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2002/9/18 [Uncategorized] UID:25921 Activity:nil
9/17    What's a good gui interface for PostgreSQL?
        Anyone here use XPg or anything like it? thoughts?
2002/9/18 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/SIG] UID:25922 Activity:high
9/17    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,63370,00.html
        And here's the party of division and hatred reaping what it has sown.
        It's a karma thing, kids.  If they had real policies and stood by them
        instead of knitting together pseudo coalitions of minorities glued
        together with other people's tax dollars maybe the party wouldn't be
        directionless and in such terrible shape today.
        [If you can't dispute it, DELETE IT!  restored]
2002/9/18 [Computer/Theory] UID:25923 Activity:moderate
9/17    I have problems with graph theory & combinatorics cuz I didn't pay
        attention when I was in school. What's a good book to re-learn these
        things (and not to get confused when looking at http://mathworld.wolfram.com)
        ? Mainly I just wanna understand the Ramsey Number (NP problem) -alum
        \_ Take a look at Modern Graph Theory by Bela Bollobas, and
                          \- hello, there is [was?] a copy of Bela Bollobas:
                             Graph Theory: An Introductory Course [n.b. this
                             "introduction" is a Springer GTM] at the 9th ave
                             Green Apple Book Facility for <$10 ... It's
                             probably worth a trip to save $30 ... I own one
                             but probably should have bought it to "arbitrage";
                             If the book is not useful to you, you can almost
                             certainly make money on it.
                             Is that the book you mean above? This is a useful
                             reference for some of my work but I dont think it
                             is really a "guide for the perplexed". --psb
                             \_ Modern Graph Theory is a revised version
                                of this, with more than twice as many pages.
                                \_ that's twice as much learnin'!!
           A Course in Combinatorics by Van Lint and Wilson. (The
           latter doesn't have much on Ramsey numbers though.) -ok
        \_ CLR?
           \_ I've seen some copies of this pretty cheap on http://half.com.
2002/9/18-19 [Transportation/Car, Finance/CC] UID:25924 Activity:moderate
9/18    Where is a good reverse phone lookup site?  http://www.411.com can't find
        most of the numbers I'm looking for.  Thanks.
        \_ anywho
        \_ http://whitepages.com
           \_ shit there's so much information in there. How do I remove
              my information, or leave just the city and not the address?
              also, how to remove people information in "basic search"?
        \_ pacbell has one online too
2002/9/18 [Transportation/Car, Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:25925 Activity:very high
9/18    Anybody else annoyed at all this bickering over money for those who
        died on 9/11?  I understand that they need the money.  But why is
        private life insurance not enough?  Why does the US gov't have to
        get involved in paying the families?  We're talking about something
        like 1+ million dollars per family.  This is on top of the life
        insurance they're getting.
        \_ Anybody who could ask questions like this must really hate America.
           \_ not at all. I don't hate America but I also don't
              think that the federal government owes anybody
              anything because of 9-11. They didn't bomb the WTC,
              pentagon, or pennsylvania, after all.
        \_ Maybe this is not compensation but disaster relief aid?  But $1M per
           family of relief aid is way too much compared to aids in other
           disasters.  It's all politics in this case.
           \_ Maybe the other cases didn't get enough and should?  Who is to
              say?
              \_ Are you saying every family who has members killed in a car
                 accident or a fire or a robbery should get $1M from the
                 federal govt?
                 \_ Is a car accident a national disaster requiring relief?
                    \_ No, and that's my point.  Why do families of killed
                       victims of 9/11 "require" $1M fed aid while those of
                       killed victims of random car accidents or bank robberies
                       don't?
                       \_ i suppose the gov't is responsible more for WTC
                          because it was the gov't that pissed off bin laden.
                       \_ it has nothing to do with "responsible" as the
                          morally bankrupt would claim.  it has to do with
                          scale.  when one DUI rams his car into a wall, the
                          country goes on.  when 3000 people die, 4 planes go
                          down, 2 *HUGE* buildings are gone, and the pentagon
                          gets a big hole in it, people need to know the govt
                          is doing something.  disaster relief for family
                          victims is one small part of that.
                          \_ I thought our impending invasion of Iraq was
                             our government's way of letting the people
                             know that they're doing something.
                             \_ Nothing to do with it.
           \_ It was a reflexive response. Note that for all those killed
              in the Sept. 11 attacks (including non-Americans) are getting
              the money. In the Sudanese embassy bombing, only Americans are
              being compensated (this means non-citizen employees and
              bystanders killed/hurt by the blast are not getting money).
              It's all very emotional. See the Red Cross incident.
        \_ The reasonable bickering is about cases like the Red Cross who
           ostensibly raised money for the families of the victims, but then
           were *very* stingy about actually giving it to them.  Given the
           public response for the victims, I don't see a need for federal aid
           for the victims (except perhaps in helping them contact the various
           charities).
2002/9/18 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:25926 Activity:moderate
9/18    Campus wide moping:
        http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/2002/09/memorial.html
        \_ why do students die? drugs? suicide?
           \_ It sounds like that includes deaths of all causes.
2002/9/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25927 Activity:nil
9/18    Anyone else having problem accessing csua www pages?
        \_ My home page does't work now.
2002/9/18 [Reference/Military] UID:25928 Activity:very high
9/18    Any British here?  Why are the navy, marines and air force in Britian
        called "Royal xxx", but the army is only called "Army" instead of
        "Royal Army"?
        \_ Don't you mean Britons?
           \_ Who're the Britons?
           \_ Yeah, Britons.  Sorry.
        \_ The RN, RAF, and Royal Marines historically were formed by the
           King/Queen.  The Army was authorized and financed by the Parliment
           thus their loyalty didn't necessarily lay with the King first.
        \_ not to mention the Royal Police, Royal Jockey Club, etc ...
           \_ I don't know about the Royal Canadian Mounted Poilce, but when
              the Royal Hong Kong Police was first formed, it was only "Hong
              Kong Police".  The "Royal" part wasn't added until decades later.
        \_ I've seen it referred to as the Royal Army Corps
2002/9/18 [Science/Biology] UID:25929 Activity:nil
9.17    gayness gene discovered: http://csua.org/u/2b8
        \_ It says the gene was introduced into the flies.
            \_ gayness induced!
               \_ So can it be cured through gene therapy?
2002/9/18 [Uncategorized] UID:25930 Activity:nil 50%like:25084
9/17    What happened to soda this morning?
        \_ FOOOM!!!!
2002/9/18 [Computer/Networking] UID:25931 Activity:nil
9/17    Besides multicast are there other types of datagrams that do
        "broadcast" on the internet?
        \_ certain control protocols use multicast ip addresses.  OSPF
           hello packets come to mind.  Also in transparent LAN environments
           ARP packets are present on the internet as well.  But those are
           usually tunneled in a L2TP or MPLS or some other tunnel.
        \_ uh, broadcast, multicast, and unicast are the three basic types of
           datagram.  Whats yer question?
2002/9/18-19 [Uncategorized] UID:25932 Activity:nil
9/18    Anyone used a cellphone repeater? Experience? (I live far away so
        my signal sucks)
2002/9/18-19 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:25933 Activity:high
9/18    Don't let the junior guy flush the sendmail queue.  You'll spend more
        time cleaning up his mess than it would've taken in the first place.
        Let him change tapes and surf.
        \_ Why not just use qmail?
           \_ Don't even talk to me about qmail.  I've got that running on
              two other boxes.
           \_ it was written by djb. If you want to use Maildir for
              mail delivery, postfix is a better solution.
              \_ what's wrong w/ djb?
                 \_ he lives in a fantasy world
                 \_ he is a good programmer and theoretician, but his
                    personality and social skills are on par with tjb.
2002/9/18-19 [Uncategorized] UID:25934 Activity:high
9/18    Is there an online resource for looking up by name when someone
        graduated?
        \_ if you have their SSN and last name, you can use the degree
           verification db. linked off of http://registrar.berkeley.edu. -alexf
           \_ no SSN.  If I had that, I could have a lot more than their
              graduation date.
        \_ http://classmates.com?  http://alumni.net?
        \_ if your an alum, goto <DEAD>cal.berkeley.edu<DEAD>
2002/9/18 [Consumer/Audio] UID:25935 Activity:high
9/18    I've got a random mp3 on my hd that I want to know more about.  It's
        by a group called The Freak People.  Any tips?  Google's not being
        helpful.
        \_ Got this from google: link:csua.org/u/2bc
           Looks like part of a compilation album called "Lyrical Masturbation"
           Also check http://www.soundclick.com/bands/mcpm.htm
           \_ Thanks-- it looks like they were involved with the
              post-production work, but the sample I have is more techno and
              less pimp rap.
2002/9/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:25936 Activity:insanely high
9/18    Poll: if CSUA were run like the Weakest Link or Survivor, who would
        you vote for first as the Most Squishable:
        tom: .
        psb:
          \_ doesn't this guy just answer questions well?
        ali: .
        \_ either you're really old, or really boring, or actually
           i know you're really boring, fuck off.
        the motd censor: .
        yermom:
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