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2002/12/13-14 [Health/Eyes] UID:26801 Activity:moderate
12/12   Lasik works by cutting your cornea right? But doesn't that grow back?
        \_ a flap is cut into it, and then pulled open.  The incision takes
           about 18 months to heal totally.
        \_ whatever you do, don't go cheap on your lasik.  find a doctor that
           has already done a few hundred or better yet go to the stanfurd
           eye clinic where the doctor is the same guy who taught everyone
           else in the BA how to do it.  it's your eyes.
        \_ Don't do Lasik when you are young.  Growing out of your built-in
           prescription really sucks, and the long term downside is not
           well understood yet.
           \_ They've been doing it for years in Europe.  Would you avoid
              other modern and life altering++ surgical techniques as well?
              \_ Some yes, some no.  I wouldn't refuse an appendectomy
                 were it needed, but I'm not signing up for liposuction
                 any time soon.  There are annecdotal reports of problems
                 5-10 years after the surgery resulting from the eye
                 changing shape as it grows.  Preliminary stats show a
                 disproportionate number of males who had the treatment
                 before age 25 in the various problem groups.  This
                 procedure it still in its first generation, so the long
                 term effects really aren't known yet.
        \_ Some useful pages about LASIK and PRK:
           http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/lasik
           http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/1998/498_eye.html
        \_ No lasik for me!  I need to wear glasses to hide the enormity
           of my nose!
           \_ nose jobs are cheap and easily done right.  dirt common.
              \_ a paper bag is cheaper and non-prescription.
                \_ You guys are missing the point.  By wearing glasses,
                   I don't NEED a nose job, I can see, and I don't need
                   a paper bag.  You two must be really, really stupid.
                   \_ Your language is verbose and inept.
                   \_ With lasik and a nosejob you won't look like a fat ugly
                      big nosed nerd.  You *do* need a nose job if your big fat
                      ugly nose is 'reason' enough to wear glasses.  Stop being
                      pathetic and join the human race.
                      \_ So he'd look like a slim, ugly nerd with a sculpted
                         nose?  Think M. Jackson.
2002/12/13-14 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:26802 Activity:high
12/12   Can anyone recommend some good non-fighting multiplayer PS2 games?
        (e.g. similar to mariokart on N64 or fusion frenzy on Xbox) Thx!- mds
        \_ head-to-head: NBA Street, Burnout 2, DDR (dance pad)
           coop: Baldur's Gate, Contra, Time Crisis 2 (GunCon)
        \_ GT:ASpec
        \_ Fusion Frenzy and good do not go together
          \_ It was definitely different/amusing... :)
             \_ Fusion Frenzy was a real crowd pleaser when i played it,
                especailly sumo  (the american gladiator style game).
        \_ Let your boys fight; they'll learn not to kill.
           \_ you're an idiot.
        \_ The Bust-A-Move series is always good (somewhat Tetris like if
           you've never seen it)
        \_ SSX:Tricky is loads of fun.
        \_ Madden Football, any sports game
           \_ Especially hockey
        \_ It's actually for my wife, and she isn't into sports...
           Sorry, should have specified that.  Bust-a-move sounds great,
           thanks! - OP
2002/12/13-14 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:26803 Activity:nil
12/12   Anyone have any ideas when the playstation 3 is due to come out?
        STFW returns a LOT of bogus links...
        \_ my understanding is not before summer 2004. the "cell" chip
           won't be done before then.
        \_ dude im leik totalley waiting for the ps-9 like in that commershul
          where itz leik totalley reel!
2002/12/13 [Uncategorized] UID:26804 Activity:nil
12/12    I have two (2) tickets to the sold-out opening showing (midnight) of
         LoTR The Two Towers at the Metreon.  Turns out i'm going somewhere
         else.  If you want to pick them up (or send SASE) you can have them for
         what I paid for them ($11 each). -crebbs
2002/12/13-14 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:26805 Activity:nil
12/12   In w2k, when I go to START->DOCUMENTS there is a "my document"
        icon also. At my work w2k machine, there's also a small right
        arrow on the right hand side where I can move my mouse over and
        it'll bring up all the contents of "my document".  But, at my
        own home machine, it's just an icon, there's no right arrow.
        So I click it and it bring up file explorer.  How do I get the
        right arrow to appear?  I don't like popping up new file explorer
        windows just to get to my documents.  Sorry for the lengthy
        description, UI problems are a mouthful to describe.  Thanks.
        \_ Start Menu > Settings > Taskbar & Start Menu > Advanced >
           Expand My Documents
2002/12/13-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:26806 Activity:nil
12/13   how do I configure emacs to automatically untabify when save on
        c/c++/java (etc) files? but not all files... thx
        \_ Meta-X auto-untabify-on-save-CandClones
2002/12/13-14 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:26807 Activity:nil
12/12   is there any mysql+perl code on soda anywhere?
        \_ obGoogle
           \_ i dont want google, i want some "in production" soda code.
              i've already seen some google examples (non particularly useful).
        \_ just install bugzilla and look at that
2002/12/13-14 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/SIG] UID:26808 Activity:insanely high
12/12   Pop quiz:
        President Bush today announced two actions.
        1. He will cut federal funds for winter heat assistance to the
        poorest people in America.
        2. He will permit faith-based groups to use federal funds to
        practice religious discrimination.
        For 10 points, which of these actions was compassionate and which
        action was conservative?
        For 5 points extra credit, would a faith-based group include Wiccans?
        \_ What's wrong with this?  He just wants you to pray before you
           get a lump of coal in your sock.
        \_ hey did you read that WSJ editorial about how
           there isn't sufficient public outrage on taxes because
           most really really poor people don't pay much taxes, percentage
           wise, humorously calling them "lucky duckies"?  that was great.
        \_ Pop quiz: 1) you're a leftist troll or 2) you're a trolling leftist.
           If you could at least get the news items right without tainting the
           descriptions with your personal bias maybe there'd be something to
           talk about.  You're just wasting bits like this.  If you were a
           conservative poster you'd already have been censored.
           \_ Actually the news items weren't biased in any way:
              http://tinyurl.com/3irw - heating cuts
              http://tinyurl.com/3is0 - faith-based groups - note the stuff
              about allowing discrimination
           \_ I would suspect neither.  He sounds more like a trolling
              Democrat.  There is no major leftist party in the United
              States.  Take a quick look at the leftist movement in Canada
              last decade if you need an accessable example.  For that
              matter, George W. Bush is not a conservative president.
              The Federal government will have expanded more in his two years
              that the entire eight years with Clinton once the Homeland
              Security bill goes into effect.
              \_ Do you consider HRC a standard party line Democrat?  She's
                 certainly a leftist.
                 \_ Uh huh. Who gave David Horowitz a csua account?
                    \_ You think she's *not* a leftist?
                       \_ Correct. Leftist is not a synonym for liberal,
                          except to the kooks. Look up the word "leftist"
                          in the dictionary or better yet, plug it into
                          a search engine and see what you get.
              \_ Correct!  Conservative and liberal no longer accurately
                 describe either of the two dominant parties.  We need
                 new, more descriptive labels. Vote now:
                 --                        evil, good:
                 --               miserly, shopaholic:
                 --          machiavellian, pollyanna: .
                 --               thieves, adulterers:
                 -- mother grabbers, grabbing mothers:
                 --                my side, your side:
                 --                 six, half a dozen: ..
        \_ No, you need to worship a real God. The Lord. Him. Wiccan? Don't
           they worship Satan? That will not do. It's not a real religion.
           \_ there are no real gods.
                \_ Except Tom. He's a Perl God.
                   \_ ???
              \_ no, some are integer, but most imaginary
           \_ "He seemed so certain about everything, didn't he? And yet
               none of his certainties was worth one hair of a woman's
               head. He wasn't even sure he was alive, because he was
               living like a dead man. Whereas it looked as if I was the
               one who'd come up emptyhanded. But I was sure about me,
               about everything, surer than he could ever be, sure of my
               life and sure of the death I had waiting for me. Yes, that
               was all I had. But at least I had as much of a hold on it as
               it had on me." --The Stranger, Albert Camus
               \_ Son, I say, son, quoting Camus?  You might as well just
                  bit of self-pride that we think we have will be gone
                  before death consumes us.
                  before death consumes us.  Have you tasted death, the
                  wave your ACLU membership card around too.
                  \_ I'm proud of the ACLU, I think defending our civil
                  Just the cold, the darkness and emptiness.
                  Just the cold, the darkness and emptiness, forebolding
                  and relentless.
                     liberties is important.
                     \_ so do i.  what does that have to do with the ACLU
                        though?  they don't defend *my* civil liberties,
                        but then i don't belong to some pc entitlement class.
                        \_ To which civil liberties are you referring?
                           \_ The right to burn a cross on my own front lawn.
                              \_ That's not the ACLU, pal.
                              \_ Why would you want to burn a cross on your
                                 front lawn?  Is that some kind of sexual
                                 fetish?
                     \_ Life is just like masturbation.  a constant,
                        uncontrollable search for temporal pleasures,
                        only to find disappointments, and in the end,
                        emptiness.
                  \_ What the hell do Camus and the ACLU have in common?
               \_ Hold?  Nah, we have no hold on anything.  We will all come
                  up empty-handed.  It is all emptiness.  Even the little
                  bit of pride and nonchalance that we think we have will be
                  gone before death consumes us.  Have you tasted death, the
                  feeling of life slowly but surely draining away?
                  There is no peace.  It is no rest.  There is no hope.
                  Just the cold, the darkness and emptiness, foreboding
                  and relentlessly approaching.
                  \_ "when masturbation's lost its fun"
                     \_ You are right.  Life is just like masturbation
                        - a constant, uncontrollable search for temporal
                        pleasures, only to find disappointments, and in the
                        end, emptiness.
                        \_ You're not doing either correctly.
                           \_ It is not a matter of technique.  It is a
                              matter of essense.
2002/12/13-14 [Computer/Domains, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:26809 Activity:nil
12/12   Another w2k question; when I try to join a w2k svr (sp2) to an
        existing domain, it kept on giving me 'The network location could not
        be reached' error message. This is even though I can ping the PDC,
        I can browse the content of it, etc etc. Any clues? Thx in advance.
        \_ PDC is sp2?  Same subnet?  Got WINS setup correctly?
        \_ probably a wins problem.. or if using active directory, dns
           problem..
        \_ Fixed it. Server was pointing to the wrong WINS and the PDC was
           running low on RPC (it was a sub-par machine). Thx all!
2002/12/13-16 [Computer/Networking] UID:26810 Activity:moderate
12/13   Hmm, I can't get out to http://wamu.com from work by name, but i can get out
        by IP. dns lookups on all other sites seem to work ok. it works from
        soda. any ideas on what is wrong?
        \_ RU going THRU a proxy? What about security(SSL) proxy?
           Online banking sites?
           \_ nslookup fails. As a temporary fix, the admin setup an SOA
              and pointed it to the right IP address, but that's so LAME.
              \_ local host file.  hire real network people.
                 \_ He said he tried that but that DNS was still not resolving
                    the address.
        \_ At an old company I took SOA for http://napster.com and redirected it to
           our own www.
           \_ and then?
              \_ And then cut our bandwidth costs by 95%
                 \_ and then?
                    \_ Yes.  Anything else you'd like to know?
2002/12/13-14 [Recreation/Dating] UID:26811 Activity:moderate
12/13   http://www.girlswithglasses.com/home.html
        \_ Scully was hotter than any of these ch1x.
        \_ Where are the h07 azn ch1x w/glasses?
        \_ these chicks are skanky.
        \_ Is this worksafe?
           \_ yes but nothing speical about the chiks.
2002/12/13-14 [Computer/HW/IO] UID:26812 Activity:nil
12/13   Y'all down with http://thinkgeek.com?  They have some funny stuff.
        \_ Not really: I'm not really down with it and it's really not funny.
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