Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2002:March:07 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2002/3/7 [Computer/SW/Virus, Computer/SW/Mail] UID:24042 Activity:very high
3/6     What's the best p2p client out there now?  I don't want spyware, I
        don't want adware.  Windows prefered but *nix is fine, too.
        \_ for audio I really like Audiogalaxy (
           \_ just make sure they don't sneak adware in on you...
        \_ gnucleus.  Open-source gnutella client on windoz.
           It's very good stuff, I don't understand why anyone want to use
           commercial counterparts.
           \_ Um, how about because the FastTrak clones have better search
              capabilities, hang on to in-progress downloads more consistently,
              are faster and get more hits? Gnutella-based clients are a poor
              cousin but you get what you pay for so I'm coping.
        \_ For FastTrak, I'm using Grokster but I was able to defeat the
           spyware using the procedure outlined here:
           For Gnutella, I use Gnucleus.
           \_ Thanks for the link!
2002/3/7 [Computer/HW/CPU, Computer/HW/IO] UID:24043 Activity:high
3/6     How many people have a "webcam"? Do you need a special software to
        view it? Do you need to register with a central server? Also, what is
        a good webcam package (Intel or Logitech)?
        \_ trying to get all the teeny bopper real time porn from 14 year olds
           in south carolina putting their little titties on their net for
           you to jack off to?
           \_ urlP
           \_ Ewww.
              \_ I'm not making this up.  A friend of mine "confessed" to
                 having a few chats exactly as I describe.
                 \_ And in which correctional facility does he live now?
        \_ & are two services that host
           webcamming. There are many different ways to do it: p2p,
           client/server, etc. Each service has it's advantages and
           disadvantages. For example, some don't do audio and some scale
           based on your available bandwidth.
2002/3/7 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley] UID:24044 Activity:kinda low
3/6     Berkeley Critical Mass 9th birthday ride this Friday
        Gather 5:30 on to ride after 6 pm, Downtown Berkeley BART
        Wild party with bands to follow
        \_ don't get shot by police like jmeggs!
            \_ since when did jason get shot by anyone?
        \_ I ride a push scooter, can I attend?
        \_ I ride a push scooter (and use OS2 Warp), can I attend?
           \_ no you may not!
        \_ will we be riding over the new bicycle/pedestrian bridge over I-80?
2002/3/7 [Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:24045 Activity:nil
3/6     Korn shell filename completion under emacs-mode is <esc><esc>.
        That doesn't seem to work under vi-mode.  How do you do filename
        completion under vi-mode?
        \_ tcsh; <tab>
2002/3/7 [Recreation/Food] UID:24046 Activity:high
3/6     Following up on my cookware questiona while back.  I've decided to
        get a stainless steel cookware set.  I'm wondering if it's worth
        spending more to get the ones that has copper on the outside.  It
        looks fancier but does it make a difference in cooking?  Thanks.
        \_ Yes, it does make a difference if the copper's thick enough, but
           it's also a lot more of a hassle to keep it looking nice.  Good
           copper pans are also very expensive.
           \_ If you don't like the way highly polished copper surfaces look
              with regular use (and no polishing), then go with Falk.  It's
              the same 2.5mm copper/stainless bimetal used by Mauviel and
              Bourgeat (in fact, Falk manufactures this bimetal and supplies
              it to the other two manufacturers), but the copper exterior
              has a brushed finish.
        \_ The heat spreads more evenly cooking your food more evenly.  But
           consider what you're cooking.  Will it matter?
        \_ Yes if it is Mauviel, Bourgeat, or Falk; probably not if it was
           made by someone else.  These three make copper cookware with a
           stainless steel lining; it is expensive, but works very well.
           Every other copper/stainless steel cookware line I'm aware
           of is stainless steel with a decorative copper plating on it
           (such as All-Clad's Cop-R-Chef, or Revereware).  The cheapest place
           I found for real copper cookware is
  for Mauviel.  You can also get
           good prices on Falk at
        \_ copper conducts better, ie. quicker heat, more even heat, and
           most importantly, quicker cooling.   IOW, one of the biggest
           advantages of copper is that it cools off practically immediately
           after you take it off the stove, great for meringue's or other
           such dessert things that are tres heat sensitive.  Otherwise, it's
           not that much better, utility wise than others.  Of course, it's
           a major pain in the ass to keep in "good looking" condition.
           \_ I think you underestimate the utility of a pan that heats
              evenly.  I'm living in an apartment with an electric stove.
              Using copper pots instead of stainless steel eliminates the
              hotspots from the burner coils.
2002/3/7 [Uncategorized] UID:24047 Activity:nil
        The domainname speaks for itself.
        \_ it's a hoax, of course.
2002/3/7 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:24048 Activity:nil
3/6     I have one sunblade that has a CD-ROM drive and one that doesn't.  I
        need to install SW on the one that doesn't have the CD drive.  Both
        machines share the same network.  Is it possible to somehow read the
        CD on one machine across the network and install the software?  What's
        the easiest way to solve this without removing CD drives or hard drives
        and such?  Thanks.
        \_ NFS?
        \_ use NFS. Start nfsd and mountd if they're not running and export
           the file system on CDROM with "share" command. You can configure
           vold to do this automatically every time a CD is inserted.
2002/3/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24049 Activity:nil
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 01:03:09AM -0800, Galen Hancock wrote:
> This thread has become unreasonably long and no longer contains any
> actual content. I suggest you stop cc'ing csua@csua on your messages. If
> you want to feel like you have an audience for your various rants, you
> can cc lwall, which gets plenty of crap anyway.
>                                       Galen

2002/3/7 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:24050 Activity:nil
3/7     The U.C. Berkeley Center for Race and Gender presents:
        Race, Gender, & the "War on Terrorism"
        April 1, 2002 7 - 9 pm 370 Dwinelle, UC Berkeley
        Wheelchair accessible Free and open to the public
        "Terror, Structural Adjustments, and the Warfare State" Ruth
        Wilson Gilmore Assistant Professor of Geography and African
        American Studies, UC Berkeley
        "Women, War and Racism" Linda Burnham Executive Director, Women
        of Color Resource Center, Berkeley
        "Selective Images: The Selling of The War on Terrorism" Hatem
        Bazian Director, Al-Qalam Institute, Oakland
        "Export of Rhetoric:  'War on Terrorism' as Applied to the
        Sexualized Muslim in Kashmir" Huma Dar Graduate Student, South
        and South East Asian Studies, UC Berkeley Executive Board Member,
        Narika, Berkeley
2002/3/7 [Uncategorized] UID:24051 Activity:nil
3/7     is there a way to get what's posted to sent to my inbox?
        \_ subscribe to csua@csua?
2002/3/7 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:24052 Activity:moderate
3/6     hey freerepublic guy, what do you think of bush's
        kowtowing to the US steel industry?  - danh
        \_ it's utter berkeley!  the sacrifice of morals to take a stance
           on some issue clouded by stupidity!
        \_ How so?  By refusing to pick up the steel industry tab?  I'm not
           the freeper guy, btw.  The steel industry is incredibly pissed off
           that the feds won't pick up their pension debts.  What are you
           talking about?
        \_ Isn't this about Bush being able to claim that he stood
           by steel workers and reaping the political benefit of being
           loyal to supporters while at the same time being fully aware
           that this will be shot down by the WTO?
           \_ and trying to balance that against the votes he'll lose by
              driving up durable goods prices...
           \_ I think danh is talking about steel tariffs to protect the
              uncompetitive steel industry. Freeper's are split about it.
              - jeffwong
              \_ Well it isn't free competition if the competition is being
                 artificially boosted by their own tariffs and government
                 subsidies.  It's hard for a company to compete with the
                 entire tax base of a foreign nation.
                 \_ It's not always the government. It's cheaper labor and
                    better "tax incentives," and product dumping by the
                    competition. The fun part is that the foreign companies
                    can get around the US tariffs by selling to Canadian or
                    Mexican companies to ship to the US. NAFTA prevents the
                    tariffs being imposed on them.
2002/3/7 [Reference/BayArea] UID:24053 Activity:nil
3/6     My company is offering a half-day off for me to go volunteer in the
        community. Any suggestions? Preferably something that doesnt require
        me to speak, but just maybe help in the background/low-key.
        Berkeley/Oakland area.
        \_ my probation officer made the same offer, and i cleaned up
           trash in people's park.  it rules. er...ok, so i didn't get
           time off from my job.
        \_ SPCA.
           \_ You get to clean out the dog/cat stalls/cages.
        \_ You can come clean my house and wash my car.
        \_ Habitat for Humanity, BNC (berkeley neighborhood computers),
           the church across the street from the RSF which at 5pm turns
           into a soup-kitchen type place (this one is fun), and more...
        \_ Does the half-day have to be the time you actually go volunteer?
           Or can you volunteer on a weekend and get a half-day on friday
           or monday? If so, look at -- I've been
           going to their events for over 1.5 years now and it's a damn
           good way to spend a Saturday every now and then. -alexf
        \_ Berkeley Free Clinic or the Suitcase Clinic seem to be two
           pretty good organizations in the Berkeley area. I have friends
           that work at the Free Clinic and they really like it.  - rory
        \_ if you want to teach math in an oakland school, email me.
           you could probably just ask an elementary school in your area,
           they would love to take you.  wait is this just a half
           day one time deal or recurring thing?  - danh
2002/3/7 [Computer/SW] UID:24054 Activity:nil
3/7     I'm feeling nostalgic. Could someone hook me up with a free-danh
        monkey? Either post on the motd or point me to one. Thanks.

now     Restored.  Sorry this is a bit old.  I wasn't keeping close track.
        It's better than the empty file in place this morning.
2002/3/7-8 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:24055 Activity:kinda low
3/7     I have some e-mail messages at hotmail that I want to save and
        be able to read on unix, is there a way to export them?
        \_ forwarding to your unix account not good enough?
           \_ if that's the only solution that will work, but I have a lot
              of messages and I'd have to forward them all individually...
              plus, I'd like the messages to have a From field that's actually
              from the person who sent them rather than my hotmail account so
              I can do sorts, etc.
        \_ somewhat related question... is there a way to get e-mail messages
           from Outlook format to a standard unix-like mbox file?
        \_ somewhat related question... is there a way to convert an Outlook
           e-mail folder to a standard unix-like mbox file?
        \_ Doesn't hotmail offer pop access?
           \_ as far as I can tell you can POP from other mail systems into
              hotmail but not the other way around... but i'm not sure.
              \_ Using M$ mail clients (eg, Outlook(Express)), you can treat
                 Hotmail like a POP client and download a whole folder of
                 messages. Then, see above question about how to convert
                 this to UNIX mbox format.              - rory
2002/3/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:24056 Activity:kinda low
3/7     So I get my ballot and stick it in the machine and punch a bunch
        of holes and pull it out and check and sure enough using a machine
        just like the shitty ones in Florida, there wasn't a single extra
        bit hanging out anywhere.  It was a series of perfectly cut out little
        squares.  I've probably got some special technique they're not aware
        of in Florida... or something.
        \_ Woohoo. Based on your one ballot, you now have your career set up
           in front of you as an elections consultant in Florida. Have fun.
           \_ You mean I'm now qualified to count chads?  Sweet!  What about
              pregnant chads from the old folks too weak to apply 1.5 psi?
              Can I count those?  What does it take to be able to properly
              "interpret the meaning" in a ballot?  I really want that job.
        \_ Damn. Forgot to vote. When is the next time they are running
           this pilot?
2002/3/7-8 [Transportation/Car] UID:24057 Activity:high
3/7     Man left to Bleed to Death in Windshield. We have reached a new low.
        \_ If she was white and he was black this would be all over the place.
           Al and Jesse would be at her door step with rent-a-mob in tow.
           \_ has it.  Nothing on CNN.
        \_ If both were black, no mainstream media would bother to cover it.
           \_ And Al and Jesse would also ignore it.  No money to be gained
              from black on black crimes.
        \_ I like how xtasy was involved
           \_ She must not have been feeling the love.
           \_ What about that the lady was a nurse's aide?
        \_ That would be an interesting conversation:
                Man: Are we going to the hospital?
                Woman: Um... Look! Punch bug!
                Man(screaming): That was a Jetta!
                Man: Why are we pulling in here?
                Woman: I have to pick up some recycling.  Tell me, do I
                        have enough room over on the right side?
                Man: No, it appears my broken legs are being squeezed
                        against the wall.
                ...(hours pass)...
                Woman (entering the garage): What are you still doing here?
                Man: Please, just start the engine and let me the
                     exhaust kill me.
                Woman: With gas at 1.50 a gallon?  I don't think so...
                \_ More like, "ARGH!  You fucking bitch!  <gak>" and then she
                   gets another beer and turns on Jerry to drown out the noise.
                \_ Shows what you know. Gas is more like 1.15 in Texas.
2002/3/7-8 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:24058 Activity:high
3/7     How do I disable the "links" cache?
        \_ ?  lynx?
          \_ links is like lynx, but does better layout.
        \_ Ctrl-R to refresh.
2002/3/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:24059 Activity:moderate
3/7     I was looking through the republican primary votes for governor
        by company.  I noticed 0 votes for any republican in Santa Cruz
           \_ county?
        County.  Is this possible?
        \_ Do you know you are not allowed to vote republican in SC?
        \_ Don't you know you are not allowed to vote republican in SC?
        \_ The paper also said our new mayor was elected councilman and ignored
           our council race so take it all with a grain of salt.  It's only the
2002/3/7-8 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/P2P] UID:24060 Activity:nil
3/7     Can someone provide a ref to what the fasttrack network is?  Does
        it feature the same sort of "can't be shut down" features that
        Gnutella does?  Or is it more napster/centralized?
        \_ They claim it can't be, RIAA/etc claim it can.  That they killed
           Morpheus (who used their software but didnt pay their bills)
           instantly says they have some sort of control but it sounds like
           an _intentional_ hole they put in the clients, not a central server
           napster style event.  They are keeping secret the technical details
           of how their network works.
2002/3/7-8 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:24061 Activity:moderate
3/7     Racial profiling in Israel.  Brutal oppression continues....
        \_ Quit trolling.  Racial profiling in Israel is real,  this is
           not one of those instances however.
           \_ They tackled some dude and dragged him out because he was
              a) sweating, b) wouldn't answer the waiter's questions and
              most importantly c) was Palestinian.  Think about it.  No troll.
              \_ Did you read the article?  According to the article, it seems
                 like he actually had a bomb.  I must admit though,  it's very
                 hard to tell since the writing is so poor.  Did they
                 find a bomb, or did they just blow up a suitcase?
                 \_ Did they rough up anyone else or just this one guy for
                    looking nervous and being caught in a cafe being from the
                    wrong part of the gene pool?
2018/11/15 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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