11/14   Is there a word that describes a body/corporation/government which
        claims to abide by the laws but sets the laws and its interpretations
        arbitrarily?
        \_ Lawful evil.
        \_ We call it a 'church'.
           \_ Yes, in the Temple of the Supreme Court
              \_ Yeah, down with the system, man!
              \_ move along, there's nothing to see here, your man lost by
                 every counting method on the table, get over it.
                \_ not to beat a dead horse, ok fine, read this:
                   http://slate.msn.com//?id=2058603 - danh
                   \_ Big yawn.  The whole Florida election was chock full of
                      votes that probably should have been counted but weren't
                      and votes that were counted but shouldn't have.  You
                      can't pick and choose which piles of valid/invalid votes
                      you'd like to include and ignore all others and then say
                      "my guy won!".
                \_ yes, and i'm still bitter the most powerful man in the
                   world got elected by statistical margin of error,
                   and i don't think anything can happen that will change
                   this, no matter how many "SORE LOSERMAN" t shirts
                   you throw at me.
                      \_ But that is what Bush did! Face it man, that election
                         was well within the standard of error. Bush was
                         elected by mistake. Literally.
                         \_ and if Gore got elected it would have been outside
                            the margin of error?  be realistic.  it was a close
                            race, and whoever came out ahead would have had a
                            statistically insignificant lead.  If Gore had won,
                            that would have been a mistake too.  Who cares.
                            it's over.
                \_ Gore is liar and an ego-maniac.  Contrary to the media's
                   best caricature, he is not intellectual - he's
                   a pro big-government, pro-tax bureaucrat.  Just look
                   at his policy initiatives as VP - they were disasters.
                   BTW, try to formulate an opinion apart from
                   parroting the mass media.  Why are people in general
                   so inclined to align themselves with graduates of
                   journalism school - as if that is a credential to do
                   anything whatsoever.
        \_ politburo
           \_ that's paolitburo
              \_ paoloburrito

11/14   Ever since I started watching "The Gilmore Girls", I've been having
        mother/daughter sex fantasies.  Is that normal?  Doing it with my
        GF AND her mom.  HOT!
        \_ Go see "The Graduate".
        \_ So you really mean it when you tell your GF to "come here to Daddy".
        \_ You watched the Gilmore Girls more than once?
        \_ Gilmore Girls obviously causes deviant sexual behavior. We ought
           to boycott the show. I feel for you. It's not your fault that you
            are not normal.
           \_ are they both good looking in your opinion?

11/14   paulos what'd you get on your GRE?

11/15   Hey, all you freaks who need a wtc fix, go read Sum of All Fears ('91)
        by Tom Clancy.  You'll find it highly relevant.  Feel free to
        skip uninteresting sections -- you can always go back.

11/15   Anyone knows where to get the SPI standard?
        \_ http://www.oiforum.com  SPI-3 was originally POS-PHY3, and you might
           want to poke around PMCS and see if they have any information
           regarding that or SATURN.
           \_ sorry, wasn't specific enough.  i mean Serial Peripheral
              Interface (SPI).

11/15   What does the %u mean in my .mailcap file? RFC1524 doesn't say.
        I see it used by the RealPlayer8 installation, but it breaks
        when I try to play non-RP audio (like wav) unless I change %u to %s
        \_ No idea.  It isn't in the man pages for mailcap on two different
           systems I have.  Try the source.

11/15   Since the undergrad labs are moving to Hearst Mining Caverns,
        and the current office is falling into ruins, is the CSUA
        going to relocate to Hearst too?
        \_ youre not really talking about the caverns behind hearst ,
          are you?  when i was an undergrad, there was a mine shaft back there,
          but it was coollapsed in one section, and was small with only
          one room, and you had to crawl thru mud to get in.
        \_ Something happened to Soda hall?  Why are people moving away.
           -- alum
           \_ recent rains flooded the CSUA office.  curiously it didn't
              flood the office to the left, or to the right.  what's
              up with that?  the soda faculty plan to move the undergrad
              labs to Hearst in The Near Future
                \_ It's obviously a conspiracy.  You have no evidence that the
                   profs didn't plan it this way.
                   \_ Or the XCF?
                      \_ XCF is effectively dead. They got kicked out of 311
                         into a little broom closet (346 Soda) for not
                         doing anything visibly productive and living in the
                         office. They=={eric,vadim,and now misha}
                         \_ The XCF has been dead for years.  Making it semi-
                            official doesn't change anything.
        \_ from the nuclear wasteland to the mining wasteland??

11/15   http://soda.berkeley.edu is no longer resolving to csua.. will this be
        fixed?
        \_ No.  it was announced YEARS ago that this could go away at
           any moment.  --hostmaster@nic.berkeley.edu
           \_ Most students weren't here YEARS ago.
              \_ Those newer students were told to use "soda.csua...." when
                 they first got their accounts anyway.
           \_ only STUPID FUCKING OLD IDIOTS would ever know about
              http://soda.berkeley.edu and still try to use it. --hostmaster
                \_ Because being old makes you stupid I suppose.  Tell us when
                   you get there.  Or maybe you'll be under 30 forever.

11/15   man take your sick anti-loyal trash to North Korea.
        stupid so-called 'conscience objectors" like you should try
        living there and see if you can produce this kind of self-
        destructive thought. (Voluntarily decline supporting your
        own military?!?) It sickens me that sickos like you are
        protected by the 1st Amendment.
        \_ "Love it or leave it" and "My country right or wrong".  Your
           opinions are invalid.  Man take your sick fanatic nationalist
           trash to North Dakota.  Jesus H. Christ, man, please get
           a fucking clue.  -John
        \_ good point! you tell 'em!
        \_ Not to defend the other guy (I missed what he said anyway), but
           what you're trying to say is, 1st Amendment is good as long as
           you're patriotic and you don't voice a dissenting opinion.
        \_ http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1657000/1657368.stm
           Mullah Omar notes a larger plan for the destruction of America.
           He says, with God's help, this will occur in a short period of time.
           He asks you keep in mind this prediction.
           \_ Sort of like Nostradomus.
           \_ Sort of like Osama.
        \_ I dug up the original post from the archives.  It was the standard
           anti-war protester meeting from the usual suspects.  I don't see
           why it got this big response or what NK has to do with it.

11/14   The Jews did it with inside help from the CIA, coordination from Elvis
        on the mothership hidden behind the moon and Bigfoot was there on the
        ground in his invisibility suit painting the targets with lasers.
        http://www.paknews.com/main.php?id=7&date1=2001-11-04
        \_ but what about the reverse-vampires?
           \_ Who told you about the reverse-vampires?  Now you'll have to die.
              \_ did anyone here besides me read Thrasher magazine in the
                 early 90's?  there were alot of funny letters from vampire
                 skaters.  ah the good old days.

11/15   TROLL, Come Forth And Identify YeSelf!
        \_ Which one?  It's a myth that there are only trolls and non-trolls
           and the two groups are disjoint.  Anyway, even if you had a list of
           every troll and what each one posted, so what?  What would it get
           you?  Finally, keep in mind two more things: one person's troll is
           another's interesting topic of discussion and for the real trolls,
           it takes two: a troll and a trollee.  Don't be a trollee.
           \_ IMO, Ye Need To Be Run Through With A Sharpened Stick!
           \_ Don't be stupid.  It doesn't take two to troll.  Some trollers
              post shit and respond to their own shit with some other shit.

11/15   76000 HS students need to retake the SAT because their tests are
        still being held at Trenton NJ. What about GRE takers?
        \_ nah they just have to wait a little longer, the
           offending colleges will wait.
           \_ Maybe.
        \_ Because of anthrax?

11/15   DNS PROBLEM. CSUA staff, can you please check the external DNS?
        only the www.csua.b--- is working. http://soda.berkeley.edu is not.
        thanks!
        \_ This has been expected for years. CSUA does not officially "own"
           http://soda.berkeley.edu. You've been told many times to use the csua
           prefix.
        \_ Is your attention span so limited that you can't read or scan
           the motd all the way through to see this topic already covered?
           \_ Can the CSUA Politburo lobby to keep a pointer from <DEAD>s.b.edu<DEAD>
              by suggesting this name has been around for a long time and
              is in many web pages, used by many people etc. A reasonable
              hostmaster shoud allow this if reasonably asked. Two big ifs
              perhaps.
        \_ Just out of curiousity, why can't http://soda.berkeley.edu be used
           by the CSUA?

11/15   Buy XBox! Don't buy the games!

11/15   Is there any camera rental place similar to Adolph Gasser but is in
        East Bay, preferably near Fremont?  Thanks.