Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:August:29 Wednesday <Thursday>
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2001/8/29-30 [Computer/Networking, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:22277 Activity:kinda low
8/29    I have PacBell DSL with 1 dynamic IP.  I don't have the $$$ to buy
        a router with NAT.  I'm looking for software NAT for windows 2000.
        Is there such a thing?  I know freebsd can do it, but I can't run
        freebsd.  And hopefully some firewall capability too.
        \_ It eez built eento windoze 2k.  look et help undr "Internet
           Connexion sharing".
        \_ check out http://www.zonelabs.com for free firewall(basic
           version).
        \_ You're paying $40-$50/mo for the connection and can't spend $80 for
           a hardware firewall/router/etc.?
2001/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:22278 Activity:nil
8/29    how's ie6?
        \_ The Spawn of Satan
           \_ Worse than Netscape 6.1?
           \_ It's that good?
2001/8/29-30 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign/Asia/India] UID:22279 Activity:high
8/29    KABUL, Afghanistan (August 26, 2001 12:53 a.m. EDT) -
        Afghanistan's Taliban militia banned the Internet on Saturday and
        ordered the religious police to punish users according to Islamic
        law, the official radio station reported.
        \_ "Sharee don't like it. Net in the Casbah, Net in the Casbah."
           \_ Sharif, shereef, or sherif but definitely not Sharee. --dim
                \_ not to mention it DOESN'T FUCKING SCAN!
        \_ Which Islamic law did the Internet violate?
           \_ More like, The State will decide for you what ideas you
              may be exposed to, what information you may access, so that
              The State can be assured that people will think the way
              The State wants.
              \_ I see.
        \_ "Thou shall not believe anything not provided by the STATE"
        \_ I think there could be a big market selling nazi-ass filtering
           software to the Chinese and Afghanistani Gvt's..
           no one's registered <DEAD>nazisoft.com<DEAD>
        \_ Can you believe this? US has supported Taliban militia through
           out the 80's, to overthrown Socialist government.  I think
           American should be happy that US policy, our tax dollars has
           worked the way it was intented.
2001/8/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:22280 Activity:kinda low
8/28    Have there been any explanations why www-telebears has been so bad
        this semester?  I haven't been able to get through since my phase I
        \_ I think most of the people who post and read the motd are near
           30 years old (e.g. tom, psb, etc etc)
           \_ I'm not 30. I'm 22. I use Tele-Bears on the Web. It has
              sucked for me too but I don't know why.           -rory
        \_ New freshman don't know about phone telebears and are constantly
           using web telebears (instead of infobears) to check their schedule.
2001/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Solaris] UID:22281 Activity:nil
8/28    Can anyone on a Solaris box consistently view this CNET video at:
        http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6839693.html
        If so, can you tell me which version of solaris, netscape & realplayer?
        I've gotten it to work maybe 1 of 10 times, but I'm stupid.
        \_ Solaris 8 + realplayer 8 + netscape 4.78 works. Sound is Ok but the
           video is quite jerky. Could be a server/bandwidth issue.
2001/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/Languages/JavaScript] UID:22282 Activity:nil
8/28    Is it possible in a *nix browser to turn on javascript for certain urls
        and to be able to enumerate those urls?  For instance i want to turn
        it on at http://bearlink.berkeley.edu but i want it off for
        <DEAD>www.microsoft.com;<DEAD> and i don't want to have to keep clicking
        on the preferences menu to do it.
        \_ No. Get Zone Alarm and do it that way.
        \_ Konqueror, the KDE browser is really good in this respect.
           It has a really clean interface that allows you to turn
           javascript on/off on a per site basis.  As a bonus, it lets
           you do this with cookies too.  Opera may do this, though I
           have not personally used it.  I know both run under Linux,
           though I don't know what support is like on other unices. -dans
           \_ I agree with dans.
2001/8/29 [Computer/Companies/Apple] UID:22283 Activity:high
8/28    Cupertino Ranch 99 has pulled the lychee jello stuff.  --paulwang
        \_ is this related?
           http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/abc/20010816/ts/candy010816_1.html
           \_ Probably.  But you can choke this way with other things like
              ice cube or pieces of apple too.  Are we over-protecting our
              kids?
              \_ But apple chunks aren't super lubricated and most kids
                 couldn't swallow an ice cube because it's too cold,
                 hard, and big.
                 \_ Doesn't being less lubricated make apple chunks more
                    likely to stop at the throat, hence bigger likelihood
                    for choking?
                    \_ Apples don't have coagulents that stick to flesh and
                       negate the heimlich maneuver.
                 \_  much like my cock
                 \_ can you really choke on ice cudes? I Always thought
                    they'd melt before causing much bodily harm.
                    \_ But it takes a while to melt.  Plus very cold ice sticks
                       to flesh.
                       \_ WTF, who eats ice cubes anyway? It's bad for your
                          teeth. That's kind of sadistic to feed them to kids.
                          Hey Billy, here's a treat, an f'n ice cube! oh boy!
                    \_ much like your cock
2001/8/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22284 Activity:nil
8/28    How long do we get to keep our CSUA account? Will we get a warning
        if it is about to be closed? I have graduated but it is my connection
        to UCB. Thanks.
        \_ have you ever read the motd before?  have you noticed alot of
           people here are in their thirties?
           \_ You know, I _have_ noticed that there are motd posts by people
              in their 30's... good thing everyone signs their YoB.  --1976
        \_ you can get an alumni.eecs account.
           \_ I can? How?
        \_ You keep your CSUA account until you get squished.  Even after
           you die!
           \_ So don't do/SAY anything stupid!
2001/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:22285 Activity:kinda low
8/28    I use my cory account to ftp from campus labs when secure
        alternatives aren't available, so I basically treat it as
        hacked/hackable.  But assuming that I need to get to soda from
        cory, which is more secure-- password-based normal logins, or
        password-protected DSA files?  Or are they both about the same?
        \_ Why are secure alternatives not available? You can always use
           scp to transfer files or just log in with Java ssh with those
           library machines.
           \_ I use the NT/Mac machines in Evans/Wheeler/LeConte.  I've
              never once been able to use scp/sftp... something about
              incompatible ssh versions.
              \_ probably not incompatible ssh versions, probably that
                 they just have some free windows ssh client that doesn't
                 support scp. Try just using the command-line windows
                 ftp combined with s/key. That should do the trick.
                                      - rory
                 \_ Is there a good web s/key calculator that doesn't need
                    java?
              \_ Get WinSCP.  Very good graphical scp for just this issue.
                 http://winscp.vse.cz/eng --scotsman
                 \_ WinSCP has some pretty nasty UI issues.  Better than
                    nothing though.
                 \_ Also PuTTY/PSCP (Google search "putty") -- schoen
                \_ I think the problem is that these apps aren't installed
                   in campus labs.  I've mailed admin about it; no response.
2001/8/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:22286 Activity:high
8/29    What?  Now they tell us the G-Spot doesn't exist?
        http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010829/hl/gspot_1.html
        \_ Only if you can't find it. It's out there. ;)
2001/8/29-30 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:22287 Activity:insanely high
8/29    In the past few years I've been hearing a lot of bad things about the
        quality of UCB EECS. I've heard that they're system level stupid
        (Java-centric), editor incompetent (pico), and non-UNIX savvy
        (M$ NT, MFC C++, etc). Is this true with the grad students?
        \_ Latest I've heard is that 162 (OS) is taught in Java now.
           \_ Holy shit!
        \_ Ya, but recently, students have been programming GUI's in 61b.
           That wasn't done too often 10 years ago.
        \_ We had an intern this summer (EECS Junior) who had trouble
           using the UNIX/Linux CLI (tar/gzip/make/cc). He used pico
           almost exclusively, but he knew his C and Perl quite well.
           I don't think that this is limited to Cal. We have some
           guys from UIUC who can barely use vi/make/cc correctly
           and struggle on systems without X11 but if you ask them
           to debug code they can do it quite well.
        \_ it's not the tool they use but how they use the tools.
           If you want Unix + emacs + gcc , you are just as locked
           from reality as the people you're attacking.
           \_ I've been in the industry for 8 years and I still use Unix and
              emacs everyday in all of the three jobs I've had.  I'm also using
              gcc in the third job right now.
           \_ replace "want" with "insist".  But then this has been an
              often beated down topic not worth revisiting.
        \_ i don't think it's the responsibility of a university to teach
           you how to use the programming tools of the day. it's job is
           to show you the big picture and understand the underlying
           concepts. it's assumed that you are smart enough that you
           could start using MFC correctly after 2 days even though
           you've been using Qt for 3 years. Fundamentally, there is
           nothing different between gcc+emacs+gdb/vc++, or gtk,qt/MFC,
           or C++,scheme/Java. If you don't know how to make the
           transition, you either missed the point of school, or you
           should be attending a vocational school. -ali.
        \_ Arrrrrrrrrrgh, matey!  UCB EECS today warn't nothin' like the
           swashbucklin' days of yore, when manly men like m'self walked
           the decks of Cory Hall!  Back then, we built our own calculatin'
           machines out of gears we milled ourselves from rods of iron!
           We 'programmed' 'em by movin' the gears into place with wooden
           sticks, powerin' the whole works by leather belts attached to a
           waterwheel!  Men could lose their fingers in works like that --
           you could tell the real 'hackers', because they were the ones
           walking around with nothing but stumps for hands.  Lily-livered
           Windows-usin' nancy-boys that they let waltz out of the program
           these days -- wait 'til they meet *me* 'round a dark corner
           someday!
           \_ you had milling machines? you had waterweels?  jeez.  I remmember
              spending my first two years here running on a treadmill to
              power the machines for the upper division classes, and cutting
              gears out of mastadon tusks with bits of sharp rock.
           \_ and you'll what, club them with your stump?
           \_ you are right!  Try taking CS 164 with VT220 terminals.
              \_ Achoi could work on his 162 project with one VT220 terminal in
                 Cory.
           \_ this is one of the funniest things I've seen on the motd in a
              while.  thanks for making my day.
           \_ HAHA!!! What planet are you from?
           \_ You didn't happen to write Myst and Riven did you?  That would
              explain all the inane puzzles....
              \_ Both Myst and Riven were written by Christian Fundies, what
                 more explanation do you need?
2001/8/29 [Finance/Investment] UID:22288 Activity:nil
8/29    dow below 10,000 by week end.
        \_ yay!  now what about the nasdaq?
           \_ It's already below 10,000
              \_ Oh no!
        \_ So short it. --dim
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