5/17    psb, we're waiting on your eps2 review...
           \- ~psb/When_Clones_Attack ... my padwan learners.
              spoliers are sort of fwd declared but dont read it till after
              you see the movie if you really want to go in with "zero-
              knowledge". --obi-won-psb
                \_ just tell me, do the Neimodians (short, slanty eyed
                   creatures with broken English) still look like Asians?
                   \- you mean the Chinese Mandarins ... of the trade fed?
                      still there.
                   \_ look like?  the awful accents were more annoying.
                \_ don't tell me you're offended?
                   \_ I liked it when the American accents were beating
                      up on those Evil English accents.
            \_ okay, I won't tell you.

5/17    ucla ee guy, what was your preference in housing (Rose, Keystone, or
        Venice)? Who else from Cal is going to ucla besides you?
        \_ Sheesh. Just exchange your names and take this offline. This
           anonymity thing is quite strange and frankly baffling. You're
           going to be classmates. Get over it.
           \_ Not that strange. Ever use the glory holes in the basement
              of Evans? Do you really want to know who is on the other side?
              \_ yermom, of course.

5/16    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?u=/nm/20020516/sc_nm/space_jupiter_dc_1
        Jupiter.moons+=11;

5/16    <DEAD>www.takeittothebridge.org<DEAD>
        \_ blah blah blah. yada yada yada.
           You, your friends or relatives should have been sitting on the top
           floor of WTC on 9/11. Maybe you'd sing differently after that.
        \_ these idiots lump Affirmative-Action, Legalizatio of Marijuana,
           bashing Jews, labor unions, and anti-war protest as one and the
           same. lame.
           \_ Stop making shit up. They look dumb enough already, why do
              feel the need to lie about it?
        \_ Free Mumia!!!

5/18    What's a bikeshed?  Where does the word come from?
        \_ there is no such thing and you are too stupid to live.

5/18    Ep 2 spoilers will be deleted. --phillip
        \_ They all die at the end.
           \_ EXCEPT Jar-Jar.
              \_ And the young skywalker from Ep. 1.  Not his career, though.
           \_ I can't believe they killed off Yoda!
              \_ That's nothing. I can't believe Obi-Wan knocked up Padme.
                 \_ Wouldn't you?
                    \_ No. I'd go for Leia
                       \_ Threeway!
                       \_ But then you'd have to wait until Anakin knocks up
                          Padme.  Jedis are have needs too!
                          \_ Nothing wrong with "baking the bread"

5/17    Can someone post the "boycott Lucas" chain mail here? I just need
        it on motd for an hour, I'll get it then delete it, thanks.
        \_ I haven't seen the chain mail, but is this close?
           http://intermonkey.com/starwars
        \_ Sign your post.

5/17    Anyone attend convocation to hear Johnny Mosely give his talk?
        Did he sound completely idiotic and out of place? I missed it.

5/17    I bought a house ~3 yrs ago.  I just found out there is asbestos
        tape inside my furnace.  Neithe the seller nor the property
        inspector disclosed it to me.  Can I hold them financally
        responsible for taking it out by any chance?
        \_ your old house in Santa Clara is shit. Sell it and install linux
        \_ Are you sure they didn't disclose it in some tiny little embedded
           fine prints on the back of page 247 or so?
        \_ They don't have to disclose everything, only things which they
           should know about.  And asbestos isn't inherently a problem,
           any more than lead-based paint is.  I doubt you can sue and win.
           But of course, you should ask a lawyer if you want legal advice.
                -tom

5/17    Can I use hair gel in place of KY Jelly?  Any adverse effect?  Thx.
        \_ Um, for what purposes???  And whatever your answer is, I would
           HIGHLY doubt it.
           \_ For male masturbation.  It's less obvious to have hair gel than
              KY Jelly in the house.
                \_ Well you could, but isn't hair gel more expensive?
                   \_ Maybe, but I don't need to hide it.
                      \_ Why don't you try it and let us know how it goes.
                      \_ How about vaseline?  Don't need to hide it, will
                         help with the chaffing, and still the best skin
                         moisturizer!
                         \_ But vaseline can't be wash off as easily.
        \_ Can I use KY Jelly in place of hair gel?
           \_ Go for it!

5/17    I'm trying to get rid of two 21" monitor shipping crates. The nice
        anvil sytle containers that people use at strade shows. If you
        have need of one of these, let me know. You can have them
        for free.  -payam
        http://www.mirrashidi.com/itemsforsale/pic/image014.jpg
        \_ Do they come with 21" monitors?

5/17    Suppose two people have a common medium and want to contact each
        other and want to minimize interception by others (e.g. spy in foreign
        country using the newpaper ad for secret communications). What's
        the best way to go about this?
        \_ Public key/private key encryption. But if you start posting
           encrypted messages to the motd, they will be deleted. Can't
           you and EE UCLA guy just meet somewhere for drinks?
           \_ let's say I give you my public key, and the UCLA guy encodes
                his messages to me using my public key and I decode it. How
                do I know it's REALLY him since anyone can use my key?
                You see the problem with that logic?
                \_ also, suppose anyone posts a public key and the UCLA guy
                   mistakens it and encodes his message. Then he would be
                   exposed right?
                \_ Encode with his private key then your public key.
                   Isn't this one of the standard textbook security
                   problems?
                   \_ BTW, which NT/Unix e-mail programs support public key /
                      private key across the internet?  Thanks.
                      \_ mutt?
                   \_ Go back to class.  You sign with your private key, which
                      can be decrypted with your public key.  You encode the
                      whole message with his public key, which can be decrypted
                      with his private key.  Kids today...
                      \_ I think the previous posters were referring to
                         receiving messages, not sending.  -- yuen
        \_ I think ucla ee guy and ucla cs are are really the same guy.
           \_ Maybe their name is Norman.
        \_ Depends on circumstance. Ideal would be a minimalized ciphertext
           "dictionary" which could be memorized. A few code words and you're
           done. Of course it would be good for a couple of uses, tops.
        \_ PGP/GPG should be ok, though, key exchange is a problem since
           you can't trust any keys posted on motd. You might need to contact
           the key holder in person to make sure that the posted key
           fingerprint indeed belongs to her/him.
           \_ or sign up with verisign(those bastards)
           \_ what is wrong with signing your own public key and send it
              to the receipent?
              \_ then the recipient needs to have a -trusted- copy of the
                 sender's public key in order to verify the signature.
                 Chicken and egg problem. I'd say that if the two parties
                 don't agree in advance about the medium of communication
                 and the public keys, this problem is unsolvable unless these
                 two guys are -very- creative and smart ..
        \_ Too many geeks here. Reread the question. Do you want minimize
           the chance of interception, the fact that you are sending a
           message, the fact you are sending a secret message, the chance
           of someone else decoding the message, or the odds your message
           will be delivered accurately? Given your example of two people
           communicating via a newspaper, I'd recommend against the PGP
           encrypted message dictated to the fat fingers of a desk clerk.
           \_ Not to mention the fact that publishing a line of obviously
              encoded text is likely to draw attention.
        \_ come on guys this is a very classic encryption problem and none
           of you morons have a sol'n to this. How pathetic     -crypto king
        \_ to those people who supposedly have scripts to monitor who writes
           what on the motd, do everybody a favor and just reveal who ucla ee
           and ucla cs guy are and get it all over with.

05/17   End of Semester PARTY! The Great Logout:
        http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~phillip/logout

5/17    If I want to do incremental backups, is dump still the way to go?
        \_ how much data?  what backup device?
           \_ What kind of data would be useful too.
        \_ GNU tar is another program that supports incremental backups, though,
           I still prefer dump. -dumper
              \_ Just post the data at the bottom of the motd, and we'll
                 tell you what to do. Remember to mpack it if it's binary.
        \_ GNU tar is another program that supports incremental backups,
           though, I still prefer dump. -dumper
        \_ I use this cool new peer-to-peer backup program called dumpster.

5/17    http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/17/ca.s02.starwars.jarjar.ap/index.html
        Less Jar-Jar makes fans happy.

5/17    http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/content.php?id=50323
        Now YOU can be the suicide bomber