4/3     Scorpion King.  Yes.  She's hot.  What's wrong with you?  Why'd you
        have to ask?  Duh.

4/3             *** 7 FOOT ANOREXIX BLONDE WHORE ***
           *** PLAYS LED ZEPPELIN ON CORDLESS DRILL!!! ***

            God's Girlfriend
            Bondage a Go Go
            520 4th St. at Bryant
            (415)995-4600

            Wed. April 6
        \_ Uh great.  The best of SAn Francisco 'entertainment'.

4/21    cool... someone restored the motd from like 2 days ago. can we get an
        older one please? I actually barely remember reading some of these
        posts.
        \_ How old do you want it?
           \_ Two years.
              \_ OK, here you go.  motd from April 21st, 2000, around 6pm PDT:

FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE #0: Sun May  3 22:30:48 PDT 1998: Co-Ed Naked Computing

**/**      --==< Politburo Meetings: Tuesdays, 5:00pm, 337 Soda. >==--

03/01   the new library books policy is now available at:
                /csua/adm/doc/policies/library          --librarian

03/01   ONCE AGAIN, CLEAN UP YOUR CRAP IN /var/mail! --root
        \_ If you are interested donating to the CSUA, mail donations@csua

12/09   "got mips?" t-shirts!  See dans or visit the CSUA office.  $10

12/07   Return OVERDUE CSUA library books to 343 Soda, ASAP!  --librarian

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4/21    JOIN THE ORANGE SHIRT CULT.  WORSHIP THE SELF-PROCLAIMED MESIAH
        WHOM YOU'VE NEVER MET.
B

4/22    Is changing the userID in the passwd file the only place it need
        be changed?
        \_ chown files owned by the user to the new uid (find can be very
           useful for doing this)

4/21    what is a troll?
        \_ Gary Bauer
        \_ That little guy on Different Strokes and Mini-Me in
           AP2 (god what a shitty movie).
        \_ Check you AD&D players handbook for more info.

4/21    I'm moving so I want to change my cable service.  Which of the premium
        channels (HBO, Showtime, Cinemax) offers the most movies of erotic
        nature, ie. rated TVMA or with advisories SC (strong sexual content)
        or N (nudity)?  Can't afford pay-per-view channels, sorry.  Thanks.
        \_ looking for some Ho-time or Skinimax, Mr. Troll?
           \_ I currently subscribe to HBO and SHO.  SHO seems to be better
              than HBO, but it might just be my timing.  Haven't had MAX
              before, so I wonder how it compares to the other two.  I'm
              moving to Fremont which I suppose is also covered by AT&T.
        \_ If blonde silcone augmented sex slave is your idea  of women.
                porn on the internet is better and free
        \_ HBO hands down. Thursdays 11PM: Real Sex, SexByte, etc etc.
           And look for movies that start after 1 am on the weekends.

4/21    Boyfriend's b-day is coming up. Which game console should I get?
        Playstation? Dreamcast? N64?            -dunno much about games
        \_ what?  a CSUA chick has a b.f.?  that's gnu.
        \_ playstation 2. if you dont have the guts and the cash, then
           regular playstation.
                \_ PS2 = faster/more bits than PS?
                   \_ Yes, plus it doubles as a cheap DVD player.
                      Unfortunately, they're only sold in Japan right now.
                        \_ "cheap"?  Only relative to DVD player prices in JPN
                            And there's only about 10 released games --oj
          \_ Which type of games does he like?  How much are you planning
             to spend?  I have all of the above mentioned consoles, email
             me for an opinion. --oj
             \_ Bah.
                N64 if he's a 12 year old
                Dreamcast if he likes collecting amigas and other orphaned
                  products
                Playstation if he's a reasonably intelligent person who
                likes adult-quality games.
                \_ "adult-quality games"?  Isn't that an oxymoron?  If you're
                   an adult you wouldn't be dicking around with games.  Only
                   dateless l0sers have time for that crap.  The only games
                   I play are of the sexual kind.  --dateless l0ser
        \_ I have an N64 collecting dust (last great game was Zelda64, and
           before that, WaveRace64, which came out when N64 launched). I also
           have a Dreamcast which already has more quality games than N64.
           Currently playing Resident Evil: Code Veronica & Dead or Alive2.
           I already preordered my Playstation2 coming September / October.
           \_ Didn't the PS2 come out more than a year ago?  I have a
              friend who got one (in the US) at least that long ago.
              Why do you need to pre-order a PS2?
        \_ Get him a stock ticker, that way you can ensure he grows up
           to be a responsible adult. Get him a game console if you
                                                \_ http://realdoll.com
           want him to be a miserable failure and a poor husband you
           can't provide for you or your future kids.
                \_ Speak for yourself.  We have N64, PS, & DC, plus
                   $200k annual income and stock options worth around $750k.
        \_ travel forward in time and buy him an X-BOX!

4/21    Once again, who the hell is PAUL and why should I agree with him?
        \_ t-shirt seen on Sproul: "I Agree With RuPaul".
           Paul is an airhead zealot who you shouldn't agree with.  -tom

4/22    Some body kill elian gonzalez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Slap all his relatives in miami as well.
        \_ Should Elian Gonzales be tried as an adult and be put to death?
           Sure, I guess.
        \_ Reno is going in with an Apache Heli again. you'll see. your
           wish will come true.
           \_ VX gas!
        \_ The media needs Elian to boost ratings.
        \_ how about, instead of killing Elian we'll kill all the morons
           stupid enough to care about Elian.  Like the person who started
           this thread.  -tom
        \_ E-Lian
           \_ Cool!  When is IPO?
        \_ A-lian.

4/21    I have many email address (uclink, soda.csua, eecs-inst, work,
        on-campus research lab, etc etc) and I want to forward them all
        to one account. Which one should I use? Yes, I use procmail but
                        \_ Why are you asking this here? It should be completely
                           up to you where to forward your mail.
                           \_ Well, I was kind of hoping to hear what other
                              people do and why... I guess it all just comes
                              down reliability. But thanks for reassuring me
                              that I do in fact have the freedom to make
                              my own decisions.
                \_ real answer.  I forward my mail to the machine I
                   sit at, simply so the network delay is as small as
                   possible.  Really, I'd suggest forwarding your mail
                   the the computer you trust thats as close to your
                   normal mail reading desktop. - seidl
        that doesnt answer my question.
        \_ Use procmail
                \_bandwidth hogging troll deleted
                  \_ thank you for saving us from wasted
                     bandwith, oh great and all knowing big brother.
                     \_ You are welcome. -- Big Brother

4/21    I can't get MSN Messenger to do intranet video conferencing. I don't
        want to use NetMeeting, and there's a bug in CUSeeMe 4. What are
        the other alternatives?
        \_ How much do you want to spend?
        \_ vic and vat.  do a google search

4/21    Why your mother told you to stop sucking your thumb:
        http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/04/21/bitten.thumb.ap/index.html
        \_ I think that's more like why yermom told you to stay off angeldust
        \_ this is really sad.  poor kid, maimed for life.

4/21    MOTD Poll. How many people use pgp (or gnupg) on soda?
        PGP:
        GnuPG: ...
        Neither, Because No One Cares What's In Your Email: ..
        I'm Not That Paranoid: ..
        The Feds Already Cracked It Or We Wouldn't Be Allowed To Use It: .
        the NSA paid for my fucking harddrive anyway so there's no point: .
        \_ and if anyone who got *ANY* sort of PGP filter worked with
           with pine, let me know.             -kngharv
           \_ I tried. How I tried. I believe the problem is actually with
              soda's installation of pgp. I bought the bullet and started
              soda's installation of pgp. I bit the bullet and started
              using mutt. I can't say I'm an enthusiast but it does handle
              gpg better. I never did get pgp working. --ulysses
           \_ I couldn't get it working in pine. I gave up and switched
              to mh-e and mailcrypt.
        \_ Follow up poll. Do you:
           sign email: .
           sign news:
           sign + encrypt email:
           sign + encrypt news:

4/21    This isn't a joke (regardless of how funny it is):
        <DEAD>members.truepath.com/objective/propaganda.html#APPLE<DEAD>
        \_ disgusting is what it is.
        \_ It's a joke, son, relax.
           \_ In what sense? I laughed out loud reading it but the guy appears
              dead serious.
        \_ http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=members.truepath.com
           Damn I hoped they were running *BSD.
           \_ Why would you care if some nutters were running their nutter site
              on a version of unix you've never used?
           \_ Linux still has "demons". I'm going to go out on a limb
              and say that Linux also has more goth and pagan developers
              and users than BSD. I wonder what they would make of that.

4/22    Gas explosion on Milvia this morning. Check the news. There's choppers
        hovering. I count three from my office.
        \_ Hardly the first time there was a gas explosion in Berkeley. Are
           they news-whore copters or police copters?  News-whore copters
           aren't interesting but the police might be.
           \_ I'm a couple of miles away but I'm guessing the former.
        \_ That's no moon.
           \_ This isn't a cave!
        \_ URL: http://www.sfgate.com/news/baycitynews

4/22    How many of you were dotcom paper millionaires a couple of years ago?
        And what company was it?  Curious.
        \_ http://gamers.com. We were too big and too proud, and the hubris got us.
        \_ Does paper millionaires count vested options or exercised-and-held
           options?
                \_ shut the fuck up you banal fucks
                   \_ Bitter?
                                _|_
        \_ I was.  And our company was featured on <DEAD>fuckedupcompany.com<DEAD>
           \_ And how much of it were did you end up with?
              \_ Less than a thousand.  It will almost cost me more
                 to unlock and sell the shares than what it's worth.
        http://www.theonion.com/onion3814/home-buying_up.html
         \_ The Onion blew it with this one.  Home buying isn't about being
            a suburban dork.  It's about economic freedom and maturity.  Kids
            rent, adults buy.  Why make someone else rich?  Why die poor?
            \_ the lame part is when it talks about how you have a 30-year
               committment to the mortgage.  Unless the renters think they
               won't be paying rent 30 years from now...  -tom
               \_ That's just one of many lame parts.  It's endless.
         \_ My rent is 1/3rd what a house would run, and I share a 3 bed
            place in a nice part of SF (with one other).  Renting is for
            those who don't want to commit to the area for 5 years.
            \_ In 5 years your new rent will be higher than my mortgage.  You
               think about that one for a few minutes.  My grandmother's
               mortgage was $156/month on her $300k home when she passed.  If
               she had been renting all that time her rent would've been about
               $1750 for the same place/location/house/etc. and eating cat
               food without family help.  Also your rent is 2/3rds not 1/3rd
               because you're *sharing* with 1 other person.  I could rent out
               half my house and share if I wanted to cut my mortgage expenses
               down.  Compare like with like.
        \_ Cool, so people who take the Onion's attitude will leave
                more houses for the rest of us intelligent people...
                - new homeowner
           \_ Nonono, as a new home owner you *want* lots and lots and lots of
              housing competition now that *you* made it.  You are now in
              control of your destiny.  You can either upgrade in the same area
              later when you have more money when the local market is low or
              you can sell when the local market is high and move to another
              area where housing is low and cash in mega bucks.  Renting is for
              suckers and short termers and kids.  Buy, buy, buy!
           \_ You're a bunch of overpaid spoiled fucks, aren't you. Of COURSE
              owning is preferable to renting! What else are you going to do
              until you've got the frickin' cash? What housing market do you
              think we're in? Pittsburgh, PA?

4/22    All you's emacs/pico wielding motd editors.  Try using /csua/bin/me.
        Those of us using vi much appreciate it.
        \_ emacs and pico doesn't lock the files?
           \_ Nope.  not by default.  in fact, they both make temporary copies
              to work on, then overwrite the existing file, ignoring flocks.
              \- emacs has a central locking dir but only other emacsen use
              it. also emacs will notice that the file changed under you
              while you were editing, you the user has to confirm the over
              write.
                \_ and people always overwrite because they don't want to
                retype what they typed; and don't know how to copy what they
                have typed and reload the file.  I get the same problem with
                vi, but I'll just copy and reload the file when it becomes
                writable, then paste where I left off.
                \_ 1. Set the mark: Ctrl-SPACE
                   2. Move to the end of your text
                   3. Save the text: M-x clipboard-kill-ring-save
                   4. Get the new motd: M-x revert-buffer
                   5. Paste in your text: Ctrl-y
                \_ I do this^. Don't paint me with your broad brush!

4/22    I'm curious. Are there any institutional/corporate entities running
        OpenBSD and NetBSD? (I already know about Saab).
        \_ many people use openbsd for firewalls
           \_ Understood. Thanks.
        \_ http://www.openbsd.org/users.html
           Rumor has it that Justice and State Depts. use OpenBSD for
           secure systems that hold and transmit important nonclassified
           date. NetBSD is used by many router/switch vendors.