Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2002:January:17 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2002/1/17 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:23575 Activity:low
1/16    How do I configure Solaris's terminal window for 'home' and
        'end' key to go to the beginning of line and end of line? My
        tcsh setup works with regular telnet, but in their Term, it goes
        to the beginning of the buffer and end of buffer. Thx.
        \_ I suppose you could edit the termcap or modify your local copy of
           the termcap var.  I don't know of an "easy" way with some command
           line tool.  I don't know of a version of stty that does this but
           you might start with the stty man page for kicks.
        \_ xmodmap?
2002/1/17 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:23576 Activity:nil
1/15    the Redhat 6.2 Box set came with a really good big red
        book called something like _the Complete Redhat linux_
        or something like that.  Can someone tell me where i can
        order that book now (and what it's called if i'm wrong).
2002/1/17 [Uncategorized] UID:23577 Activity:nil
1/16    Is the stupid TeleBears on-line yet?    -91 alum
        \_ yes
           \_ (unfortunately) -current student who has to put up with the
              incredibly moronic interface that is literally just a front-end
              to the telephone interface (there're stories of a mainframe
              actually punching in the digits on the other side)
2002/1/17 [Academia/GradSchool/MBA, Academia/Berkeley/HKN] UID:23578 Activity:high
1/16    How do you view grades? (your perspective on them)
        \_ Like this:
                A: opportunity to work in the industry or research.
                   More likely to go to grad school or get an MBA
                B: coding monkey
                C: sys admin
                D: QA
                F: flunk out, work in the industry and get rich. Hire a bunch
                   of people who got As, Bs, Cs, and Ds (Bill Gates).
                \_ What drugs are you on?  I want some!  QA is QA because they
                   never went to school.  Sysadmins get Bs because they take
                   classes they like but don't show up that much.  Code monkeys
                   get Cs because they take classes they hate thinking they'll
                   be the next dotcom/netscape millionaire.  Cal doesn't make
                   any MBAs.  They all went to Stanford where _everyone_ gets
                   an A.  And those who flunked out went to some JC and now
                   are assistant manager at some shoe store in the mall.
                   \_ gee, the Haas School of Business (one of the top 10
                      business schools in the country) would be surprised to
                      hear it doesn't make any MBA's.  -tom
        \_ Like this:
                A: hard worker and big time ass kisser
                B: hard worker -or- big time ass kisser
                C: hard worker but Prof/TA/grader never sees student in class
                D: hard worker but in wrong class, kissing ass to avoid F
                F: just fucked
           During my time in school I never noticed *any* correlation between
           intellect and grades.  The rest of life tends to reflect this also.
        \_ If there were no such grades as A's and B's, then my report cards
           would look pretty damn good.
        \_ If you're not planning to go to grad school, focus on passing
        \_ they give idiots a false sense of security when they get A's
           (see hkn), and they give smart people a undeserved insecurities
           (see nweaver, maybe).
                \_ nweaver is a smart person?
        \_ As a source of random bits slightly correlated with course
           performance, and even more slightly correlated with
           intelligence/clue.  --HKN member and proud (and not because of
           anything to do with grades or GPAs)
           \_ Sign your name, alexf.
              \_ Hi ilyas. That wasn't me. -alexf
           \_ what would you estimate to be the correlation coefficient?
              \_ From what I've seen in the EECS Dept, they're probably around
                 0.7 and 0.3, respectively. Of course, these are rough and
                 based on rather limited observations. Order of magnitude
                 seems about right though. -above poster
                 \_ Sign your name, alexf.
                    \_ See above.
        \_ where can one find statistics about grades for uc berkeley?
                \_ who cares. Most of the rich & infamous don't have good
                   grades-- Bill Gates, Ellison, W Bush, McNealy... the list
                   goes on and on.
2002/1/17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:23579 Activity:high
1/16    I want to write a simple monitoring script for a webservice that I
        have running. I Was thinking of doing something like just telnet'ing
        to port 80, doing a GET, and grep'ing for a word to indicate that all
        is running smoothly. Is there a way to script such a telnet usage?
        If so, how? Is there a better way to do this? Thanks.
        \_ perl has various ways to contact web servers.  See CPAN.  -tom
        \_ go to and look for 'mon'.  don't rewrite code someone
           else has already done for you.  there's no pretty gui for it though.
        \_ google for Netsaint and thoth.
           \- lynx -dump URL > /dev/null || mail warning --psb
              \_ curl -s URL | grep -q whatever \
                    || mail -s 'warning' person </dev/null   --dbushong
                 \_ Sure but the above methods will spam the crap out of you if
                    you run them often enough to be useful (from cron maybe).
                    Use a real monitoring tool.
           \_ wget  \- not everyone needs a complicated tool. a little shell
                       hack works for a lot of stuff. --psb
2002/1/17 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:23580 Activity:nil
1/16    Another student goes on a rampage and kills professor and dean
        at East Coast Law School.  Haven't found link yet.  They
        say it was over grades.
2002/1/17 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:23581 Activity:nil
1/16    How do you check for your Solaris' video card resolution+depth (SPARC
        not Intel)? Something "xyzprob"?? Thanks.
        \_ m64config
        \_ xdpyinfo
        \_ Solaris 8: /usr/sbin/fbconfig -alan-
2002/1/17 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:23582 Activity:nil
1/16    Mconst, is nlynx like links?  if not is it just a newer rev. of lynx?
        \_ I'm sure you have a man page or FAQ for it, no?
             \_ you are incorrect.                      \_ except this part.
2002/1/17 [Recreation/Food] UID:23583 Activity:very high
1/16    Can someone recommend a low-medium priced restaurant to eat
        dinner at? I'm looking for something with a casual-semicasual
        ambience. Hopefully it will have something unique going for it.
        I was hoping to go to the ethiopiain place Blue Nile, but that's
        not an option for certain reasons. Oh yeah, in Berkeley,
        too. thanks.
        \_ ru looking to score or what?
           \_ yes.
        \_ There was this Thai restaurant next to Chez Peniez (is that how
           you spell it) called Cha Am or something like that. They had
           pretty decent food.
           \_ Long ago they did.  Now they have overpriced tiny portions.
              Dara Lao (next door to it) isn't bad.
        \_ What do you consider low-medium priced?  How many people?  Lunch
           or dinner?
        \_ Blue Nile is too expensive for what you're getting.  The food is
           'different' if you're willing to pay extra for that but just as a
           place to eat I wouldn't do it at current prices.  It's also hardly
           semi-casual.  Any less casual and it'd be McDonald's.
        \_ Skates, at the Marina.
           \_ Skates is pretty expensive for the food quality.  The view is
                nice, but you can't see much if you're there at dinner this
                time of the year. Brennan's is a casual, inexpensive place
                that's unique, but I wouldn't exactly call it "ambience".
                I'd say King Yen is probably the most consistently satisfying
                inexpensive sit-down place I eat in Berkeley.  -tom
                \cancun taqueria, racha cafe, korean bbq, peppermint grill,
                fat apples, sa wooie, some likes viks and BoI, bongo burger.
                need to be more specific. --psb
                \_ racha sucks, psb... we've already talked about this.
                   \- suum cuique. btw, in the $15 range i recommend
                   Saigon Saigon: Valencia @22-23rd. ok tnx. --psb
                   \_ Aren't we talking Berkeley? If you're going to bring
                      SF into the mix, there's 100x as many options.
        \_ I recommend Cha'am too.  There's also a tapas place kitty corner
           to Cha'am on the second floor that has nice ambiance and good food,
           Cafe De La Paz. (
           \_ Have you been to Cha'am in the last, say, 5 years?  After about
              '96, their portions got progressively smaller, and their prices
              wen't progressively higher.  You can't get out of there for less
              than $30/person.  I don't call that "low/medium priced".
              \_ I also have to agree that Cha'am has gone downhill.  --PeterM
        \_ Berkeley Thai House on Channing, just north of Telegraph.
2002/1/17 [Uncategorized] UID:23584 Activity:kinda low
1/16    Just randomness.  What do you think of this?  <DEAD><DEAD>
        A twist on p2p.
        \_ If they can sell it they'll make a bundle.
2002/1/17 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:23585 Activity:kinda low
1/16    Whatever happened to the poor souls who got their degrees at the now
        defunct Args Digita University? Are they able to make it to M.S.
        and/or Phd programs?
2002/1/17-18 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:23586 Activity:nil
1/17    How do I force emacs to tab indent 8 spaces?
        \_ Meta-x set-variable, tab-width, 8
2002/1/17 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:23587 Activity:nil
1/17    Uh oh, the Asians are coming, the Asians are coming!
        \_ "Mr Zhu, addressing Indian IT leaders in the southern city of
        Bangalore, said that if Indian software was combined with Chinese
        hardware, it would lead the world."  Or more likely send the world
        back to the stone age.  Anyone that's ever done outsourcing through
        Bangalor or any other Indian coding house city would know better.  No
        one is coming.
        \_ My experience in this matter confirms this. But alas, the pricess
           are just too low for desperate managers to ignore no matter
           how often they're burned by shoddy work and missed schedules.
           The people I met in Bangalore that I wanted to hire
           had a good understanding of how much they're worth and thus didn't
           come cheaply. The cost savings isn't as much as it is touted.
2002/1/17 [Uncategorized] UID:23588 Activity:nil
1/17    "Fashion Giant Armani Says He's Sick of Luxury"
        What kind of bullshit is that!?
2002/1/17 [Reference/Religion] UID:23589 Activity:very high
1/17    is this some sick joke??
        \_ Not sick--fanatical, but not sick.  -John
        \_ It is neither the work of a fanatic nor sick.  If you understood
           the world outside Berkeley a bit better you'd know this sort of
           person and their way of thinking is quite common.  You're the odd
           one out in this world, not the ultra-edit guy.  He's harmless, why
           do you care how he makes his business decisions?  You on the other
           hand seem to have some issues with unfamiliar beliefs and ways of
           thinking.  The ultra-edit guy isn't the one with the problem.  Why
           do you find his faith so offensive?  (Before you go off attacking
           me as a right wing whacky nut religious freak, I'm not.  I'm a
           true atheist so don't bother.)
           \_ actually your're just boring and pedantic
              \_ How so?  Because I don't beat up on some random guy for his
                 strong belief in God?  I'm sure you're really exciting.  Who
                 else do you beat on that isn't exactly like you?  Does that
                 sort of shallow closed minded idiocy turn on the girls?
                 \_ Well, I can't speak to the boring part, but I believe the
                    poster was calling you pedantic because you managed to
                    generate ten lines of outrage from a one-line troll. As
                    for me, I was amused by the Ultra-Edit guy's line,
                    "From this point we knew that I was going to quit my job.
                    I told a few people almost immediately. I expected non-
                    Christians to think I was crazy, but it's surprising how
                    negative Christians can be also." What, he expected
                    non-Xians to think he was crazy for pursuing his dream?
                    How very peculiar!  --erikred
                       Which definition do you think the sub-genius was
                       using?  I don't think it means what he thinks it means.
                       Anyway, you can join the club with your 10 line reply.
                       I didn't know the motd had a reply length limit.  Silly
                       me.  I thought content mattered, not brevity.  Maybe Cal
                       has finally degraded down to community college levels.
                       \_ Funny, I went to for the definition
                          myself.  I believe the poster intended the common
                          pejorative connotation of one who holds forth at
                          great length on a topic of little importance.  Your
                          reply to me, on the other hand, fits the first
                          definition perfectly.  As for content, quality of
                          content has never mattered much on the motd, as
                          evidenced by your post to the original poster.
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