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| 2001/12/15 [Uncategorized] UID:23249 Activity:nil |
12/14 http://www.theonion.com/onion3744/java_programmers.html links to the "author"'s page. (i'm so confused this is the first time i have EVER thought "is this a real person?" in regards to an onion article. (I have MANY times thought "this is just like a real person" but that is no the same) The Authors page links to Lila's. (http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~lila/humour/startrek/janeway.vs.picard \_reformatted |
| 2001/12/15-16 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:23250 Activity:very high |
12/15 Bush: "I don't know whether we're going to get him tomorrow or a
month from now, or a year from now, or in my second term of office. I
don't really know. But we're going to get him," he continued."
\_ <DEAD>www.smirkingchimp.com<DEAD>
\_ Is self-confidence a crime now?
\_ you misspelled "arrogance"
\_ Bush would've spelled it that way.
\_ Funny that no matter how well the man does some
people are still stuck swallowing leftist media
noise. Do you also think it's ok to sell secrets
to foreign powers for DNC cash infusions?
\_ Do you have any evidence backing up your paranoid
fantasies? URL please.
\_ You're as bad as all those people in the Arab
world who unequivocally accuse the US of
doctoring the bin Laden tape without any
actual evidence they it was doctored. Like
them believing anything al Jazeira says without
proof, you believe anything the RNC says
without proof. So unless you actually saw
Bill Clinton hand over a pile of secret military
documents to another country, shut the fuck up.
\_ Amazing. So unless I *personally* see a
crime take place it couldn't possibly have
happened? So let's say I break in to your
place while you're gone and steal all your
stuff. You later find your stuff at my
place but you didn't see me take it. You're
cool with that? What's your address? I'm
coming by for a visit.
\_ Congratulations, this is among the most
pathetic posts I've read on the motd. As
we all know, it was just a vast right
wing conspiracy. Uh huh.
\_ This is nice. You have nothing more
intelligible to say so you retort
with an inane comment. And stop
putting words into my mouth.
\_ Ok, ask yourself why Clinton
was spending his time jerking
off in the Oval Office sink
instead of counteracting
terrorist threats?
As for Bush doing well, people said he was
doing a great job handling the matter hours
after the attacks, even though he didn't actually
do anything yet. It was the NYC mayor who was
in charge of the situation there, not Bush. But
it's natural to rally around your president
during a crisis as big as this. The same thing
happened to FDR right after Pearl Harbor. Does
the fact that thousands of people died all of
a sudden make him a great president? No. He's
done things by the book and, of course having
the largest military in the world, it's not
hard to come to the conclusion that we're going
to kick the Taliban's ass. In my opinion, Bush
has made several critical faux pas, most of
which were by his attorney general. His ability
to communicate effectively as a statesman (yes
it is part of your job as president) has been
meager at best and his choice of words an
embarrassment to our country. And I don't think
he has the diplomatic skills to handle the
international coalition in the long term. He's
already done and said a lot of things to piss
off a lot of countries (the war itself is not
one of them - military tribunals, security
council veto, planning to wage war against
Iraq, etc...) and the only reason why other
countries are condoning the US is because we
were victims to a horrific attack. Once the
war in Afghanistan is over, we're going to lose
support and isolated from the world unless
Bush changes his attitude. Of course, I'm sure
\_ While Bush is no Reagan, compared to Gore
hes the fucking Messiah. What are you
an ambassador from a foreign country?
Exactly why are we supposed to care
what socialist euro-trash think? This
argument about pissing off other
countries is ridiculous, yet its
repeated incessantly by the media pukes.
there are csua Republicans here who are
insistent that "other countries" in the world
are irrelevant and that the UN should be
destroyed.
\_ You seem a little upset. Perhaps some
Prozac? I've been waiting for years to
hear exactly why it matters what other
counrties think of us. So let's say Syria
and Gabon and uhm BFE all decide they hate
the U.S. so much they're declaring war.
They pull their ambassadors out and print
bad things about us in their government
run newspapers and on their governement
run tv/radio. Ok. Yeah? So what? And?
Still waiting....
\_ If we cared more about what
other people thought of us, we
might not have had whackos crashing
planes into buildings. That's not
enough reason for you to care about
international relations?
\_ Keep on watching CNN little sheep.
\_ I read the NY Times, not the Drudge
Report. And stop trying to pretend
to be 3 separate people posting
to the motd. I know you posted the
other 2 above.
\_ Nothing wrong with the Drudge
Report. 99% of it is just links to
big media newspapers online. Unless
of course you have a problem with
big media (which you should if
you're smart).
\_ As opposed to selling weapons to foreign powers
to fund a rebellion against another foreign
power?
\_ What's wrong with that? You really don't
see any difference between selling out your
own country and screwing around with some
little banana republic???
\_ Non-sequiteur.
\_ Not at all. Care to try again? Look up
the word "hypocrite" and come back.
\_ And, while we're at it, how to spell
"non sequitur." |
| 2001/12/15 [Uncategorized] UID:23251 Activity:nil |
_ Perhaps you should put this on a web page and post a URL.
/ |
| 2001/12/15 [Computer/SW/Languages, ERROR, uid:23252, category id '31298#8.23' has no name! , ] UID:23252 Activity:high |
12/14 i've been contemplating a serious career change, back to teaching
english. maybe not in the same form. i've been how in japan
there hasn't been enough people with computer skills to handle
the job requirements so maybe i might try something like that
there. but today really disturbed me. at work two of the senior
guys were talking about "weeding people out." i think the thing
that got to me was the tone that they used. it was snobbish and
elitist. it got me thinking about how the industry works and
what's been going on. it's pretty sad actually. there's quite
a bit of arrogance on behalf of computer science people. then i
read an article over on slashdot which discussed how computer
science people wanted to be laisse faire regarding policies in
government. there's obviously this double
standard/paradox/oxymoron that is going on that's really irking
me. the thing it seems is that computer science people are these
ayn rand clones that believe they can live in a world of their
own and as long as no one disturbs them they won't do anything.
but the thing is that's not realistic and far too egocentric in
thinking. it sucks that there are people in CS who do it for the
money or don't have as sincere of an interest in the field, but
people have to eat and live. that's just life. the problem with
that mentality is that it still creates an elitism, a social
divide that does affect people. i've seen people at interviews
that have kids and need jobs. maybe they aren't the best people
for the job, but you're not going to get perfection. i dunno.
it really sickens me to hear that.
i've become so paranoid that i trust no one at this point. i
suspect everyone of doing wrong and being the enemy. it sucks.
the thing that's really sad is that i like computing. but it's
the people that fuck it up. same as music. i like metallica's
(old) music but i hate them. i'm starting to think the whole net
thing is going to end up being like the ending of jurassic park
1 where everyone, especially the chief scientist, realize that
it's something that man shouldn't handle because he's incapable
of the responsibility. so the secret must be hidden from man
until he's ready. perhaps the net revolution will collapse on
itself as it seems it's doing until it's only utilized by
researchers in universities again.
\_ Now _THIS_ is a troll. Watch and learn, people.
\_ Buddy, get laid and relax a little. It's only work.
\_ psb, is that you?
\- no, you cant just do a key word match. --psb
\_ See kids, this is what happens when you smoke pot and go to college
\_ This poster is clearly an idiot or someone posing as one, but (at
the risk becoming troll bait) I do think libertarians are really
misguided... and there is a curiously large number of libertarian
programmers for some reason. anyone have a guess as to why?
\_ The real world is a messy place. I think these libertarian
programmers don't like that -- they want to try to reduce
the world to a small set of simple principals that sweeps
all the messiness under the rug. |
| 2001/12/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23253 Activity:nil |
12/14 I think we should all work to make sure that every crappy "you must
login to use" has a csua/csua user/pass combo.
\_ Ok, I'll cover NY Times, you cover the porn sites. -phil
\_ Good idea. |
| 2001/12/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:23254 Activity:nil |
12/14 [ Troll deleted. ] It wasn't bad, it just came at a bad time,
immediately after the WORK OF ART below. Wow, I still can't believe
that the motd can still produce such quality material after so many
years.
\_ i disagree. one judges a troll not on some abstaract quality,
but on the nature and volume of responses. I'll post my troll
again in a couple of days, and i bet it will be more effective
than the one below. I think that I made a mistake in using
bad english in the troll, though. The best trolls are
*almost* legitimante posts, but have some key flaw that
peple can attack, thinking they're the only ones who see it.
_ Perhaps you should put this on a web page and post a URL.
/ |
| 2001/12/15-16 [Recreation/Food] UID:23255 Activity:very high |
12/15 A momemnt of silence for Fenton's: http://www.fentonscreamery.com \_ This was in the news a few weeks ago. \_ They were the restaurant of the bourgeiosie \_ What are you smoking? Have you been there? The food is not very good. The service horrible. The ice cream is the only thing going for the place. It's the reason I am waiting for it to re-open. \_ Fenton's is a family place, and like most family places, the focus isn't on the food. The ice cream is pretty damn good. -tom \_ I thought it was more quantity (ice cream) than quality (ice cream) \_ Look up bourgeiosie and realize why you just made a fool out of yourself. \_ I think you've both just made fools of yourselves. First of all, its "bourgeoisie". Second, I can't think of any reason why Fenton's would be a particular example or counter-example of bourgeoisie dining. \_ Why not leave it at "I can't think..."? Since you obviously cannot. \_ man, you're so funny and clever. But if your point is so damn obvious, why don't you just make it? \_ I miss Leatherby's. \_ Where in Fremont can you find an ice-cream parlour? When I was in Jr. High (early 80s), there was Farrell's in Fremont Fashion Center.Damn long time ago. What was the name of that standalone arcade/bumper-car place in the same Nothing beats having ice-cream with your date. \_ how about having sex with your date? big and Pinball was still king. This was even before Chuck E Cheese (PacMan! Tempest!) opened near the Gemco. When I was in Jr. High, there was Farrell's Ice Cream in Fremont Fashion Center.What was the name of the standalone building/nightclub and arcade/bumper-car place in the same shopping center? They had the old mechanical baseball arcade games. Oh man, long time ago. Space Invaders was just getting big and Pinball was still king and games took quarters instead of tokens. This was even before Chuck E Cheese (which debuted Tempest! Missle Command!) opened near the Gemco. That was the first time using tokens. And what happened to Frontier Village? With that fishing pond and sloped floor. Okay, back then it wasn't a date, just having ice-cream with the girl you liked. All right, secretly liked. |
| 2001/12/15-16 [Uncategorized] UID:23256 Activity:nil |
12/15 Motd trimmed based on # of responses & age of original. Trimming was
not done based on content; sorry if your favorite thread is gone. |
| 2001/12/15 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:23257 Activity:high 83%like:23265 53%like:36311 |
12/15 http://www.washtimes.com/national/20011215-68264047.htm MOTD POLL: Bin Laden will: Be found dead: . \_ it may take 25 years, but everyone dies eventually. Be captured alive: Escape: . Surrender: Beat back the evil western hordes in the name of Allah: . \_ The Washington Times is one of the few newspapers worth reading. |
| 2001/12/15-16 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:23258 Activity:kinda low |
12/15 I have cable srevice by at&t, but I don't think this is a problem
with my cable service. Basically, I have a linux 2.2 natd box for
connections from my internal network. I have win98/ win2k/linux
behind the natd box. WHen I ssh out (OpenSSH_2.3.0p1 or ttssh),
if I am idle for say, 5 mins, the connection is cut..reset
by peer. Why does this happen, and how do I fix it?
\_ I don't have this problem with a similar setup. Could the other
side be idling you out? I _have_ had that problem.
\_ This is a problem with ipchains. It doesn't have any state, so
it has no idea about connections and things like that, so to keep
from having NAT sessions open forever, it has timeouts for inactive
NAT sessions. I forget where you change this (it's been years since
I used ipchains, since iptables (linux 2.4 filtering) is so much
better.) however, I'll bet money that that is your problem. Look
it up in the ipchains HOWTO, I believe it is in there, and increase
the timeout for TCP, since the default is something low, like 5
minutes. There may be a way to get ssh to send connection keep
alive packets, which would solve the problem without having a large
timout value, so I'd look into that as well. Or, just switch to
2.4, and use iptables. Stateful packet filtering is your friend.
-- ajani
\_ thanks! when i was using ipf on openbsd I kind of took this for
granted.
\_ NAT is stateful by definition. You can't do NAT without keeping
session state information. NAT session timeouts exist in all
implementations, not just ipchains because if you don't expire
the idle sessions, there is a higher chance that the NAT session
state table will eventually fill up. What Linux iptables adds is
a session state tracking for non-NAT sessions as well.
\_ Uh, the ipchains NAT session timeout default is way bigger than
a few minutes. Check the HOWTO, it is more like several hours. |
| 2001/12/15-16 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:23259 Activity:nil |
12/15 How do you add/change a security certificate in IE 5.0 Mac Edition?
\_ Evil + Evil = Really Really Really Evil.
\_ what a shitty answer. typical of the CSUA.
\_ No shit. Evil + Evil = 2 * Evil.
\_ hmmm, let's see... this is a question about Microsoft software
on a Macintosh asked on a computer science unix machine
populated by uber geeks and wanna-be uber geeks. What were
the odds you'd get a real answer? Anyway, sorry if it's been
a while since I had a math course. I defer to the greater
math skills of the person who replied 2*Evil. I was wrong,
so shoot me. |
| 2001/12/15-16 [Uncategorized] UID:23260 Activity:nil |
12/15 http://www.berkeleyartisans.com |
| 2001/12/15-16 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:23261 Activity:nil |
12/14 Al Qaeda Training Manual
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm
It was mentioned in an NY times article but not linked. I google'd
it on usdoj.gov. Pretty interesting read about some of what the
terrorists are learning/teaching. |
| 2001/12/15-16 [Uncategorized] UID:23262 Activity:high 50%like:21883 |
12/15 Motd Poll
Think Different:
Dude, yer gettin a Dell:
\_ What was wrong with my poll? Why do people destroy such simple
non-offensive things?: ... |
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