7/10    did nuke-the-motd-all-the-fucking-time guy go on vacation?
        \_ why?  are you going to take over his/her duties?

7/10    I'm planning my dow under 5000 party.  Any ideas on a band?

7/10    Wondering (many years later) - what is the secret life point?

7/11    Damn, spamassassin is so awesome (in case you didn't already know
        this). It filters >1000msgs/mo for me. I only get 3-4 spams/month
        and I've never had a non-spam message get marked as spam.
        [ reformatted - motdformatd ]
        \_ spamassassin is clearly ANTISEMITIC and COMMUNIST.
           \_ I thought it was CHAOTIC EVIL +2
        \_ using the default rule set for version 2.30, spamassassin
           misclassifies a few of my mails everyday.
           \_ I had this problem to start with. I spent about ten minutes
              also do this to filter out  some virus transmissions by upping the
              score for large binary includes to near your threshold score.
              looking at what rules had been in play and altered the defaults
              accordingly. I haven't had any false captures in awhile. You can
              also do this to filter out  some virus transmissions by upping
              the score for large binary includes to near your threshold score.
              It sounds like i-file adjusts automatically, though, if this is
              really a problem for you. You might want to check that out.
           \_ spamassassin's whitelisting features are your friend.
              \_ white listing sucks for people who have more than 2 friends.
                 \_ and they're both whitelisting features in spamassassin!
                 \_ Irrelevant for people posting in motd.
              \_ i can certainly white list.  but the fact that i need
                 to white list contradicts the original poster's enthusiastic
                 endorsement of spamassassin's perfection.
                 \_ English major here. :-)
        \_ OP here: do you use -a for autowhitelisting? That might help, but
           I don't use it and it's still near-perfect for me. Maybe my friends
           don't send me spam-like email? I don't have any explicit whitelists
           and I haven't changed any rules.
           \_ If you get newsletters with ads, spamassassin is prone to
              misclassifying these.
              \_ Hmmm, newsletters with ads huh?  Some people use the term
                 'friend' pretty loosely.
                 \_ My friends are sending me great stuff everyday about how to
                    make cash fast, opportunities to make money selling other
                    people's email addresses and I get picked up a lot by hot
                    chicks all over the net several times a day!
              \_ Might I suggest using procmail to filter these before
                 spamassassin gets to them?
        \_ I'm using ifile, and I'm up to 868 pieces of spam so far in the
           first two weeks, and and only one was errantly marked as spam.
           -ERic
           \_ Does ifile need a lot of setup time or config? Or can it
              learn from your existing mail folders?
              \_ You can train it on your existing mail folders.
                 \_ Mebbe i should write up a howto on the scripts in
                    /csua/bin.  Will do when work slows down.  --scotsman

7/11    It seems that the disk is full. Mail is not going out, nor coming in.
        Can someone fix this?

7/11    So, Linux doesn't allow suid shell scripts to work properly.  However,
        i've got plenty of suid binaries and they evidently work.  Will PERL
        suid programs work the way they should?  Is there a good URL i can go
        to and have this all cleared up for me?
        \_ yes, suid perl scripts work fine. (They work only when setuid shell
           scripts are disabled in the kernel--for security reasons).  -tom
        \_ suid shell scripts are disabled because it's really hard to block
           out every single way someone could exploit a shell script into
           doing something unintended, (changing LD_LIBRARY_PATH, IFS, PATH,
           SHELL, etc etc etc)

7/11    "mailq" doesn't work anymore:
                can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied
                Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or
                TrustedUser.
        Is that expected after the OS upgrade?  -- yuen
        \_ why do you need to run mailq
           \_ er..  to see if my mail is stuck in the queue?  get yer head
              out of that pig.
           \_ Someone below said the disk was full and mail wasn't going out
              nor coming in.  --- yuen
        \_ This poses a good feature possibility.  why not have files in
           /var/spool/mqueue owned by the user?
           \_ which user? sender? recipient? what about multiple recipients?
              \_ sender obviously.  recipients may not even exist on this host.
                  \_ sender may not exist either, smug poser.
                     \_ and then it wouldn't matter because they wouldn't have
                        permissions, dumbass.
                     \_ Hah!  You sure got zinged!  Genius!
        \_ This is a sendmail 8.12.x feature.

7/11    I'm planning my dow-under-5000 party.  Know a good caterer that
        works for cheap?
        \_ By definition, shouldn't it be a potluck?

7/11    A new bottom is being formed.
        \_ cmlee, you really need to sign your posts, so we know they're
           coming from the anti-analyst.  -tom

7/11    how dangerous are turtles?  if one of the bigger ones attacks my
        kayak, will I be able to defend myself with my paddle?
        \_ Turtles are usually harmless.  However, there are a few species
           in genus Terrapene Dinocarnivorus and Clemmus Giganticus which have
           been classified as extremely dangerous.  These species feed on
           large surface-floating objects, such as bull seals--as they are
           at home both in salt- and freshwater environments, individuals
           examples weighing up to 900 pounds have been spotted in a variety
           of North American rivers.  Interestingly enough, they do not attack
           turquoise or pink kayaks;  however, the frequent incidents
           involving humans can often result in death or dismemberment.  In
           ocean environments, these behemoths are even more frequently
           deadly, especially when encountered during a waning moon.  Due to
           their heavily carnivorous diet, the animals' highly flatulent
           expectorations can be of a caustic nature, and thus very harmful
           to human mucus membranes.  -John
           \_ They only attack the Swiss so the OP is probably safe. -ausman
        \_ where are you kayaking? tahiti?
        \_ Okay, I'll bite: the turtles in Hawaii may be different from
           the ones where you are going, but I couldn't even chase them
           while snorkling. Turtles are wary of others. I don't think
           they'll attack you while kayaking.
           \_ that's what I was hoping.  I saw waves heading away from
              my kayak that kind of had to be a turtle which indicated it
              was big enough to knock the boat over, and if it was a snapping
              turtle it could kill me then.  i'm not going to start any
              trouble with a turtle on purpose, and i figured it was afraid
              of me also, but i really really don't want a toombstone that
              says "killed by turtle."
              \_ The snapping turtle bites!--More--
                 You die...--More---
           Donatello, but I think that Raphel and the others will easily
                                       \_ Raphael
        \_ Depends on which one attacks you. You might be able to take
           Donatello, but I think that Raphael and the others will easily
           break your paddle and kick your ass.
           \_ Don was always kind of the wussy boy.
           \_ Make sure you don't wear clothing with the Gnome logo, as
              the turtles might mistake you for a member of the Foot clan.
              Then you would really get your ass kicked. (I don't care if
              you are a member of the Cal Tae Kwon Do team, they are NINJAS!)
           \_ Fuck!  Is the Ninja Turtle generation in college already?!
              \_ C0W4BUNG4 D00D!
        \_ There used to be some really big turtles, but they are all dead
           now, so you should be fine.
        \_ Turtles don't attack people.  People attack turtles.  Stay away
           from the turtles.  They're harmless, endangered and almost totally
           defenseless if you can catch them.
               \_ Except for their NINJA weapons!

7/11    I've varied my workout and I seem to be getting some results now.
        I've noticed that my muscles are getting bigger.  However, my total
        weight remains the same.  Anybody had that happen?  Muscle weighs
        more than fat, I could be losing fat but I doubt that's happening.
        what else could account for the fact that I'm getting stronger and
        bulkier while total body weight remains the same?  Thanks.
        \_ It's not unusual for people to gain muscle and yet *lose*
           weight. Why do you doubt you are losing fat? --dim
           \_ because I'm already at 8% body fat.  This is measured using
              one of those body fat machine.  I'm as lean as I can be.  :)
              \_ Those body fat machines overestimate if you are relatively
                 skinny.  Calipers plus coach are better.
                 \_ well ok.  I just thought there was a generic explanation
                    for something like this.  As long as I'm getting stronger
                    and bulkier I have no complains.
                \_ you don't want to go much below 8% body fat for males.
                   Not healthy.
                   \_ is there a scientific basis for this?  I'm vegetarian.
                      Since I stopped eating meat my workout has gotten a lot
                      more effective.  I don't have to waste energy sweating
                      off the fat and cholesterol.
                      \_ body fat refers to fat in your body not in food.
                      \_ well, for one thing, your brain and nerves are
                         sheathed in fat, and your brain is mostly fat.
                         For more info, do yer own googling.  But come on
                         it's common sense.  Extremes in any direction
                         are generally bad.
                         \_ Here is a URL which describes < 8% body fat
                            as being unhealthy.
                            http://www.shapeup.org/dated/082800.htm
                      \_ I have a friend with 7% body fat and his doctor
                         told him it is too low and bad for his skin.
        \_ Did you weight yourself one time before you go to bathroom but
           another time after?
           \_ this is *much* easier than installing a scale in your shitter
              if you want to know how heavy your turds are.
        \_ When you take steroids, you gain weight in the muscles, but lose
           weight when your sexual organs shrink. When you become a meathead
           your muscles also take up more blood flow, decreasing the blood
           your brains gets. Your brain grows smaller, hence weight
           (and intelligence) loss.

7/11    what's the difference between <DEAD>cal.berkeley.edu<DEAD> and
        <DEAD>cal.alumni.berkeley.edu<DEAD> again? I have one and how do I get another?
        How come they have very different IPs?
        \_ <DEAD>cal.berkeley.edu<DEAD> is an alumni/student portal co-sponsored by
           the alumni association.  http://alumni.berkeley.edu is the alumni
           association's web page, which doesn't offer services such as
           email/web space.  In short--
        cal : http://mail.yahoo.com
        cal.alumni : http://news.yahoo.com
        \_ <DEAD>cal.alumni.berkeley.edu<DEAD> Server: Apache/1.3.12 (Unix)
                                           \_ 1.3.12? Security hole!
                                                \_ Are you going to email
                                                   their webmaster?
           http://alumni.berkeley.edu     Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
           <DEAD>cal.berkeley.edu<DEAD>        Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
                                           \_ Windows? Security hole!
                                              \_ Windows == Security hole?
                                                 \_ Windows == GOOD AMERICAN
                                                    PRODUCT! YOU COMMIE!

7/11    Whatever happened to http://autobahn.org and the luzers who werked there?