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2002/2/3-4 [Computer/SW/Apps] UID:23758 Activity:high
2/2     Can somebody recommend software that will create forms to be printed
        out on paper (not web forms)?  Thanks.
        \_ Adobe PageMaker.
            \_ A.K.A. "RageMaker"
        \_ QuarkXPress is awesome.
        \_ Microtheft Word can do this, at least for basic forms you can make
           tables and shade them if you wish, change borders, etc.
        \_ Adobe Acrobat can create PDF files which can be filled out by
           anyone with Acrobat Reader and then printed out.  -tom
           \_ yeah i am lazy, i want to use acrobat
2002/2/3-4 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:23759 Activity:high
2/2/02  Is anybody interested in a Berkeley parking space on Delaware, 3 blocks
        N of University b/w Milvia and MLK?  $50/month.  If not, can someone
        recommend a better place to post something like this?
        \_ Craigslist
        \_ http://cruisingforsex.com
           \_ thanks, danh.
        \_ if you change it to 2/02/02, it'd be a palindrome.
                          \_ uh, 2/02/02 != 20/20/2
                                \_ move the /'s left one
                                   \_ Lame.  Plus using 2/02/02 instead
                                      of 02/02/02 is lame.
        \_ is it a secure space, enclosed? -jnat
           \_ It's covered, but there's no gate.  It's well-lit though.
              \_ will they notice if I build a meth lab there?
              \_ what if I hide little kids there?
2002/2/3-4 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:23760 Activity:low 54%like:24745
2/2     In unix, is there an equivalent to "route print" for the table?
        \_ netstat -r
2002/2/3-4 [Uncategorized] UID:23761 Activity:very high 50%like:22238
2/3     Whats a good place around Berkeley to buy racks for my Carla?
        Any places to get used ones? (Ebay didn't have many).
        \_ what kind of car?
        \_ Nice rack, babe.
        \_ Craigslist. Yahoo classified.
        \_ What size cups you want?
2002/2/3-4 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:23762 Activity:nil
2/3     perl is ded.
2002/2/3 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:23763 Activity:nil
2/3     For the Greens
        http://freerepublic.com/focus/fr/621002/posts
2002/2/3-4 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:23764 Activity:very high
2/3     Does anyone know how ISPs like comcast are going about detecting
        the presence of nat devices?
        \_ this is illegal because?
           \_ not illegal, but some ISPs prohibit them in their terms of
              service.
                \_ what isps do that?
                   \_ AT&T, for one.
                        \_ That's why AT&T sent me info saying it's ok if I
                           run a server or do NAT but they can't help with
                           technical problems, right?
                           \_ Sure they did, you lying sack of shit.
                              http://www2.etreenews.org/article.php?sid=487
                              \_ *lol*  Excuse me but fuck you, I have the
                                 SF Bay Area AT&T User Agreement and that's
                                 exactly what it says.  You are allowed to
                                 grow up now.
                                 \_ *lol*? This isn't aol buckwheat. I posted
                                     perfectly accurate and actually helpful
                                     information, which you disagreed with.
I like this flamewar ==>             information, which you disagreed with.
                                     If you have nothing useful to add, just
                                     go away.
                              \_ I think the difference is between using NAT
                                 for computers at one residence and using it
                                 across multiple residences.
        \_ How can they detect that? doesn't their network just see
           one machine (the one running the ip forwarding?)
           \_ some ISPs will look at the MAC address to see if you've got a
              router hooked up.  Of course, this won't work if you've got a
              desktop doing NAT, and a lot of routers can use a spoofed MAC
              address.
                \_ so how else is NAT done?
                   \_ huh?
        \_ This thread was beat to death on /. a week or so ago.
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