Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2003:March:13 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2003/3/13 [Computer/HW/Display] UID:27676 Activity:nil
3/12    Any recommendations in a Flat Screen LCD monitor with
        an adjustable brightness lamp? Are any of them digital-in
        (i.e. non-VGA) and work with linux/XFree86.
2003/3/13 [Computer/HW/IO] UID:27677 Activity:moderate
3/12    Anyone using a wireless keyboard and mouse under Linux? What are
        some good ones? --dim
        \_ why would OS matter? don't go reaching and making up shit either.
           \_ most wireless stuff doesn't work with BSD.
2003/3/13 [Uncategorized] UID:27678 Activity:nil
3/12    What is a good starting pay rate for a recent graduate now in CS?
        Any comment... Or are they able to find jobs at all?
        \_ Mid 70s.
2003/3/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:27679 Activity:low
3/12    Anyone have any idea of how to open a lot of tabs in mozilla
        automatically? (I have a javascript function that calls lots
        of calls for my "morning news read" that I would
        like to have in mozilla as tabs instead of separate windows).
        \_ phoenix does somethijng like this
        \_ "Bookmark this group of tabs" under the Bookmark menu.
2003/3/13 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:27680 Activity:moderate
3/12    What is the best method for securely updating the contents of
        file (unix/c)?
        What I've got right now is open() then mkstemp() and copy the
        bits from the old fd to the fd from mkstemp() and finally call
        rename(). I've specified O_RDONLY|O_EXLOCK, which should prevent
        two instances of the process from colliding, but I'm concerned
        that the call to rename() may not be "safe". TIA.
        \_ what is your definition of "secure"?  What's wrong with more
           obvious methods?
           \_ race conditions.
        \_ rename is atomic. what you describe should work fine. --aaron
2003/3/13 [Uncategorized] UID:27681 Activity:nil
3/12    Lech Walesa supports the war:
2003/3/13 [Computer/Companies/Yahoo, Recreation/Media] UID:27682 Activity:high
3/13    SETI@home made Yahoo Headlines!
        \_ Yahoo?  When it makes ABC/CBS/NBC during prime time lemme know.
        \_ Expect this to be deleted.
           \_ Still waiting.
                \_ Here, I'm deleting it: kkkkkkk8ddZZ
                \_ It will be as soon as one of three people logs in.  The
                   typical deleters aren't awake yet... slackers!
                   \_ Actually the thread was deleted.  It was some
                      political nonsense. -waiter
2003/3/13 [Politics/Domestic] UID:27683 Activity:nil
        for the UN lovers among us
        \_ It's too bad that the UN and its legitimacy seem bound to the
           notion of liberal or convservative; republican or democrat.  The
           UN is a terrible holdover from the previous century -- with no
           checks, balances or accountability.
        \_ Expect this to be deleted.
           \_ Still waiting.
2003/3/13-14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:27684 Activity:moderate
        Not that we have any students in the csUa, but what's up w/ uclink?
        \_ The system was down, yo!  Seriously though, unlink fucked up.
           Unlink go boom, mail lost, etc., etc.
           \_ No shit.  It's run by university know-nothings.  What'd everyone
              expect?  Professionally run systems?
              \_ Right, did you have a question there, or were you just
                 trying to restate the comment you are commenting on?
                 \_ It's called a comment.  Last I checked people are allowed
                    to add their own comments to the motd.  Also, a quick check
                    with your English P teacher will help you to see I wasn't
                    restating the previous comment, but was adding my opinion
                    stating for the first time that the problem is moronic and
                    unprofessional government admins.
                    \_ Yes, you are allowed to add comments to the motd.  And
                       I am allowed to add comments of my own lambasting you
                       for your comments' lack of content.  And check with
                       your English teacher, you have a dangling participle
                       in your most recent comment.
                       \_ My comment has content.  You're allowed to disagree
                          with my comment but you'd be wrong to state that
                          there isn't content.  Thanks.
                          \_ Content free comment.
        \_ "Students who are concerned that they may have missed deadlines
           or lost academic material because of the system failure are
           urged to talk to their instructors to make alternative
           arrangements." (uclink ate my homework)
           \_ Because they don't do backups.
2003/3/13 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:27685 Activity:nil
3/12    Beijing plans to use North Korea to help drive the US
        out of the Pacific - courtesy of FR
        \_ The author is truly a man ahead of his time.
2003/3/13 [Politics/Domestic/911, Computer/SW/Security] UID:27686 Activity:very high
        "Much of the information on Mohammed's laptop computer was protected
        by an encryption code that CIA analysts cracked easily, U.S.
        intelligence officials said."  It was probably RSA or PGP.  What else
        is he likely to have used?  Something from MS?
        \_ They threated to kill his preteen kids if he didn't give them
           the password.
           \_ Damn those unsecure end nodes.
        \_ Microsoft Visual ROT13++
           \_ Microsoft Active Visual 2ROT13#.
              \_ Be sure to download the first three patches and upgrade
                 before using. The fourth patch allows you to encrypt, but
                 won't decrypt non-MS ROT13 encryptions. They are still working
                 on it...
                 \_ This stuff is getting so old it's not even funny anymore.
                     \_ This stuff is still funny, because it is still
                        the case, despite how long it has been the case.
        \_ Any system in which the key is shorter than the message is an
           inherently weak system. The only one "safe" encryption system
           is OTP (and even that is not safe if you have your own Guardian
           of Forever)
           \_ Guardian of Forever?  Is this some nerdy book/tv/movie reference?
              \_ Here's a cookie for you.
                 \_ I'm serious.  What is it?
                    \_ Watch TOS Ep. 28.
                        \_ so what the fuck is TOS?
                           \_ You do realize that no one is obligated to
                              answer your question, yes?
                           \_ Your geekdom passport has been revoked.
                              \_ 'cause we all know jocks r00l.
                              \_ oh no!  What WILL I do?  Oh that's right,
                                 have a life.  Never mind.
                                 \_ Sorry, but we don't buy it.  You've
                                    already proven you have no life by
                                    posting here.
2003/3/13-14 [Computer/SW/Graphics] UID:27687 Activity:moderate
3/13    This is a bit obscure and I've obGoogled to no avail: I'm trying to
        get opengl SGI apps to display on my cygwin box but the sgi side
        complains that it can't find in any paths.  Any ideas? Thanks!
        \_ Does it work on the local SGI machine?  Sometimes openGL stuff
           is installed in its own subdirectory which isn't searched by
           default.  Try man ldconfig (might not work for SGI though).
           \_ works perfectly on the sgi.  I can redirect the DISPLAY and get
              non-opengl stuff working easily.  I can't get anything that uses
              opengl on the sgi to work on a remote display.  Won't show up
              on my Solaris box either for the same reason.
              \_ Don't you need OpenGL installed on your cygwin box? The
                 X server isn't going to know what to do with those OpenGL
                 function calls. I know that an app that we developed
                 requires OpenGL installed even when it is run remotely.
                 \_ yes this is correct.  in fact it is often nice to run
                    opengl programs from a fast computer on a display with
                    fast opengl.  sgi offers a program called vizserver,
                    however, that will let you send the actual frames over
                    a remote connection.  you need it installed on both ends.
                 \_ Ok I figured it was something like this and my cygwin is a
                    complete install of everything and seems to already have
                    a bunch of opengl files but not the one the sgi wants.  I
                    tried copying&renaming opengl.* to libgl.* into the path
                    the sgi wanted and no-go.  Maybe I really don't have opengl
                    installed or I need some option to XWin.exe to get it to
                    load.  Any more hints in this direction?  Thanks!
2003/3/13 [Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:27688 Activity:high
3/13    Republican legislator proves Holocaust caused by Gay Nazi's:
        \_ mmm, gay nazis
        \_ wow
2003/3/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:27689 Activity:high
3/13    Can anyone think of any benefits of IE6 over Mozilla other than
        the more-easily-customizable toolbars in IE6?
        \_ javascript stuff doesn't always work in mozilla
           \_ wrong jscript stuff doesn't always work. javascript works.
              \_ whatever.
        \_ If you are one of those people who belive that
           the fact that IE6 doesn't have tabs is a benefit.
           \_ Those can be turned off
           \_ What complaints do people have with tabbed browsing?
                \_ It violates some bs hci rules or something.
                   Some usability drone at work was telling me
                   how tabbed browsing just ruins "workflows".
                   \_ He's an idiot.  It's much better than opening a whole
                      new window for each of 20 links on a page I'd like to
                      see.  Shoot that stupid bastard.  He's some dotcom
                   \_ He's an idiot.  It's much better than
                      opening a whole new window for each of 20
                      links on a page I'd like to see.  Shoot
                      that stupid bastard.  He's some dotcom
                        \_ Worse. He's an academic fossil with
                           a CS PhD in HCI and a whole list of
                           worthless papers and standards that
                           he is the author/co-author of.
                           \_ Oh God... save us all!  Kill him now!
           \_ tabbed browsing is a god send.
              \_ I never used it. Why is it so great? Isn't it just that you
                 several open pages as "tabs"? Why is that better than just
                 having several open browser windows?
                 \_ Just try it. It's much easier than chasing windows
                    all over the place.
                 \_ It's kind of like virtual desktops. You can "group"
                    certain topics. Like I have one browser full of tabs
                    that is work-related stuff, and one that isn't. --aaron
                 \_ I thought exactly the same until I used it.  It's hard to
                    describe but here's an example: I go to a site that has a
                    lot of links from one page such as google, slashdot, cnn,
                    or other news sites.  I can single click open 20+ tabs and
                    they load in the background while I continue looking for
                    other things on the same page I want to read.  When I'm
                    done I can then start reading through those tabs.  The
                    non-tabbed way would have 20+ windows fucking up my screen
                    and on some/most platforms force me to reclick the first
                    page to bring it back to the top each time.  Also, one
                    click and the whole browser goes to the taskbar.  Non-tabs
                    means 20+ clicks.  It's better.  Try it.  You'll like it.
        \_ just discovered that the toolbars are even nicer/easier to
           customize in mozilla with phoenix installed... -OP
           \_ but phoenix also breaks lots of other nice features :(
              \_ like?
                \_ phoenix 0.5 doesn't support the google search in the
                   address bar, nor the group bookmark open in tabs that
                   I was originally seeking...  Maybe .6 will.  I can't
                   believe they have to change the name b/c someone else
                   trademarked phoenix?!?!? seems bizarre... -OP
                   \_ the nightly build has working google search, even
                      better because if you just type a phrase in the URL
                      bar it does a feeling lucky search. --aaron
        \_ better support for plugins.  maybe it is insecure for morons but
           I like being able to just say "yes, dl the plugin" in a dialog box
           that pops up (or never bother me aboutthis plugin again) and just
           have it work.  And since I'm not a moron it isn't a big deal.
           \_ is there a test of some sort to determine one's moron status?
              \_ yes.  the motd.  you've failed.
                 \_ Am I a moron?
2003/3/13-14 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:27690 Activity:low
3/13    In all these pictures of military guys lately, the soldiers have
        have a backwards American flag patch on their arm.
        What's that all about? Symbolize anything?
           The last question.
           \_ Someone ought to tell Old Navy that it has been
              violating Section 8d for the last 5 or so years.
        \_ It's so the Iraqi's can see it facing the right way in their
           rear view mirrors as they flee.
        \_ omg! you're right! someone notify the pentagon.
        \_ It's a secret message from the skull and bones crowd
           to the novus ordo seculorum people.
           \_ you got it.  this is why the bank of England flys their flag
              backwards also.
              \_ especially when the wind is in the wrong direction.
2019/01/20 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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