Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2003:March:15 Saturday <Friday, Sunday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2003/3/15 [Uncategorized] UID:27701 Activity:high
3/14    Friday Humor:
        \_ this was so last Friday.
2003/3/15 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:27702 Activity:very high
3/14    Are the fields stack-allocated structs initialized to zero? (C++)
        \_ Nope.  But, like C, you can always write MyStruct s = { };
           to declare a struct s and zero-initialize it.  --mconst
           \_ What is the difference between this and:
              I usually use memset, but I'd rather use something else
              that involves less typing if it accomplishes the same
              \_ There's no difference at all, unless you're on a weird
                 machine that doesn't store zero values as all bits zero;
                 gcc compiles the two to the exact same code.  --mconst
                 \_ Thanks.
                 \_ it's not so weird for null pointers to be non-zero, is it?
                    uncommon, but not unheard of.
              \_ I believe memset will work with heap-alloc'ed memory
                 but "= { }" will not.  man bzero, it's a little bit
                 less typing.
                 \_ I'd use bzero, but it is deprecated on Linux and
                    other platforms.
                 \_ of course the "= { }" won't work on heap allocated memory,
                    because you can only initialize structures like that when
                    they're declared, and declared variables are stored on the
           \_ thanks, glad to know this now.
2003/3/15-16 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:27703 Activity:high
        It's true.  Why can't he say it without them coming down on him and
        ruining his career?  What are they afraid of?
        \_ Compare and contrast to how Lott was treated.  Moran is a Dem.
           \_ Lott lost his position of leadership but kept his seat.  Now
              Moran has lost his position of leadership but kept his seat.
              He got lambasted in the "What the hell were they thinking"
              section on "Washington Week" on PBS yesterday, just like Lott.
              What's the contrast, aside from Lott having a cooler position
              to lose?
              \_ The difference is what Lott said was vicious and evil.  What
                 Moran said is simply the truth they're trying to suppress.
                 \_ Lott was simply giving accolades to Strom Thurmond.  His
                    comment was completely neutral - but the race baiters,
                    apparently like yourself, took it an ran for political
                    gain.  Nevertheless, I was glad to see him go because
                    he was completely ineffectual.
                    he was completely ineffectual.  Let's not forget the
                    South was solidly democrat until the past two decades.
                    Thurmond was a democrat when he ran for President.
                    \_ Either way, the parties should throw out people like
                    Lott. These racist bigots were first hiding out in the
                    Democratic party, now the Republican party. It's time
                    that neither party should support idiots like this.
        \_ Yeah, I mean look at all the shit that Byrd gets away with.
        \_ Lott is now currently chair on a pretty fucking scary committee
           having to do with security and homeland defense policies.  Can
           we say Jim Crow II?  Well i guess southern white guys must be
           happy now.
           \_ Yeah, this will happen. Just as likely as time travel. Can we
              look FORWARD and not backwards without making stupid comparisons?
           \_ Aren't they happy after they fingerbang their sister?
              \_ But now they're more righteous when they do it.
        \_ Didn't a Republican Senator say this very same thing last week?
           \_ no.
           \_ most likely, but he didn't happen to be on camera at the time.
2003/3/15 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27704 Activity:nil
3/15    I have an aic7xxx scsi card for my scanner and an ide cd burner that
        is using ide-scsi emulation in linux. unfortunately, both of these
        devices attach themselves to scsi host 0. Whichever one I use fist
        works at the expense of the other. I can not find out a way to
        specify host0 for one and host1 for the other.  Any suggestions for
        a way to specify which scsi host#?  Also, I don't load the aic7xxx
        module at bootup, because I don't use it everyday. (I'd prefer the
        aic7xxx host to be scsi1). Thanks.
2003/3/15-16 [Health/Disease/General] UID:27705 Activity:moderate
3/15    "Mystery Flu Virus Infects 11 More in HK, S'pore"
        \_ Are the people infected Caucasian? If so, it could be "Yellow
           Fever"! There are lots of H07 4ZN CH1X in HK S'pore which might
           bring on such outbreaks.
        \_ I'm surprised that aaron hasn't said anything yet
2003/3/15-16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27706 Activity:low
3/15    Very interesting program from
        It explains why USA is sure Iraq has the know-how to build Atomic
        \_ "They fucking looked at the receipts, duh." - B. Hicks.
           (valid then, valid quote now).
        \_ Virus warning.  The uninfected original is at,
           but it uses real player, which will try to put advert loaders in
           your startup.
           \_ what is the name of the virus? how do i know i got infected
              or not? (norton antivirus already running)
        \_ Iraq has blood agents and nerve gas, but isn't close to nukes.
           \_ Dead is dead, thanks.  And how do *you* know they aren't close
              to nukes?  And even if true, you know why?  Because the damned
              jews killed their french built nuke plant.  that's why.
                \_ Arthur Kent, AKA the Skud Stud from GW1, has a History
                   Channel special on this coming up soon.
                   \_ Any relation to Clark Kent, AKA the Man of Steel?  Quest
                      for Peace anyone?  Maybe a quality respirator instead?
2003/3/15-17 [Uncategorized/German] UID:27707 Activity:nil
        \_ they're filming the latest installment of "sysadmins gone wild"
           \_ Isn't that like "Germany's Most Disturbing Home Videos"
              Entry #1?
              \_ Proviing that old bavarian saying about und shprinkler.
        \_ The last thing I need is filmed proof of my slackitude.
2003/3/15-16 [Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:27708 Activity:kinda low
3/15    IF you are gay in a public school in Arkansas Look The Fuck Out
        \_ or "Watch Your Ass".  heh, heh.
        \_ uhm yeah like this is news, duh.  and not just in arkansas either.
2003/3/15-16 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:27709 Activity:high
        "If it were not for the strong support of the Jewish community for
        this war with Iraq, we would not be doing this."
        \_ is it really necessary to have two motd threads on this topic
           at the same time?
        \_ Jews should fight their own wars, it's nearly time the started.
           \_ yes, because the next point is "Did anyone see the dateline
              on NBC where they talked about how ashcroft && his zionistic
              party have been trying to get a "friendly" white house adminis.
              since the early 80s?  And now we have to take an in increasing
              "fight israel's wars for them" stance as part of what is now
              called the "Bush Doctrine".
        \_ Jews should fight their own wars, it's nearly time they started.
           and without any "aid".
           \_ J00s 0wn0rz j00!
           \_ that aid is the only thing keeping israel from crushing all
              their neighbors who want them dead.  they did just fine without
              any aid for several decades.  as a pro-zionist i think they'd
              be better off not selling their souls for american money and
              doing unto their enemies what their enemies have been trying to
              do to them for more than half a century.
            \_ Isreal was the focal point for the Cold War in the Middle East.
               All of the conflicts were, at least in part, proxy wars
               between the US and the Soviets.
        \_ ok, ok, let's just get it over with (again): we all hate jews.
           there.  doesn't that feel better to just say it?  i know i feel
           better about hating jews now.  you should too.
        \_ People forget that France did aid the fledgling state of Israel with
           fighter jets first.
        \_ I don't think Israel would go on a crushing rampage if we
           cut all our aid to them.  Their economy right now is a bunch
           of crap and they have a couple of million impoverishered
           Palestinians with little to no economic future camped
           right next door.
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