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| 2003/2/17 [Computer/SW/OS] UID:27436 Activity:nil |
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| 2003/2/17 [Science/Biology] UID:27437 Activity:nil |
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| 2003/2/17-18 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:27438 Activity:very high |
2/17 Still want to know what is up with all the SUV drivers on their way
to SF with "no blood for oil signs" who don't know how to use BART.
\_ Uhm, maybe they're people that are willing to deal with the
consequences of their politics and pay the higher cost of
gasoline & etc?
\_ Maybe they don't drive very often. What's the difference between
an SUV driver who bikes to work and only drives on the weekends
their cars on my way home with signs and all.
and a hybrid owner who does 40+ miles each way every day?
\_ Given who I was looking at, I strongly doubt they owned bikes.
Also, the BART parking lot was full and I saw folks getting into
their cars on my way home with signs and all. And I said they
"don't know how to use BART". At all. They bike to the city?
Or maybe it was their first time there, ever? Yeah. Sure.
\_ I know cyclists who own SUVs.
\_ And?
\_ And they can bike to the city.
\_ From the East bay?
\_ Bay Bridge Bicycle Commuter Shuttle
http://www.transitinfo.org/Bikes/BayBridgeShuttle.html
\_ Maybe they work in the South Bay where there's no BART and
they commute on Light Rail?
\_ Getting really desperate huh? See below about the moon,
cheese, and clouds with silver linings.
\_ And they only travel for work and live in the bay area and
never go to SF and never go anywhere BART might go. Right.
\_ So are you saying you know by heart how to ride the
Light Rail and the Caltrain and the Amtrak, because you
living in the Bay Area must imply that you must have at
least once been to one of the places that each of these
transit systems serve, right? BTW, even for people
working in SF, AC Transit and Alameda/Oakland Ferry run
many transbay routes during commute hours, which you
absolutely already know how to ride too, right?
\_ Really, it's a nice effort, but no points on this
one. You're just flailing and thrashing now.
\_ Whatever you say. BART is not the only public
transit option in the Bay Area.
\_ I say you continue to blatantly ignore what
I've said when it doesn't fit your world view
and make up random "maybes" that have nothing
to do with anything in a bizarre attempt to
justify something to yourself.
\_ My so-called "gas guzzler" SUV does 25MPG freeway and I take the
extra time and effort to park-and-ride to work, while a friend's
Mercedes mid-size *sedan* does 19MPG freeway and he drives to work.
Yet nobody picks on such sedan drivers.
\_ What do you expect from those replete with cognitive dissonance.
\_ I don't think that phrase means what you think it means.
\_ 25mpg? What year/model? This'll be good.
\_ '96 Jeep Cherokee 5-sp manual, and I don't speed cuz speeding
wastes a lot of gas.
\_ That's not an SUV. Yermom would be proud of you though.
\_ this whole thing is a pathetic strawman. -tom
\_ Is not! (like how I backed my point as well as you did yours?)
\_ the point of a strawman argument is to get people to
argue about irrelevancies, which is why I won't. -tom |
| 2003/2/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:27439 Activity:high |
2/17 It was only 1 line of perl to reverse the motd back. Isn't it a
squishable offense to run scripts over the motd?
\_ not since paolo (then CSUA president) did it. -tom
\_ Was he impeached?
\_ no, the politburo totally ignored it.
\_ if it were, then you wouldn't be allowed to use 1 line of perl to
change it back. what if the original offender didn't use a script?
what if he used a text editor that had some "reverse everything"
command? where do you draw the line? what if he changed it all
manually?
\_ I think both you and the OP need to reread the csua FAQ.
\_ I just read it. Does this mean that if my political motd
rant keeps disappearing, I can mail root and ask them
to squish the remover if they've done it three times?
\_ no because we don't agree with your politics so you have
no right to any form of free expression. only people who
agree with us have that right.
\_ My mistake. That user policy rule seems to imply
that you need to nuke the whole motd, not just portions.
Selective deletion, by script or manually, should be
fine.
\_ what if the moon were made of cheese? what if it rains kittens
and puppies instead of water? what if god got hir position
through affirmative action and the peter principle? what if
the silver lining around clouds was really made of silver?
\_ One line of csh command:
co -p ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v | comm -13 /etc/motd.official - >
/etc/motd.public
\_ It's not the same. Not nearly as fun. And certainly not
portable to other motd based systems.
\_ It's a squishable offense to have a script automatically run
on the motd. Well, it was, back in the Second Age, when I was
young. -geordan
\_ geordan, you're still young. --erikred |
| 2003/2/17 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:27440 Activity:high |
2/17 Why are we letting a Stanford PoliSci prof/provost tell us about the
need to go to war with Iraq? For that matter, have you taken a look
at Rumsfeld, Cheney, and G.W. Bush?
\_ at least we can rest assured that she was hired completely on
her merit since we know how much gwb hates affirmative action
\_ You'd prefer a Hayward BA in sociology, maybe? Weak troll.
\_ If you are so intelligent what is your solution? You are
a sanctimonious pacifist when you simply stand for
the do-nothing alternative.
We saw where this got us the past administration. Its the
reason we are this situation today.
\_ Seriously, please don't feed the trolls.
\_ I'd be happier if I didn't feel like I were trolling. |
| 2003/2/17-18 [Uncategorized] UID:27441 Activity:kinda low |
2/17 A decade of stupor breeds anxious times
http://csua.org/u/96f
\_ An Op-Ed piece from the Seattle Times blaming the Clinton
Administration for the current state of the world. (If you're
going to use a URL-shortener, tell us something about your link.) |
| 2003/2/17-18 [Uncategorized] UID:27442 Activity:nil |
2/17 I've been doing some research on a decent digital mic.
Requirements: >=1 hr (>2 preferred) recording, usb or serial hookup,
under $100, preferably closer to $60. Any recommendations?
The MiVoice is $80, RCA has a DVR for $60. |
| 2003/2/17-18 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/HW/Display] UID:27443 Activity:low |
2/17 Is there a way to tell if my display in FreeBSD is true color or
pseudocolor? A binary I'm trying to run depends on it.
\_ /usr/X11/bin/xdpyinfo, then look for your screen #.
\_ xwininfo used to give the info too but i dont use X anymore so hey |
| 2003/2/17-18 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:27444 Activity:very high |
2/17 Does WinME or Win2K Home Ed require less CPU power and memory? Thanks.
\_ cpu/memory? That's the basis of your OS decision? ME is a flaming
pile of goose dung. Use 2k. There was never a reason for ME to
ship except maybe MS's bottom line.
\_ Yeah. I'm setting up a PC for my wife, and all she does is
running Excel and checking her Outlook mail in a browser over a
modem. Any non-Windoze OS is out of the question. So it all
comes down to which Windoze launches Excel faster and which one
opens a huge .xls file faster, which I think translates to which
Windoze leaves more free memory and CPU cycles behind. The only
other requirement is USB support because I need it to talk to a
digicam, otherwise I'll just go 95. Come to think of it, maybe
98 is my best bet.
\_ Except that opening excel really fast, and then crashing five
minutes before your wife goes to whack the Save button
probably would be suboptimal. Go with 2K. Any PC made in
the last TWO YEARS is fast enough (TM). RAM is dirt cheap.
Drop a gig of RAM in and never worry about it again. -dans
\_ The go with win2k people are right. but if you really want to debate
two OS's, you should debate Win98SE vs. Win2k. WinME really was a
total piece of shit. Some people still prefer Win98 to Win2k for
some odd reason. Maybe they just never needed to upgrade because 98
runs just fine.
DO NOT RUN Windows Millenium!!!
\_ I had dual boot w2k/w98 for more than 2 years when I realised
I hadn't booted 98 in a year. Poof! Single boot 2k.
\_ Thanks for the info! I didn't know ME is a worse POS than the
other Win's.
\_ Agreed. I have WinME on my HP Pavilion, and it blows (but the
geniuses at HP haven't gotten around to building drivers for
Win2k). I run Win98 at my labs because it's cheaper and a
lot more stable. --erikred
\_ I just ran NT for the 1st time since 2000. Wow. It is faster on
an old K6-2-300 than W2K on a P1000. NT was designed to run WELL
in 32MB Ram. Win98 seems to like things starting 128MB.
\_ there is no such thing as Win2K Home Edition. Are you thinking
of Win2K Professional or WinXP Home?
\_ W2k only means W2k Pro. No one ever said anything about the
bogus "home" edition of that jonny-come-lately slower version of
W2k with the toyish GUI.
\_There are at least four versions of Win2k. For whatever reason,
my experience has been that Win2K Server runs a bit better than
Pro if you don't install all the server crap. Very strange, but
I attribute it to MS weirdness.
\_ Yea, last time my friend bought Windows ME to play some PC games,
it crashes a few minutes after it comes up, everytime, even with a
clean install. His computer runs linux and older versions of windows
just fine. He got so mad he threw his copy down the dumpster. |
| 2003/2/17-18 [Politics/Domestic/SocialSecurity] UID:27445 Activity:moderate |
2/17 social security -> wall street
http://www.harpers.org/online/trillion-dollar_hustle
\_ 5 pages of op/ed with minimal fact or backing going on and on about
the evils of the current administration.
\_ Crappy writing too. Nose in the air.
\_ I expect crappy writing in op/eds. |