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Not surprising that we've been spying on the other members of the
security council, but it still sucks.
\_ you do remember what happened to that plane that crashed while
spying on China, right?
\_ or China spying on the U.S. stealing our nuclear and other
technological secrets.
\_ wait a second... please tell me you're not talking about
that one Chinese scientist guy who got arrested for "stealing
secrets"
\_ Champion of human right. That scientist was shackled from
waste down, in a solitary confinement 23 hours a day for
9 month before he was released on the ground of lack of
evidence.
\_ Get it right. Only some of the charges were dropped.
He is still guilty of some serious offenses. For
someone who betrayed America he was treated very
very well.
\_ SOMEHOW China got schematics for one of our nuclear warhead
designs. It might not have been Wen Ho Lee, but someone,
somewhere either was very stupid or sold us out. --PeterM
\_ still, it's not an excuse for lock up people based
upon his nation of origins... despite that it is
part of American's tradition and the cornerstone
which this nation is build upon.
\_ Yeah, just like the design of gunpowder, years ago.
\_ Gun powder chemistry and nuclear chemistry
are vastly different. Gun power can be made
at home using stuff that occurs naturally in
most parts of the earth.
\_ technology is technology. it may look simple
in the hindsight.
\_ You are either funny or humorous, but not both,
both of you.
\_ Every country with the resources spies on every other country they
can afford to spy on. To think otherwise is naive and childish.
This isn't the playground where little bobbie looked inside little
jennies lunchbag and stole her cookie.
\_ That's filthy!
\_ No, this is worse. It's bad enough that we're spying on members
of the Security Council, but it's unforgiveable that we're
incompetent enough to get caught at it. We're supposed to be
the sole remaining World Power, and we can't even bug phones
without a leak?
\_ Did you even read the article? The NSA wasn't caught
\_ What part of "without a leak" didn't you get?
in the act. Rather some traitorous coward leaked a
classified memo to the press. BTW, why shouldn't we
be spying on the countries that make up the sec.
council or any other country? Most of these nations
wouldn't hesitate to stick it to America given the
chance.
\_ get out of American and travel around the world.
you will then learn America is not as popular as
you would think.
\_ I have traveled in Europe and Asia. So what
if a bunch of people living in conditions
barely fit to be called civilized don't like
America. Who fricking cares?!? Just because
they've got a flag, a parliment and a bunch
of bureaucrats grown fat on bribes isn't any
reason for the finest nation in the history
of this world to yeild to their worthless
opinions.
\_ This is kind of attitude along with
what US's action which reflect such
attitude, are the reason why other
nations hates America. And remember,
there was point in time we don't care about
Pakistein and Afghanistein. You will be
suprised sometimes how much these
people, who barely consistutes as
civilization as you described, can be
either helpful or debilitatingly harmful.
\_ And that makes it right to listen in on their phone
conversations and email to determine which way they're
going to vote on a resolution the Pres. says isn't
necessary anyway? Look up the word "ethics."
\_ Can you be so naive to think that
we can trust the other members of
the security council? Except for
the UK, none of the other permanent
or temporary members can be considered
trustworthy. It is in the best interest
of this nation to know what the hell
those fools are upto at all times.
When you swim with sharks...
\_ We're the most powerful nation
on earth, and we have the most
extensive intelligence network
in the world, and we're using that
to figure out whether six fence-
sitters are going to back a war
we pretend we can wage w/o their
support are going to vote with
us or not? Pshaw on your shark
analogy.
\_ You sound like Jimmy Cartah, aka mr. ethics,
and CIA Director Stansfield Turner.
Based on their sucess in North Korea, Iran
and Nicaragua, maybe you should reconsider
your position.
\_ whoever deleted my post... fuck *YOU*
next time, be a man and try to some up
with something to counter my arguement
instead of being a fucking chicken
\_ Nicaragua? You mean the country that
fairly and freely elected a socialist
government over our objections? I'd
consider Nicaragua a victory despite
our best intentions. |