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2001/8/4-2010/9/30 [Uncategorized] UID:13376 Activity:nil |
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2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21995 Activity:insanely high |
9/3 Vote to log the motd to identify motd nukers and people who discussion as a routine cleanup, but you happened to have posted i guess isn't necessarily to reprimand but to make sure your fuckup can be reversed. anonymity, which is essential (IMHO). I think that the auto most of the folks having this discussion haven't been to a \_ Doesn't look very ruined to me. I've seen the CSUA's books. a bigger mail quota." Not much charity there. I've seen \_ I've never heard a request for alumni to give talks. any further info. The last time I wanted to donate, I'd love to help out. ----ranga \_ no. \_ How about a automatic archiving system? It could create a web page with the motd contents every five minutes or so (depending on the rate of changes). Pages older than a week could get deleted automatically. It seems like this could preserve the anonymous nature while preventing the periodic automated nuking. \_ i agree with this almost totally. what i really want is an undo system so that when some dubass fucks up the motd by repeating some post 10 times or nuking an active thread, i can undo his action. it would make me happy if the motd got prcs'ed and i could run diffs against happy if the motd got prcs'ed and i could run diffs against it easily. the side effect however is that some people might get identified. \_ I have been RCS'ing the motd on my own for years now. Shouldn't be too hard to make restoral scripts. -ERic \_ What's the best way to do this? Does this involve a script running in screen? I'm a unix dope. \_ I have a question about what constitutes a "wrongful deletion". Suppose the motd is several hundred lines long with a discussion near the end that is several days old. I happen to delete this discussion as a routine cleanup, but you happened to have posted to the thread just a few minutes before. I didn't intend to censor your post on purpose, but you don't know that, so I would get lumped in with the motd hozers right? \_ i think what you're saying gets solved by logging. the point i guess isn't necessarily to reprimand but to make sure your fuckup can be reversed. \_ The problem with logging is that it doesn't allow for anonymity, which is essential (IMHO). I think that the auto archiving + undo feature mentioned above would be the way to go. \_ Why are voting on this? You have no authority to enforce it, most of the folks having this discussion haven't been to a politburo meeting in YEARS, and haven't been eligible for longer! \_ because i'd like to know what other people think. \_ Some of us have donated and will continue to donate money and hardware to the CSUA. We like this forum and don't want to see it ruined. \_ Doesn't look very ruined to me. I've seen the CSUA's books. Not that many people are donating. Usually when someone does make a donation, it's along the lines of "My mail spool filled up so I'm going to donate a hard disk so I can have a bigger mail quota." Not much charity there. I've seen how pathetic the responses are when the politburo asks Alumni to come back and give talks. I'm not saying all the alums out there are this apathetic, but a lot sure want to have a lot of say in how soda (and the CSUA for that matter) is run without contributing much. \_ I've never heard a request for alumni to give talks. I would have done so if I knew about it. \_ I have always been willing to speak and donate. I volunteered for the Startup panel but never recieved any further info. The last time I wanted to donate, the current set of hardware had already been purchased and I was told that when more was needed someone would email me. If more hardware is needed please contact me, I'd love to help out. ----ranga \_ the csua is in much better shape today than it was 4 years ago financially. less need for ask for alumni donations \_ isn't posting to motd a waste of time anywayz? \_ no. |
2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21996 Activity:high |
8/3 Paolo, who wants to work with you? Also, do you guys have anything that you could actually call "technology", or do you think you can actually survive with a bunch of Servlets that send content that is "optimized" for wireless? Aren't there about 150 companies doing just that? \_ that's 200, punk. but only one of them has Paolo! There can be only one! \_ I don't work there. I'm just a stockholder trying to help out a company. Someone said they needed a job. So much for being helpful on the motd. - paolo \_ Ok, can you ask someone who works there (dans, do you work there?) the same question. -op (original posta) \_ It seems like a select group of people are very unhappy with care about pleasing everyone all the time. you. What gives? \_ dunno. I have my own circle of friends, and don't really care about pleasing everyone all the time. People really resist change around here. Change is important for an organization to keep in contact with current membership. Some people fear that. As it goes around, "every group has to have a boogeyman". I guess that's just me, because i bring change to the static, decaying system that used to be the csua. It's kind of funny tho how i've met a lot of alumni in person at parties and such other events and found most to be very friendly and helpful. Anyway, i've been told by my friends to pretty much ignore motd/wall/tom, so I think I'll take their advice. of alumni in person at parties and such other events and found most to be very friendly and helpful. Anyway, i've been told by my friends to pretty much ignore motd/wall/tom, so I think I'll take their advice. \_ I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that you delete my MOTD posts, and have set up scripts to automatically delete the MOTD every 3 minutes, in direct violation of soda policy, while lying to the CSUA and the politburo about it. -tom \_ I think you should wield Molly, my crowbar of righteous indignation. -John \_ Is that related to the Mace of Hospitality? \_ it's related to my fireaxe. |
2001/8/4 [Uncategorized] UID:21997 Activity:kinda low |
8/3 I am using my 1st amendment right to disagree with your posting. \_ No! You're wrong! -John |
2001/8/4 [Recreation/Media] UID:21998 Activity:high |
8/3 Anybody seen "The Follow" by Wong Kai-Wor on link:www.bmwfilms.com What do you guys think of it? \_ It's good. Much easier to watch than Fallen Angels or Happy Together, which are very slow moving. The Follow is slow moving, but it's only five minutes long. \_ But I still dont understand the ending fully. \_ Her husband(who's also supposed to be a star) hires clive to make sure she doesn't run off from him. Clive sees the bruise on her eye and gives the money back to the guy that hired clive. (If you still don't get it... She was running away from her wife-beatin husband.) \_ I saw it only once but I didn't get it either. How did you know about the black eye? I guess I have to see it again to catch that. \_ Was the black eye really that stealth of a shot that everybody missed it? Geez Louise. \_ No, this person must have been reading email while watching the short or something... it was pretty damn hard to miss... \_ For me, I saw the injury, but I still thought I missed something so I watched it with the director commentary and then I understood. I guess I'm just a dope. \_ He only beat her and hired Clive after she ran away with another man and started cheating on him. \_ It's Wong Kar-Wai. \_ It's Kar-Wai Wong (first name, last name, US Style!) \_ There are a few sites out there that list his movies movies as being directed by both Wong Kar-Wai and Kar-Wai Wong. http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1803471119 \_ Does the first/last name thing represent deeply rooted cultural differences between the East and West involving the role and/or importance of the family versus the individual? Have people written papers about this? Or perhaps a kinneydrivel? \_ today, it is commonly known that asian families stress that family goals and needs are higher up than your own individual wants/goals; but the whole written name order im sure came alot earlier, definitely way before modern america which is the epitome of individualism, so i doubt that name order actually reflects cultural differences. Also asian culture dramatically changed with the introduction of confucian ideals, which is probably when the shift towards family over individual concept took hold the most, and so any cultural differences came from that. \_ Some asian cultures don't even use a family name. |
2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21999 Activity:high |
8/3 paolo, why did you lie to the CSUA and the politburo about your policy violations? -tom \_ Tom, what the fuck is your problem. What part of motd != politburo don't you understand. Are you even a student? \_ I have sent a complaint to the politburo already, and they have ignored it. Hence the public complaint. -tom the politburo's domain of responsibility. Tom is alleging that paolo used/uses a script to auto-munge the motd. I'm not - student, !paolo \_ Son, auto-munging of the motd is a squishable offense. That is the politburo's domain of responsibility. Tom is alleging that paolo used/uses a script to auto-munge the motd. I'm not sure I can explain any more clearly than that. -!tom \_ Daddy, how am I supposed to know that from Tom's post at the beginning of this thread? And, how does posting to the motd about the matter inform politburo? All it serves to do is rile the soda public, most of whom don't attend politburo meetings, and, even if they did, will NEVER be eligible for politburo again in this lifetime. Oh, and, by the by, are you a student? - 1st respondent \_ I had more details in the MOTD, but paolo keeps deleting them. What possible bearing does my student status have on the matter? -tom \_ i dont see why you can't answer his question --motd \_ We will be discussing paolo's conduct at the first CSUA General Meeting after the semester begins. \_ What part of "Tom wants to have an _open_ discussion" do you not understand. In this case, whether Tom is a student or not is irrelevant to whether or not Paolo is doing anything. |
2001/8/4 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:22000 Activity:high |
8/3 Is it possible to have a machine dual boot between Win2000 and FreeBSD? I heard that Win2000 needs to be the last OS installed but I'm wondering how strict that requirement is. Thanks. \_ Odd. I have several Win2k and Linux dual-boot systems. I install Linux *last*. --PeterM \_ But does it matter, Linux or FreeBSD? \_ installed win2k/freebsd on my ibm laptop. works --jon \_ On the contrary, I installed Win2K/Linux on my Sony Vaio a while ago and I seem to remember something about Windows being dumb and not working if it doesn't boot from the first part of the hard drive. \_ There's definitely an issue with Win9x in this area but not 2k. I think 9x needs to be on the first drive or something, plus it will blow away any boot managers when installed. \_ Win9x needs to be on the first partition of your primary drive. However, what you do is install it, then install *nix somewhere else, and use a halfway-decent boot manager to that installs over the Win9x one. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. -John \_ So bottom line (if there is one), does it matter if I install Win first or FreeBSD first? \_ I concur with John... do what he said. |
2001/8/4-5 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Industry/Jobs, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:22001 Activity:insanely high |
8/4 In general, do people find a difference working for managers with different racial background? Does the cultural/racial background of your supervisor affect how the team is run? \_ yes. When i'm managed by a team of monkeys, they seem to just confuse techonolical facts by screaming loudly at meetings and throwing around feces. Oh wait.. I guess there's not much diff. \_ fuck you, dude. you need to get a clue. \_ Relax the head. It is a legitimate question, even if it's gotten your PC engine revving. Different ethnicities often as fast as the blacks, are generally very quite, polite and translate into different cultural backgrounds, and thus, varying ways of dealing with other people, or with work, with hierarchy, etc. -John \_ yes, I find that generally my black managers are very loud and crass... and my asian managers, though not able to run as fast as the blacks, are generally very quiet, polite and intelligent. \_ how true it is. \_ They're also astonishingly good at math. \_ They also frown upon people who arrive after 8 AM and leave before 8 PM and take an hour for lunch. \_ I find differences in all managers, regardless of race. I've had six managers, all caucasian, and they ranged from senile to intelligent, from hands-on to "I dunno what a function is", from socialable to introverted. \_ I think culture plays such a big role here. I've had Caucasian mgrs who are just absolutely great; maybe because they have such a cheerful personality that you can get along with them like buddies and they understand young people. Then I've also had a Taiwanese manager who's old-school who grunt when you leave work before 7 PM, who keep on raising the bar on you and so demanding that they really don't give a shit about your life outside work. No stereotype here, but old school hard working managers often expect their subordinates to do the same, regardless of race -jthoms \_ I've worked for asian, indian and caucasian managers and I have to say that the caucasian managers were the best of the bunch. They knew where their technical limits were and they knew how to deal with personality problems and how to defend thier team in meetings with higher ups. I recieved larger option grants, bigger bonuses and better equipment as rewards for a job well done under caucasian managers than under the others. Asian and Indian managers never wanted to reward or promote anyone, they were just interested in covering thier own ass and getting as much out of you for as little pay as possible. The asian and indian managers never realized that if you like the company and the work you don't have to be forced to show up and work. \_ it's the horrid "Thou shalt suffer as I have suffered." philosophy. Very stupid. Very "lets reinvent the wheel". \_ They may influence how the team itself is built. I watch a manager in a "neighbouring" department hire programmers.... and strangely enough, 3 out of the 4 new hires all spoke cantonese. Pure coincidence that she was a cantonese-speaking chinese woman, eh? \_ not to stereotype or anything, but I hate Cantonese workers. They have a high tendency to talk loudly and have a high tendency to talk about stock market, BMW, dim-sum, \_ Best manager I ever had was a tall slender blonde woman --asian guy so on and so forth. And they rarely mix well (read-- no assimilation) with other Asian race. Say no to Cantonese, Once had a Taiwanese manager and he was cool, confident and good jokes, never grunted, probably atypical. --asian guy the bane and the embarrasement of the Chinese race. \_ Where is cantonese spoken? Mainland? Taiwan? HK? \_ guang dong provence, which is where guang zhou is. guang zhou == canton \_ the ones you see here are usually from Hong Kong. \_ wtf are you talking about? embarrassment of the Chinese race? I find southerners (cantonese) to be more friendly and easy-going than stuck-up northerners. northern food sucks too. (and before you accuse me of being biased, one of my parents is from the the north, and the other is from the south.) \_ I don't know what you mean about rarely mixing well. Since most Cantonese had British education, their English is usually pretty damn good. I don't know what the hell you mean about not mixxing well with other Asian races. Who DOES mix well, in Asia? Yes, they tend to be on the materialistic side, but seriously, how many in the bay area are not? I can not see how they would be any worse than say the Taiwanese. \_ This is common among all races. Indians hire indians, Vietnamese hire vietnamese. This behavior is especially promoted by referal bonuses. If anything, my impression was that the Cantonese seem the most equal opportunity among the Asians. \_ There are two type of indians, one who will hire only other indians and the other who will hire anyone other that indian. I have not found this phenomenon in other cultures (except perhaps caucasian). Anyway, as an Indian I tend to be reluctant to hire other indians because I don't trust them to do a good job. \_ Best manager I ever had was a tall slender blonde woman -- best support, best pay and bonuses and review and had sense of humor. Once had a Taiwanese manager and he was cool, confident, told good jokes, never grunted, probably atypical. Had 3 male white bosses, all fine. Differences may be due to culture or background or the fact that white folks are used to being the rulers in command of their subordinates in American society whereas others are just struggling with no role models. Certainly, being a manager involves people-skills and being with people of like mind and background helps smooth things, but that does not mean it's anything more than a minor issues. You may even differences will help the project. And to be a good, valuable worker or manager nowadays, esp. with global corporations and customers, you need to learn to work w/ others. --asian guy \_ I'd love a tall, slender blonde woman too, but for reasons other than you said... \_ is that you, my little lollipop. |
2001/8/4-5 [Uncategorized] UID:22002 Activity:high |
8/4 And all this time we thought that Keanu was the one when the one turns out to be Jet Li: http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/the_one.html \_ i wish jet li would get a better agent. this movie looks like stupid timecop rehash. \_ And timecop was a rehash of time trax... \_ The entire kill one guy and get his power stuff and the there can only be on stuff seems like it was ripped of from Highlander. |
2001/8/4-5 [Health/Disease/General] UID:22003 Activity:moderate |
8/3 One day they might come for you http://www.cpswatch.com/reports/nccan.htm http://www.governmentchildtheft.com \_ The only way they will take my kid or my gun is to pry them from my cold dead hands. \_ That's exactly what happened to this Chinese dad who was mistakenly believed to be sexually abusing his 8-year old daughter when he was just administering medicine because the daughter had some vaginal infection. \_ The only way the feds will take my kids or my guns is to pry them from my cold dead hands. |
2001/8/4-5 [Uncategorized] UID:22004 Activity:moderate |
8/4 How do I send an environment variables to all sessions started from KDM? Can it be done from init? I want all of the users on my local machine to know that MUSIC_CD should be /dev/acd0c (for cdcontrol). thanks. \_ echo 'MUSIC_CD=/dev/acd0c ; export MUSIC_CD ; ' >> /etc/profile |
2001/8/4-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:22005 Activity:nil |
8/4 Guy who wanted to know about the java job: \_ Ok, can you ask someone who works there (dans, do you work there?) the same question. -op (original posta) \_ none of the original team work there. They all left because they wanted to go back to school; (among other things). the job is a 40 hr a week job, and requires "face time" (as the mgmt call it). So, this kind of job is not good for students; but good for people seeking fulltime employment for a little while. - paolo |
2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22006 Activity:nil |
8/4 motd nuked and partially restored... bitch. |
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