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2003/3/20 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:27759 Activity:low
3/20    On one machine, I'm seeing a truncated TERMCAP entry.  Another
        machine with identical /etc/termcap files does not exhibit this
        problem.  If I explicitly set the TERMCAP entry on the first
        machine to the output of what is set on the second machine, it
        still truncates it.  What could cause this?  Both are FreeBSD
        workstations.
        \_ check your dotfiles.
2003/3/20 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:27760 Activity:low
3/20    Is there a way to mask email address from news posting from soda??
        I am getting way too many F(*&^SD(F* spams. thx.
        \_ it should be possible, though, I rarely get spam sent to my
           "usenet" address..
            \_ disagree.  Most of my SPAM is coming from my past USENET
                posts.
        \_ hack your own inews executeable
        \_ this comes from your news reader client. By hackign it you can
           change jsut about every NNRP header EXCEPT for NNTP-POSTING-HOST.
           so yeah, hack your inews executable.
2003/3/20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Server] UID:27761 Activity:nil
3/19    Just in case some of you haven't seen this yet, there is
        a new timing attack on RSA keys:
        http://crypto.stanford.edu/~dabo/papers/ssl-timing.pdf
        OpenSSL advisory is here:
        http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20030317.txt
2003/3/20 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27762 Activity:nil 54%like:27764
3/20    Look out Saddam here comes Optimus Prime:
        http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=3828
2003/3/20 [Computer/Theory] UID:27763 Activity:moderate
3/19    Just in case some of you haven't seen this yet, there are two
        new attacks on RSA in OpenSSL
        1. Timing attack on RSA keys:
           http://crypto.stanford.edu/~dabo/papers/ssl-timing.pdf
           OpenSSL advisory is here:
           http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20030317.txt
        2. Extened Bleichenbacher attack on RSA with PKCS #1 v1.5
           padding:
           http://eprint.iacr.org/2003/052
           The OpenSSL advisory will be here:
           http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20030319.txt
        \_ In English, if I'm a low value target do I have to worry about
           anything?  Is this stuff theoretical or script kiddy quality?
           \_ the dropouts speak!
           \_ Read the Stanford paper.  They have an exploit.  They also say
              which configurations are vulnerable.  Now set up a traffic
              monitor/packet sniffer on your "low value target" home DSL or
              cable box and fire up IRC or something.  Enjoy.  -John
           \_ If you are running HTTPS on your "low value target" I would
              recommend applying the OpenSSL patch that fixes the first
              attack. I wouldn't be as concerned about the second one.
              In any case, if you are running OpenBSD 3.1 or 3.2 there
              are patches available from the usual place.
2003/3/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27764 Activity:high 54%like:27762
3/20    Autobots Roll Out!
        http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=3828
        \_ I hope he's not indicative of the type of ppl in our military
           \_ oh trust me, he is
              \_ why should anyone trust you?
2003/3/20 [Uncategorized/German] UID:27765 Activity:high
3/20    So, this is all just bluster and bluff and you "told us so", right?
        \_ Maybe we can get a bonus and they can also kill off all the stupid
           anti-war protestors. How much is a ticket to baghdad? Maybe the
           army can spare a couple of c130s and drop them off in front of the
           scuds.
        \_ SEIG HEIL!  ein reich, ein volk, ein bush! Toten sie
           die Iraker und nehmen Sie ihr ol!  toten fur den ruhm des homeland!
        \_ must be nice for Wolfowicz to finally get control of the US armed
           forces.
           \_ Hmm i wonder what ethnicity he is.
        \_ Let's see what happens later -- original "told you so" poster
2003/3/20 [Computer/SW/Apps, Politics] UID:27766 Activity:nil 56%like:27882
3/20    CNN close caption IRC channel, EFNet (try
        the server <DEAD>irc.he.net<DEAD> from Soda, sirc
        is a fun irc client), channel #CNN-LIVE
2003/3/20 [Computer/Rants, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:27767 Activity:high
3/20    http://www.techsunite.org/news/techind/offshoring1.cfm
        drop CS while you can!
        \_ We got too many h1b visas out there to make offshoring
           really viable. If you want to solve of the problems
           first cut down on the immigrants. We earlier immigrants
           don't need the competition.
           \_ Sink or swim, white boy!
                \_ Guess who built this country.
                   \_ uh, immigrants?
        \_ Coders of America Unite!
           \_ Yeah, why don't you join a union, start a lobby, and buy
              some politicians to get anti-competitive laws passed?
              the irony of watching a bunch of cs-libertarian-dickheads
              turn to these methods would be priceless.
              \_ I thought geeks were Gore voters...that is,
                 stereotypically.
                 \_ uh...do you read the motd?  most people here are
                    either to the left of Gore or to the right of
                    Bush.
                    \_ that's what makes it so exciting!
                 \_ Of course!  Without Gore inventing the internet, there
                    wouldn't have been a dot-com boom and we wouldn't have been
                    getting six-figure salaries for monkey-coding.
                    \_ some of us earn it.  also your 6 figs is nothing next
                       to the hundreds of millions or even billions that
                       many ceo's have gotten for killing companies.
              \_ So, since you don't like all those cs-libertarian-dickheads,
                 how would you describe YOUR political leanings?
2003/3/20-21 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:27768 Activity:high
3/20    anywhere to get an SSH2 client, someone just stole my SSH 1 since
        i am using teratermpro and ssh for it (ie: a friend stole it)
        \_ putty is a free ssh client for Windows.
        \_ http://software.berkeley.edu or http://www.ssh.com if you're not a student
        \_ stole it?
        \_ huh? I thought teratermpro is free at first place.
2003/3/20 [Computer/Networking] UID:27769 Activity:nil
3/20    Cisco buys Linksys:
        http://news.com.com/2100-1035-993457.html?tag=fd_top
2003/3/20-21 [Reference/History/WW2/Japan] UID:27770 Activity:insanely high
3/20    How did we manage to miss Hussein despite a rain of 3 dozens missles
        and then a 2000lb bomb over his head?
        \_ 1) who said he's alive? 2) because it took hours from the time
           the decision was made to the time they could get anything in the
           air and then it had to get there.  if he's alive he might not even
           have still been there, if he was there at all, when the missiles
           were launched.
        \_ Body Double. He wasn't really where we thought he was. Just a
           guess.
        \_ As has been said over and over.  Bombs are good at destroying
           equipment or fortifications, they really aren't that good at i
           killing poeple.  That is why you can't take a city by bombing it
           unless you are willing to pull a Dresden on it.
           \_ Hey, you are implying what we pulled on Dresen is wrong,
                that is not cool.  We need to support our troops.
           \_ Bombing is great at killing people, it's just difficult to
              target a specific person. You're confusing statistics vs.
              efficacy.
              \_ Not really. How many tons of bombs were dropped/casualty
                 in the London Blitz? During the bombing of North Vietnam?
                 In Serbia? Bombing from the air is only really good at
                 terrorizing a population.
                 \_ Civilians weren't the targets in those.  The Blitz was more
                    PR than anything else.
                 \_ Well, no.  Bombing is GREAT at taking out specific
                    hardened targets, scattering large troop concentrations
                    (ie, hindering organized ground operations), and
                    suppression of enemy troop movement.  As a method of
                    wiping out a population, then yeah -- it's nearly useless.
                    But saying bombing is 'only really good at terrorizing...'
                    is just outright wrong.                  -mice
                    \_ And bridges, fuel depots, ammo dumps, runways, etc....
                 \_ Last time I checked, we managed to kill roughly 300k
                    in Tokyo.  We managed to kill another 300k more
                    in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  I tend to think bomb are
                    great at killing people, as we have done so well in
                    in the past.  (though Japanese managed to did the same,
                    without using bombs).
        \_ Where would Saddam be sleeping at the end of the 48hr deadline?
           In one of his buddy's basements next to the washing machine?
           How about ... something designed to resist bunker buster
           munitions, since he's had all since 1991 to prepare for it ...
           \_ Maybe he's already out of the country after undergoing heavy
              plastic surgery. He's probably enjoying Spring Break in Cancun
              alongside Bin Laden doing Girls Gone Wild videos witn Snoop.
              \_I think I agree with u.
                \_ All he'd have to do is trim his mustache.
           Nukes, now -- that's a different story!
           \_ YEAH!!  FU|< TH0Z3 S4NDNIGG3R T0W31H34D B4574RDZ!!!!  IF
              7H3Y'R3 4LL D34D, W3 G37 4LL 7H3 01L!!!1!
              \_ Yeah it's all about oil.  Oil we easily could have bought for
                 less money and hassle than the cost of a war.  Makes sense.
                 It's all about oil.  I understand that now.  Gore'04!
2003/3/20-21 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley] UID:27771 Activity:high
3/20    Stuck in the City today?
        http://csua.org/u/b39 (SFGate article on today's protests)
        \_ I'm in the city today.  Hardly stuck.  It's just silly.  It's
           amazing how ~2000 people sitting in just the right set of
           intersections can bring downtown to a near halt.  Dumping news
           stands and chanting random shit like it matters.
                  \_like you matter.
           \_ like you matter.  [formatd even though you're a knucklehead]
              \_ knucklehead, I never said I mattered.  neither do they.
           \_ I've got word from a friend that there are some pretty amusing
              riots happening.  He's going to take pictures and to buy
              fajitas from Taco Bell to give to the cops in riot gear.
              \_ It's ok.  Nothing special.  I've seen Berkeley riots that were
                 far better in all ways.  Mostly it's a bunch of mindless kids
                 who are taking the day off HS.  I know a good riot when I
                 see one and this wasn't it.
                 \_ Heh, Berkeley riot = chance to loot the Gap.  There's
                    no real activism in Berkeley any more.
                    \_ There wasn't much real activism in the city today either
                       where I was (market and parts of 3rd).  It was mostly
                       HS kids dumping over news stands to block the streets
                       and then they'd stand on them and take pictures of the
                       crowd while yelling random stuff and the crowd would
                       take pictures of them.  It was just silly.
2003/3/20-21 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:27772 Activity:nil
3/20    I'm converting from slocal to procmail on soda and I'm wondering
        if I need my .forward to invoke procmail or will sendmail do that
        automatically (and reliably) if I just have a .procmailrc file? tia.
        \_ .procmailrc is all you need (on soda at least).
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