Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:September:06 Thursday <Friday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2001/9/6-10/10 [Science/Electric] UID:22320 Activity:nil
9/1     Halt due to AC failure.
2001/9/6 [Uncategorized] UID:22321 Activity:nil
9/5     Carly Fiorina is a total fucking bitch.
         \_ You have obviously mistaken us for someone who gives a damn.
2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/Security] UID:22322 Activity:low
9/5     does shit like this still happen?
        or is that only in backwater states?
        \_ um dude, that's livermore, ca.
        \_ and what's wrong with it? an idiot woman brought an idiot suit
           to court, and the case was dismissed.  BFD.
                /- I think she IS an idiot, trying to make up for her own
                   bad parenting skills.  Obviously, this kid knew what he
                   was doing; (printing his school schedule over the top
                   of a "scantily clad woman"--how much money did he get
                   for that from his buddies?) the library was just a means
                   to an end. --sowings
           \_ I don't think the woman is an idiot.  I think this scum is smart
              enough to realize that she can probably make some quick bucks by
              filing this idiot suit and reaching a settlement.  Oh did she
              remember to get the media involved?  Oh she might even be able to
              write a book afterwards on how her son's innocence was violated
              and how she was physically and emotionally hurt and how she
              spent years in turmoil before she recovered and blah blah blah.
        \_ You are right, this is terrible. Those librarians should be shot.
2001/9/6 [Uncategorized] UID:22323 Activity:high
9/5     Is it just me, or is King Of The Hill really damn reactionary
        and offensive?  Or is it a real depiction of live in Texas?
        Every time there's a young woman, she's "Going to make someone
        a good wife."
        \_ hi chialea!
        \_ That's not offensive
          \_ no siree. That's family values. Shame you dont get women
             in california.
        \_ No. neither. _KOtH_ is MAKING FUN of that attitude.
           You are obviously too dumb to take your political convictions
           so seriously.
           feminist: n.) One who, realizing that women are oppressed and
           miserable, has failed to notice that condition among everyone
           else.       - crebbs
2001/9/6 [Uncategorized] UID:22324 Activity:high
9/5     Is it bad to spend most of section staring at your TA's ass?
        \_ Good TAs don't spend all of section with their backs to the
        \_ Is he cute?
2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:22325 Activity:nil
9/5     DEADBEEF, CAFEBABE, what else.
        \_ D000B015 --pld
        \_  grep '^[a-fo]*$' /usr/share/dict/words   -- misha
            \_ grep -i '^[a-foizsg]*$' /usr/share/dict/words | tr \
               '[a-foOiIzZsSgG]' '[A-F0011225599]'   -alexf&&officehosers
               \_ [] and '' are not needed for tr. -- 0XCF31337
               \_ well if you're gonna go that far you might as well add
                  in the '7' == 'T'... personally I wouldn't go beyond 0,1,5.
                  this problem is not complete until you compile a list of all
                  8-letter combinations.
                  \_ sorry all, I'm dumb... what are we looking for here?
        \_ ABEDBABE
2001/9/6 [Uncategorized] UID:22326 Activity:nil
9/5     I'm trying to find a site that had long details about Disney's
        original plan for epcot, and his "city of tomorrow".
        I thought it was something really simply, like
        "", but that's not it. Anyone know?
        Google is no help so far.
        \_ how about, "Epcot, the city where chinks,spics and niggers know
           their place." - former disney employee.
        \_ oops. just found it.
           Go look at it, if you dont know the true purpose for EPCOT
           Hmm. Except it doesnt seem as detailed as the site I
           remember. drat.
        \_ THat is from the weakest link?
        \_ you sick bastard!
2001/9/6 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:22327 Activity:nil
9/5     Does anyone know where one can find rent control laws and ordinances
        of Santa Clara.  I remember a new law that went into effect beginning
        of this year saying that rent increases greater than 10% requires at
        least a two month advance notice.  -phlo
        \_ I can't believe a cal alum can't even use google or da yellow pages
           or city hall or the mayor's office to figure out something
           as Berkeley as Rent Control.
        \_ Try HUD.  -- yuen
2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:22328 Activity:nil
9/4     Apple's "free" patch is no longer free...
2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/Unix, Computer/SW/OS] UID:22329 Activity:nil
9/4     Is it possible for a unix kernel to communicate with its user
        processes by just using shared memory?
        \_ yes, its done in device drivers all the time
           \_ what mechanism or api are they using?  shmget, ...
              \_ the program mmaps the device driver's dev file.
                 there is an entry point for mmap in the dev sturcture in
                 the kernel, just as there are entry points for read and
                 write. -ali
2001/9/6 [Computer/Networking] UID:22330 Activity:nil
9/4     So is it hard to sign up for AtHome or PacBell DSL given all these
        changes of epic proportions?
        \_ Well, they're still advertising their services
        \_ I switched from firstworld to pacbell dsl by going to
           It was quite painless. Once I got router and the ip info from
           sonic, all I need to do was edit /etc/hostname.qe0, /etc/mygate
           and reboot.
2001/9/6 [Uncategorized] UID:22331 Activity:nil
9/4     Now for something completely different. Anyone know of a decent
        c++ wrapper for pthreads?
                \_ Schmidt's ACE toolkit?
                   \_ way too big for my needs.
2001/9/6 [Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:22332 Activity:nil
9/4     If you havent expessed your interest in linux for PlayStation2,
        consider bumping up the momentum again:
        \_ what is the use for Linux running on a ps2?
           \_ that's not the POINT! The linux "kit" comes with a
              hard drive and keyboard AND VGA adapter.
              so then you have a single relatively cheap device that
              will play kickass games, DVDs, AND websurf, AND...
              Hey, at minimum, I'd think the VGA adapter will clean up
              the res even more than a component output cable, since
              you get to use a "real" monitor on the other end now.
              \_ except a game has to specifically have support for the vga
                 adapter, which of course none have.  It doesn't just work.
2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:22333 Activity:moderate
9/5     Stupid Questions:
        Postgre SQL seems to be a better Database, but why MySQL,
        which lack of nested queries, foreign key, and other major feature,
        seems to be used more in the real world than Postgre?
        \_ Because it's comparatively easy to set up, and is "good enough".
           It's the microsoft syndrome.
           \_ Postgres isn't hard to setup.  In fact, it's very easy.
              \_ yeah, it is cake.  Was mysql first?  I suspect this is just
                 one of those critical mass things.  MySQL was first to reach
                 100 monkeys.  I used mysql first because all the hip PHP kids
                 were using it, saying how great it was and that it was the
                 fastest thing out there, when i set up my apache-php and wanted
                 a database a couple years ago. I just recently installed
                 PostgreSQL -crebbs
        \_ I first started out using MySQL, and liked it well enough.
           Eventually I moved to postgres, but I've found some things that
           irk me a bit.  Getting PGSQL to allow network connections to
           the database was one hoop.  Trying to add columns to a table,
           and giving that column a default value and placing restrictions
           on it (NOT NULL) doesn't seem to work under postgres.  Admittedly
           I haven't used it that much to try to REALLY work past these
           problems, but that's one man's 10,000 foot view.  --sowings
        \_ There are still good reasons to use MySQL.  It's optimized for
           _read_ performance, both from a speed and integrity point of view.
           If you're rarely putting data in in large quantities, and have tons
           and tons of accesses, and you know how to guarantee integrity
           yourself, MySQL might be a good choice.
           \_ philcompress!  philcompress!  philcompress is the STANDARD!
              way to efficiently store data without guaranteeing integrity!
2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:22334 Activity:high
9/5     In C++ how do you detect that a constructor failed to execute
        successfully? I've got this ugly hack that sets an instance
        variable which my code can check, but I'm looking for something
        a bit more elegant. My C++ fu is really weak as I've been a
        C programmer way too long.
        \_ Throw an exception from the constructor if it fails, and catch
           the exception wherever you want to deal with it.
          |_ Thought that was in Java.
        \_ The above response is the preferred method. --jsjacob
           \_ Thanks. Looks like my soln. was equivalent to the "zombie"
              idea, but I'll try to use an execption instead.
        \_ It returns NULL?
           \_ Constructors do not return anything.
           \_ Your an idiot. [sic]
2001/9/6 [Computer/Theory, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB, Politics] UID:22335 Activity:nil
9/6     Rank in descending order of intelligence:
        alexf, misha, mconst, tjb, twohey
2001/9/6 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:22336 Activity:nil
9/6     What the f*ck!!!???
        "Feds Stop Seeking Microsoft Breakup"
        F*ck the GOP!
        \_ First of all, this isn't exactly new information.  Second of all,
           the judges unianimously agreed that microsoft still needed to be
           punished -- they just disagreed with the idea of a breakup as the
           proper punishment.     -mice
        \_ But push polls show that most Americans favor Microsoft.
        \_ don't worry, if this doesn't make the market go back up nothing will
        \_ So what? Breaking them up would have been dumb; it didn't make sense
           in terms of solving the real problem. Breaking up AT&T worked because
           it created competing entities. Breaking MS into operating systems and
           apps would not do anything about the underlying OS monopoly. The
           aim should be to promote competition, not just arbitrarily f*ck with
           the company. Personally I don't think they have a monopoly any more
           than Sony has a PS2 monopoly. How come I can't play GT3 on Dreamcast?
           \_ It would be easy to break M$ into competing companies. This is
              just more proof that our government is entirely bought and sold.
              \_ How would you do it then? You'd have to somehow enforce
                 application compatibility between two competing OSes. Which
                 you can't do without castrating their ability to develop new
           \_ This is a bad analogy. Baby Bells, whether they were split or
              remained a single company are still a monopoly. Spliting MS is
              more quivalent to disallowing Baby Bells (be they one or many
              companies) from providing any services such as long distance
              calls in addition to the basic phone services.
2001/9/6 [Uncategorized] UID:22337 Activity:nil
9/6     I'm looking for a kitchen utensil that consists of a plastic handle
        with a series of removable sponge attatchments that can be used for
        cleaning the inside of a glass.  i got one from someone along time ago,
        and need to get replacement sponges, but i dont know the name of the
        company that makes them or the name of the tool.   any ID of
        this product would be very helpful.  thanks.
2001/9/6-7 [Computer/Networking] UID:22338 Activity:very high
9/6     Has anybody purchased a "Catch-a-call"? Supposedly, you
        plug it into the phone jack and you can now recieve
        phone calls while logged on. -fab
        \_ Why would you be using your telephone line to log in?  Do you
           live in some third world country?
                \_ Yes, I am working in South Side Chicago - a third world
                country. No DSL in my neighborhood, phone lines can't deal
                with cable modem, etc. Just - does this gadget work?
                Yes or no? -fab
                \_ Your phone lines can't deal with cable modems?  You poor,
                   poor soul.
                        \_ South Side Chicago really approached a third
                         world country in many respects. -fab
                           \_ I say, son, I keep on a'pitchin' 'em, and you
                              keep on a'missin' 'em.  you're missing the joke.
                              are you saying you can't get cable TV over phone
                              lines in Chicago either?  Man, that sucks.  What
                              about power?  No?  Jebus.
                \_ Why not get a second phone line or a cell phone then?
                        \_ gadget==$70, extra phone line >> $70 -fab
                           \_ Move to Palatine or something.
        \_ there's a product called Hot-Call.  If a call comes in
           while you are on (requires call waiting), the hot-call product
           rings.  You can choose to answer or ignore.  If you answer,
           your modem connection will end.
                \_ the catch a call add claims you can do both. Is this
                bogus? or even possible? -fab
                \_Read the fine print fab: "If you decide to answer the
                call... simply pick up the phone at your station. CAC will
                "Flash" the line for you automatically, putting the
                computer and ISP on-hold for you. (The computer usually
                disconnects at this point, since it does not "Hear" the ISP
                any longer)."
2001/9/6-7 [Uncategorized] UID:22339 Activity:kinda low
9/6     Welcome to the 60 HR club, Barry. Good luck in overtaking Ruth's
        1920 as the best season ever.
        \_ Did the Babe play in a park with a 300ft right field?
2018/11/17 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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