Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2002:April:30 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2002/4/30 [Reference/History/WW2/Japan] UID:24638 Activity:insanely high
4/29    Followup: Was bombing Hiroshima & Nagasaki terrorism, since we killed
        civilians to undermine their support of Japanese gov't policy?
        \_ yes, we circumvented their military, which is suppose to protect
           their civilians, and attacked their civilians. So yes, terrorist
           don't bother with our military so terrorist attack our civilians
           by ignoring our military.
                \_ The US lost 300,000 soldiers in WWII to free the world
                   you live in, so unless you had family who fought for
                   the allies in WWII your opinion is WORTHLESS.
                   \_ Dad and his brothers, 442nd RCT or Army Medical. -jon
           \_ Do you even know anything about why Hiroshima and Nagasaki
              were selected? They were primarily strategically important
              military targets:
              In Nagasaki the target was the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works
              and the Mitsubishi-Urakami Ordnance Works. Not exactly your
              run of the mill civilian zen children's peace commune.
              "bomb" was used in violation on international law banning attacks
              on civilians (as if international law on this subject mattered
              after the blitz and dresden):
              Even the hague couldn't quite bring themselves to say that the
              "bomb" was used in violation on international law banning
              attacks on civilians (as if international law on this subject
              mattered after the blitz and dresden):
        \_ The Japanese, because they are so strong willed, refused to
           surrender and preferred to die fighting to the last woman and
           child.  Instead of fighting a war of attrition at the cost of
           tens of thousand US casualties (if not hundreds),
           and a probably similar cost to Japan, we nuked them.
           What is so hard to understand about that.  More people died
           in conventional bombing on primarily civilian targets.  Yes
           both are horrible but such is nature of war.  You kill people.
           Frankly, I, like 99% of Americans at that time, had family
           fighting in the war one way or another.  If you ask
           any one alive at the time was it the right decision, the
           answer was unequivocally yes.  Unfortunately, you have
           the revisionists today who weren't alive at the time come
           along and preach what a horrible atrocity it was -
           complete bullshit.
           \_ Another strategic reason for dropping the nuclear bombs on
              Japan, the one that many people forget, was a simple
              demonstration of the nuclear capability to the Soviets and rest
              of the world. The world was already frightened by USSR's swift
              conquest of the Eastern Europe.  Their military machine seemed to
              be unstoppable. Certain Soviet generals were even suggesting to
              Stalin at the time to turn their tanks and take over the rest of
              Europe. Not that Stalin was necessarily planning to do that but
              dropping the nukes on Japan certainly added more weight to
              the American military might in his eyes.
        \_ I love how people who have absolutely no connection with
           events of WWII can ramble and rant and rave about how horrible
           it was to bomb Nagasaki and Hiroshima.  Goddamned spoiled
           coddled fuckwits who would probably shit in their pants if
           they had to make a hard decision in their entire fucking lives.
           Everyone's a fucking critic after the fact. --Jon
2002/4/30 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:24639 Activity:nil
4/29    Where do I find one of these automated freerepublic URL generators
        that post to the motd?
2002/4/30 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:24640 Activity:high
4/29    If Paul Twohey and Alex Fabrikant are so smart where are they going
        for grad school?
        \_ Wow, I have a stalker now, too! Wheeee! -alexf (who is staying at
           berkeley for grad school)
           \_ Yeah, but you have to share your stalker with twohey.  For
              what that's worth. -geordan
              \_ Doh! -alexf
2002/4/30 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Reference/History/WW2/Japan] UID:24641 Activity:nil
4/30    Regarding all this talk about Japan: has anyone seen that SNL skit
        with Chris Farley on a Japanese game show? fucking hilarious.
        (its on Kazaa, etc)
2002/4/30 [Uncategorized] UID:24642 Activity:nil
4/30    hi kngharv
Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2002:April:30 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>