4/2     I use kdm on FreeBSD with
ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on   secure
        in /etc/ttys.  Sometimes, I really just want to kill the damn
        thing, and have it stay dead (eg, to upgrade kde or X or whatever).
        As it is, no matter how I kill -9 its processes, it always comes
        back.  What do I need to do?
        \_ you want to kill the X process, not kde
           \_ If I kill X, kdm restarts it.  If I kill kdm, it pops up
                again a second later.
                \_ you need to change to a different init level.  -tom
                   \_ With FreeBSD?
                      \_ FreeBSD sucks, hoser
                         \_ You prefer...?
                      \_ whoa... tom's been wrong alot lately... must be
                         global warming or something.
                        \_ it can't be global warming because there's no such
                           thing.  certainly not anything human caused.
                        \_ gee, why don't you come up with the answer then,
                           Einstein?  in /etc/ttys on FreeBSD, "on" means
                           init will respawn it.  you need to switch it to
                           "off" and then kill -HUP 1.  -tom
                           \_ thank you.
                           \_ answer: uninstall all gui crap and use the shell
                              like god intended.
                              \_ Hi, Paolo!
                                 \_ Why is every common sense comment
                                    attributed to Paolo?
                                    \_ I doubt paolo 'mr l33t zero day' gui man
                                       would ever say that.

4/2     is there any http://adcritic.com-like site around these days?
        \_ It's coming back soon; it got some sponsor
        \_ ifilm is kind of like it, not as good, but some of the same stuff
        \_ If you're looking for funny shorts, check out
                http://www.thelonelyisland.com
           I find it hilarious... but maybe just because this guy is a
           friend of mine.              - rory
           \_ NYC jewish rappers (Beastie Boys) >> LA jewish rappers.
              \_ I think the key difference is that Beastie Boys are
                 for real and these guys are basically a joke
              \_ I think the real difference is between othodox and reform jews.

2/02    Where is a cheap place to rent a snow-board?
        \_ Get a tahoe card ($25); gives you 2 days of rentals from Any
           Mountain.  If you need it sooner, Any Mtn is decent.
            \_ unfortunately, i do need it sooner, and Any Mtn is $40!
               (i used to rent a ski package for $11)

4/2     Can't find fdisk in WinXP. What is it now?
        \_ if it's like 2000, somewhere in the Control Panel, there's a
           Computer Management applet that lets you partition disks.

4/2     I rent my house out and need to file a Schedule E form. Turbotax
        asks me 2 questions, the cost to acquire the house and the cost of
        the land. Is that the cost of the current land, or the cost in which
        the house was put in service? Also where can I find this information?
        I've lost the property tax form...
        \_ look at the complete form in TurboTax.  The explanatory information
           should be there.  If you can't figure it out, search for the form
           and directions on irs.gov

4/2     Are there any known virii with MS powerpoint files?  either ppt or
        pps files.  I usually don't open .doc or .xls files because I've
        heard of macro virus.  Does powerpoint have macros?  Thanks.
        \_ I don't specifically know of any but PP is hooked into the whole
           MS concept of 'OS as Application as OS' so who knows?  If it's at
           all possible I'm sure it's been done.
        \_ The plural of "virus" is "viruses" not "virii.", see:
           http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html

4/2     I ask a serious question, and the big conservative
        meanie pigdog keeps deleting it.  how do you
        make a pass at a girl?
        \_ You can start with complimenting her anything ABOVE her neck.
           (too early to start with anything lower).
           \_ or below the knee.
              \_ i agree. women take an inordinate amount of pride in their
                 footwear.
        \_ seriously? you're not gonna get a useful answer from us. that
           is something you have come up with yourself in order for you
           to feel comfortable doing it.
        \_ Watch the movie Groundhog Day as many times as you can. Bill
           Murray's character learns what it takes to keep a woman, is the
           same as what it takes to attract her. [formatd]
           \- how about watching "Beatiful Mind" or the Life of Kary Mullins.
              However both of those involve winning a nobel prize. --psb
        \_ Well, first you ask her out on a date, then at the end of
           the date you kiss her lightly on the lips. Then you ask her
           out again and kiss her more passionately the second time.
           Then you ask her out again and then you fuck.
        \_ be funny, considerate and a damn good listener. Or is that too
           much to ask? Also, be honest about what you want and why - both
           with yourself and her.

4/3     I heard that CA has anti-spam law.  Has anyone ever been charged
        with violating that law?
        \_ http://www.timothywalton.com/fergusonvfriendfinders.html

4/3     I want to get the Lucida Bright font for my FreeBSD LaTeX system (I
        only have the default Times New Roman font right now). Is there
        somewhere I can get this font from for free, or do you have to buy
        fonts? Thanks.
        \_ freebsd sucks.  use something else.
                \_ let's assume I can't. (plus, I don't think it matters)
           \_ Hi, Paolo!

4/2     Looking for perl/script based virus. Where to find them?
        \_ Uh, you realize the difficulty a perl-based virus would have
           propagating, right?  Why not write it yourself, it wouldn't be
           hard.
        \_ d00d, u should b l00king 4 a java virus.  write once, run anywhere!
           \_ d00d, don't u know that there is no such ting as a java virus.
              java is 100% safe and secure, Scott McNealy told me so.
        \_ Why would you want such a thing anyway?  And do you want a virus or
           a worm?  There's a difference the so called 'tech' media can't
           figure out.

4/2     is there a clip online somewhere of Errol Morris'
        film short that opened up the Oscars?  Where?  thanks. - danh

4/2     Hello EE MS UCLA guy, I GOT IN!!! I got the letter TODAY. Thanks
        for your support. Let's keep in touch! By the way still haven't
        received anything from USC and Stanford.   -CS MS UCLA guy
        \_ Congrats. I'm glad you got in. BTW, I haven't heard from
           USC or Stanford either. It doesn't matter, since I already
           said yes UCLA last week.
           \_ what is your nick name? Don't want to keep saying EE MS UCLA guy
              \_ it's "pigfucker"
                 \_ gee, Terrance, why would you call me a pigfucker?

4/3     Joke of the day.

   It was the first day of school and the teacher thought she'd get to
   know the kids by asking them their names and what their fathers did
   for a living.

   The first little girl said, "My name is Mary and my daddy is a
   postman."

   The next little boy said, "I'm Andy and my Dad is a mechanic."

   It was then little Johnny's turn and he said "My name is Johnny and my
   father is a striptease dancer in a cabaret for gay men."

   The teacher gasped and quickly moved on, but later, in the school
   yard, the teacher approaches Johnny privately and asks if it was
   really true that his Dad dances nude in a gay bar.

   Little Johnny blushed and said, "Nah, he's really an auditor for
   Arthur Andersen, but I was just too embarrassed to say so."

4/3     I switched from the old method to using spamc. However, now messages
        that are marked as spam don't have any bodies. How do I fix this?
        \_ What is wrong with SpamBouncer?  --kngharv

4/3   Why so many suicidal bombers?  They do it for the virgins!
      http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=&ncid=721&e=5&u=/ap/20020403/ap_on_re_mi_ea/palestinians_bomber_money_3
      "The devout Muslims among the bombers, a majority, believe they will go
      to heaven as martyrs and spend eternity in the company of 72 virgins."
      Some of us don't even get to poke one virgin in our entire life.
        \_ i forget where I read this, but some scholars believe the
           translation of the original arabic the koran was written
           got mangled a bit, and where it read "72 virgins", the original
           intent was "a whole bunch of white raisin", which are
           pretty rare on the arabian peninsula. - danh
           \_ The issues still pertain. Are they the same 72 raisins for
              eternity so they get used up? Or are you not allowed to eat
              them because then you won't spend eternity with them? Or do
              they magically reappear as new raisins? Plus, wouldn't you
              get tired of raisins after a few years of eternity?
        \_ i'm getting to this thread late, but what if the suicide bomber
           is a female (non-lesbian?)
        \_ Consider how rare you can find virgin now a days, it might be
           worth it for some people.
        \_ Been there, done that.  Nothing is more annoying than sex with a
           know-nothing.  Why do you want to spend your time telling some
           little girl how to have sex?  Much better to spend your time
           actually having sex.  Sex shouldn't be a tutoring lesson, it should
           be fun.
           \_ Whatever. What is there to know? They take it, I slap their ass
              and go to sleep.
           \_ Maybe they fantasize about causing pain to these young women?
              \_ What happens if you are a suicide bomber in heaven?
                 \_ How can you commit suicide if you're already in heaven?
           \_ after 72 times, they are no longer virgins, so obviously this
              is a lie
              \_ or it's true, then they can't have sex with them for eternity
                 hahaha
                 \_ It doesn't say that they spend eternity with the same 72
                    virgins. Used ones might get magcially replaced.
              \_ Maybe these women are virgins because no one will do them.
           \_ Been there, done that too.  It's so satisfying that I wish I can
              deflower many more.
              \_ Blow yourself up!
              \_ What's satisfying about having sex with someone who doesn't
                 know anything about having sex?
                 \_ If they have no frame of reference for comparision, then
                    they won't be able to tell how awful your performance was.

4/3     Wanna reduce your tax?  Eat!
        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020402/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/taxes_weight_3
        This must have been proposed by all those weight loss businesses.

4/3     The Default SpamAssassin seems to mark E-vites as spam. (fwiw/fyi)
        \_ With good reason.  You know that evite collects all those email
           addresses of your 'friends' and fails to provide a way for your
           spam victims to get removed from their database?  If you were
           truly someone's friend you wouldn't evite them to anything.
        \_ I think I fixed this. Let me know if they are still being
           filtered. -ausman

4/3     pointless middle east politiking removed - funny stuff retained:
        \_ Uh yeah, whatever.  Maybe we should gather at Sproul and have a
           rally or a sit-in for peace and send good vibes around the world.
           Hey, are you 420?  Let's get together!

4/3     Poll:
        L&S CS people are dumber than EECS people:
        L&S CS people are just as good as them:
        L&S CS people are smarter: