           oil well fires after a gulf war, the present and future
           oil well fires need to be extinguished immediately,
           even if the Pentagon had put it all out to bid, Halliburton
           would have won anyway.  can you think of any other company
           in the world with enough experience for this, except
           that tiny Texas company that was in that John Wayne movie? - danh
           \_ Well, there's the Kuwaiti company that first arrived on the
              scene. --dim
              \- well some eastern european companies emerged after the
                 first gulf war, including one that moreor less strapped
                 a MIG engine to a tractor and used it to blow out (smaller)
                 oil fires. --psb
           \_ Halliburton is just going to contract it out to KRB which is
              going to contract it out to Boots and Coots.
              \_ I don't care who they sub-contract it to as long as my man
                 Cheney gets the fat check.
                 \_ I'm against all forms of government corruption but your
                    mindless ranting makes you look like an ignorant kook.
                    Cheney doesn't get a frickin penny from any of this beyond
                    his paycheck for being US VP.  He doesn't have a financial
                    interest in Halliburton or any other company now.
                    \_ Check your facts. Cheney still gets at least $1M
                       annually from HAL...and that's just what's on the
                       books. Your final sentence, though...wow...I mean,
                       there's just no hope for accountability if you really
                       believe that.
                        \_ got a url for the above?
                           \_ Cheney gets money from HAL, but it is just
                              deferred compensation from when he worked
                              there. They are paying his bonus out to him
                              over a number of years rather than all at
                              once. --dim
                              \_ don't bring facts into this.  they said he's
                                 part of some criminal conspiracy to raise
                                 the stock price so he can line his pockets so
                                 it must be so just because.
                    \_ You really believe that?
                       \_ Yes.  Prove it wrong.
                    \_ Yea, he is just helping his old buddies, so they can
                       help him back once he no longer holds the post of VP.
                       \_ Maybe, maybe not.  More likely not given his age and
                          health.
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