Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:November:01 Thursday <Wednesday, Friday>
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2001/11/1 [Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:22889 Activity:low
10/31   Does anyone know what it means when "domainname" exist with status 9
        on a solaris machine? domainname return the right string but the
        exit code isnt 0 for some reason. ok tnx. --psb
        \_ It means Sun broke something with their patches. It is Sun
           bug #4502131. Suspect patch 108991-17. --dim
           \- oh right on. tnx. is there is fix, official or unofficial?
              right now i just changed the script to accept status 9. --psb
              \_ T112138-01 in beta from Sun. --dim
                 \_ Anyone have a copy of that?  Put in soda /tmp?
2001/11/1 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan] UID:22890 Activity:very high
10/31   English-dubbed hentai sucks ass
        \_ watching LA Blue Girl again?
           \_ Trying to. The dub makes it almost like work.
              \_ alien tentacles and pussy juice power. what more do you
                 need to understand?
                 \_ I don't think I need to expand upon the
                    superior quality of the orgasmic moaning in the
                    original Japanese...
                    \_ don't forget the rapid high-pitched intakes of breath
                       \_ Oh yeahh. That's the stuff.
                    \_ Does the main girl ever get any from a human? Those
                       tentacles must chafe
            \_ Oh yes, YES.  You don't really want someone as big as I am to
               pull out, do you?
               \_ Oh christ -- is the dubbing THAT bad?
            \_ I noticed recently that my boss has the same shape hair as the
               doctor in Oh Genki Clinic - nasty mixed methaphor, that.
        \_ Forgive my ignorance, but what is hentai?
           \_ japanese anime porn.
           \_ hentai is the japanese word for "pervert" and has come to mean
              the porn (usually extreme porn) subset of japanese anime
              (still and animated)
              \_ isn't anime originally a French word?
2001/11/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22891 Activity:nil
10/31   If I can't attend the meeting because it's Halloween and I have
        better things to do, can I vote absentee on any motd issues?
        \_ If you have a life, then you don't deserve the honor of
           attending a CSUA General Meeting.
           \_ the csua general meeting, where the elite meet to perform
              neat democratic feats.
           \_ uh... is finishing my HW early and then going to Castro
              so crazy of an activity that no nerds in CSUA should be
              able to do it?
2001/11/1 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:22892 Activity:very high
10/31   How to Ask Questions the Smart Way
        http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
        \_ [description added to appease the motd url nazi(s)]
        \_ Or, start with:
           http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/sextips/intro.html
           that'll help you to more quickly realize what an idiot esr is, and
           understand how worthless his "advice" is on any topic.
             http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/sextips
           that'll help you to more quickly realize what an idiot esr is,
           and understand how worthless his "advice" is on any topic.
           \_ Good god he's ugly.
              \_ Ever seen Paul Vixie in person?
           \_ U D0N'7 N0 WH47 U R T41K1NG 4B0U7! 35R R3U13Z! H3 15
              1337 GN00/L1NSUX H4X0R! H3 15 S3C0ND 0N1Y 2 RM5 & L1NU5!
        \_ Why are all these linux geeks such big jackasses? I have yet
           to meet a linux geek who didn't think that we was the best
           most enlightened coder/human being to ever exists on this
           earth.
           \_ If you have to ask, you don't know?
           \_ As opposed to BSD jackasses?
              \_ with linux geeks, it's a delusion (that they're the
                 most enlightened coder etc.).  with bsd geeks, it's
                 the truth.
              \_ Most BSD users/developers I've met aren't jackasses.
                 They seem to be normal people who use BSD because it
                 does what they need it to do. Most linux geeks seem
                 to be recovering windows lusers: My oc'ed dual celeron
                 2GHz running RH 7.5 is better than an E10K!
2001/11/1 [Uncategorized] UID:22893 Activity:high
10/30   How's job hunting going?
        \_ Got one.
        \_ Got one, but I'm not sure playing tetris counts.
           \_ if it pats the bills hey, good for you. --jon
        \_ Got one in March after last company folded in January.  Is $108k a
           good pay in this economy for 8yrs of experience in device drivers?
           \_ oh shush
           \_ yes?
           \_ Yes, it's slightly better than my unemployment check.
              \_ how does unemployment work anyway?  where is that money
                 coming from?  Social Security fund?
2001/11/1 [Computer/SW/Mail, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:22894 Activity:very high
11/1    How does one enable mail relaying in sendmail (FreeBSD)?  Does soda
        have mail relaying?  Thanks.
        \_ No, soda does not relay mail.
        \_ sendmail: http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html
           FreeBSD: 4.x: edit /etc/mail/`hostname`.mc and run "make"
           in /etc/mail     --dbushong
           \_ Basically I need root access.  Damn.  I think that means I
              have to shell out more $$$ to get my ISP to relay mail.
2001/11/1 [Finance/Investment] UID:22895 Activity:nil
11/1    machines that make useful change from loads of spare change.  where?
2001/11/1 [Reference/Military] UID:22896 Activity:nil
11/1    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/flight.risk/weapons.html
        Proof that redneck states have more weapons violation
2001/11/1 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:22897 Activity:nil
11/1    Cold war's over and there hasn't been a dog fight since the 80s.
        Why the heck do we need F-22s and Joint Strike Fighters when no
        other country has air dominance over the US?
        \_ Go look up the history of air battles in Korea and you'll know why.
2001/11/1 [Computer/HW] UID:22898 Activity:nil
11/1    While we had a good art-making session this past Sunday, more  to be
        done to prepare for TOMORROW'S visual display on Sproul, "Made in
        the U.S.: A Legacy of Death and Warfare." The display will be 12:00
        to 2:00, around the SATHER GATE area, to get teh most attention.
        We will also resume the art display, and have performances, and
        spoken word, in the evening, from
        5:00 to 7:00 on Sproul. We have the PA reserved for the evening.
2001/11/1 [Uncategorized] UID:22899 Activity:nil
11/1    Anyone noticed that Tawei Liao has pubic-hair-like hair?
        \_ You have a keen eye.  But I'd say my hair looks more like that
           of a 70s pimp rather than "pubic".  My hair can become quite big
           if I don't cut it often.
2001/11/1-2 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:22900 Activity:high
11/1    Are there any Latino and/or African American members in CSUA?
        \_ I'm latino...
        \_ Do you mean Latino or Hispanic?
        \_ several
        \_ grep Jose /etc/passwd | grep -v Joseph
           \_ How come Jose Bermudez has two logins?
        \_ egrep (Laqisha|Shontee|Laqintas|Tyrone|Wayan|Buba|Denzel)
           soda% egrep (Laqisha|Shontee|Laqintas|Tyrone|Wayan|Buba|Denzel)|wc -l
                 1
           \_ It's Bubba (buh-buh), not Buba (bew-ba)
2001/11/1-2 [Uncategorized] UID:22901 Activity:kinda low
11/1    It's really sad that the govt has to spend money on publications
        such as this because of some pedantic fool out there:
        http://www.irs.gov/ind_info/friv_tax.pdf
       \_ Have a cookie.
       \_ I guess the IRS has been getting too many inquiries from those
          people who believe in every chain e-mail they receive.
2001/11/1-2 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:22902 Activity:high
11/1    OpenBSD 3.0 (with Sparc64 support! woohoo!) available for
        pre-order (ships Dec 1): http://www.openbsd.org/items.html
        \_ Can you buy a Sparc without a Sun operating system?
           \_ you can't and supposedly Solaris is "free" anyways.
              A good question is, why would you want to use OpenBSD on
              a new Sun machine? The point of buying a Sun machine is to run
              Solaris on it. Get it PC if you need to run OpenBSD.
              a new Sun machine? The point of buying a Sun machine is
              to run Solaris on it. Get it PC if you need to run
              OpenBSD.
              \_ Solaris doesn't run well on all Sun machines. Most
                 of the older hardware (first generation ultras
                 included) is too slow for Solaris 8. I'm mostly
                 interested in decommissioning my SS20 running OpenBSD
                 and installing a Ultra1 running OpenBSD in its place.
                 I'm just happy that I'll be able to do that. I did
                 not mean to imply that you should go out and buy
                 new Sun hardware and dump OpenBSD on that.
                 BTW, my experience has been that OpenBSD runs far
                 better on Sparc hardware than on x86 hardware.
                 \_ Do you mean on Sparc hardware and x86 hardware of
                    comparible prices?
                    \_ Roughly comparable prices. I used to run
                       OpenBSD on a P2 350 (~ $300 at the time)
                       and I switched to a SS20 (150 MHz Ross).
                       Although compiles are slower on the SS20,
                       almost everything else (disk, network)
                       is faster and I've had no crashes because
                       of dodgy 3com nics.
        \_ quit regurgitating stuff off of slashdot
           \_ not everyone reads slashdot.
        \_ Why would you want this?  What computing problem do you need
           to solve that needs OpenBSD and Sparc64?
           \_ I would like to run a secure and reasonably fast OS
              with IPv6 and IPSec support on my Ultra1. Right now
              my only real choices are NetBSD or Solaris 8. NetBSD
              is a pain to install and Solaris 8 is way too slow on
              this hardware.
              \_ Are there hard numbers/benchmarks that prove that Solaris is
                 slower? Also, Solaris is a bit of memory hog. Adding more
                 RAM will almost certainly speed things up if you got Ultra1
                 with only 64 or 128MB.
              \_ Are there hard numbers/benchmarks that prove that
                 Solaris is slower? Also, Solaris is a bit of memory
                 hog. Adding more RAM will almost certainly speed
                 things up if you got Ultra1 with only 64 or 128MB.
                 [ reformatted ]
                 \_ Yeah, I noticed that Solaris runs pretty well
                    on the Ultra1 with 256 MB or Ram. Maybe "way
                    too slow" was the wrong choice of words. I used
                    to run 2.6 on the U1, which seemed pretty fast
                    for interactive use. Since upgrading to 2.8
                    the machine seems to runs much slower. Even
                    with more memory it still swaps more than 2.6
                    and io seems much slower than on my SS20 with
                    soft updates enabled.
                    I think that Solaris is optimized more for SMP
                    configs in the latest versions so the UP perf.
                    isn't as good as it used to be. I have a 2x300
                    U2 and a dual proc U60 at work, both of which
                    run exceptionally well under Solaris 8.
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