6/17    Read an article I wanted to burn today-about how the oracle programmer
        who lost his 120K job is how homeless living in his car.. DUMB FUCKING
        IDIOT-- 120K DAMN that is enough money to live on for like 10years....
        Now he's living rent free in some place called the montgomery Inn inthe
        city- which suppose to take in houseless guys.. now all it does is take
        in unemployeed programmers...... I should write an article about
        What do you call an unemployeed programmer
        A DUMB FUCKING IDIOT.......  tell him to go work for Enron/Exxon/Shell/
        Calpine/ Fluor/ Aetna/ Insurance/ or something. People think the .com
        thing is going to bring the whole world down- well it will unless those
        damn unemployeed programmers get off their LAZY ASSES......... - kinney
        \_ URL? Sounds like a fun read.
           \_ http://www.salon.com/tech/wire/2001/06/15/new_homeless/index.html
        \_ nothing new. friend's roomate bought a new BMW, still had loans and
           living paycheck to paycheck. other guys I knew at work had no savings
           and kept buying gadget after gadget.
        \_ $120K is not so much after taxes...
           \_ I saved $70K on $120K last year.
           \_ I east on less than $3/day - I boil my own beans- make my own
              sandwhichs ( using roast meat I cook )
              And steal coffee... It really dawned on me about 2 weeks ago
              when I did an analysis of food costs-- Coffee was coming in at
              around $9/week while food was hitting around $21- Thus I
              realized I could cut my bill by a third by deleting one item-
              coffee... Now of course I actually kept the $2 sunday cup in city,
              for christ sake i need to get out sometime. But everything else
              is gone
              I should write the book - how to live on $3 a day -- kinney
              \_ So where do you get all this free coffee?
              \_ You could always ho yourself out.
                 \_ um, i think the point is that one doens't need to spend
                    lots of money a day to live comfortably.  that seems to
                    be an illusion with today's mcsociety - tyler durden
              \_ the unibomber lived on less than $1/day in Montana.  so...?
              \_ good for you.  what about your other expenses?  room and
                 board?  electricity?  water?  heat?  or are you the homeless
                 guy living for free in the Montgomery Inn?
                 \_ I don't know about kinney, but I live at home with my
                    parents. I helped them pay off the house, so its part
                    mine (ie my room or so). Food is free, so is gas, power
                    water etc. The only recurring expenses I have are for
                    my car, my dsl line and my computer.
                    \_ I bet the women are impressed when you take them
                       back to "your place". --dim
                       \_ yeah, like most Sodans have women to take back to
                          their places.  right.
                          \- so do people who fall this far also loose their
                          friends, girlfriends etc? have any of them started
                          to kill themselves? this is particularly interesting
                          when it happens to these Randoid/Libertarian geeks.
                          ok tnx --psb

6/18    Larry Ellison, now that you're bubble has burst, what are you going to
        do?  "I'm going sailing, like all the other rich kid maggots!!
        -<DEAD>www.oracleac.org"<DEAD>
        \_ dude, ellison should have a book written about him, oh wait, he
           has: http://static.stileproject.com/rnd/img/book1.jpg
        \_ nah, this is what should happen to ellison and billy gates:
           http://www.stileproject.com/manga.html

6/18    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-BRF-Power-Blackout-Warnings.html -sleepless in 'nam

6/18    [Threats to Larry Ellison censored]

6/17    [Discussion on HB1B Visas censored.]

6/18    [References to Vietnam censored]

6/18    [Rant mentioning George Soros and leveraged buy outs censored]

6/18    Henceforth, any discussion not related to Computer Science will
        be censored. The University does not pay you to discuss politics,
        religion, girls, or any of that superfluous stuff. Get back to work.
        -The Imperial Censor
        \_ [Threat to Imperial Censor censored]

6/17    [Discussion on HB1B Visas censored]

6/18    [ drivel from kinney deleted. if he wants to post to the motd,
          why doesn't he login himself? ]

6/18    Somebody tell me why linux people are so defensive when it comes to
        benchmarks with FreeBSD.  First step to solving a problem is to admit
        it right?  Linus should post the network benchmark outside Alan Cox's
        office until it is on par with FreeBSD.  Problem is not going away
        if you don't admit that you have one.
        \_ D00D U R 50 R0NG! 37337 D3B14N GN00/11NSUX 15 7H3 M057 37337
           05 3V3R R1773N! FR33B5D 15 4 N05741G1C 1U53R5 WH0 D0N7 W4N7 2
           M0V3 1N70 7H3 215T C3N7URY! 7H3 N37W0RK1NG 0N MY 0C3D DU41
           \_ Linux akbar!
           C313 7335 R0X! 1 C4N D/1 MP35, AV15, V0B5, A5F5, M0V5, R4M5
        \_ Why do Linux people and FreeBSD people attach each other?  Why
           4ND RPM5 @ 10K/53C 0N MY K1CK 455 C4B3L M0D3M!
        \_ Do you have some example benchmarks?
           \_ U D0NT N33D B3NCHM4RK5 2 T331 U 7H47 11NSUX N37W0RK1NG R0X!
                                       \_ ^T331^T311
        \_ It's a holy war.
           \_ Do you mean divinely-inspired or inconsequential? -- troll
           \_ Linus akbar!
        \_ Why do Linux people and FreeBSD people attack each other?  Why
           don't they unite and attack the real devil (Windoze) instead?
           \_ why don't they get their ass in gear and provide what people
              want? they shouldn't need to "attack" anyone if they are so
              much better right?
              \_ If everyone in the world is perfectly informed (what's that
                 term in economics), yeah.  But the world doesn't work that
                 way.  Marketing plays a big role and M$'s marketing is superb.
                 \_ I think there's more to it than assuming that every
                    decision-maker out there who picked windows is incompetent.
        \_ Linux sucks fat dick for managing packages, too.  Long live the
           ports collection!
           \_ do you mean redhat sucks fat dick for managing packages? I
              have no problems with debian package management.
           \_ The ports collection is a broken piece of shit.
                -- disgruntled FreeBSD user
              \_ What troubles have you had?
                 \_ Shit would not install, generally fails during compilation.
                    \_ The ports are of pretty low quality in FreeBSD. No one
                       seems to go through and check them before every release
                       like they do on OpenBSD.
              \_ The ports seem to work better under OpenBSD, which is ironic.
              \_ I thought they were trying to get a unified ports collection?
                 ok it's http://www.openpackages.org and it seems to be in a
                 state of suck.

6/18    If I got laid off today, I would:
        look for a new job:     ..
                                 \_ That's because I need to support my
                                    parents.
        vacation:               .
        go back to school:      .
        \_ If I got laid today, I would:

           post on the motd about it:   .
        \_ aren't these the same thing?

6/18    blah blah microsoft and its freebsd usage etc.
        http://www.msnbc.com/news/588803.asp
        \_ Funny that such an article can be found on an M$-affiliated site.
           \_ the msnbc version was doctored:
              http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19771.html

6/18    Anybody going to Zambia?
        \_ yes
        \_ bring back some H07 Z4MB14N CH1X
        \_ bring back some H07 ZMBN CH1X
        \_ Who's going back to their roots? --dralban
                                              \_ who???
        <DEAD>www.logicrecords.com/dralban.htm<DEAD>  _/
        http://www.asorock.com/newspub/story.cfm?ID=36

6/18    Articles to show your soon to be ex-gf on why it's ok to stick
        with the whiny, MOTD-p0sting computer g33k:
        http://www.latimes.com/living/20010618/t000050568.html
        http://www.latimes.com/living/20010616/t000050276.html
        "An emotionally available husband, 80% of women agreed--one who
        communicates his deepest feelings [through the motd?]--is more
        desirable than one who makes a good living. "
        \_ bullshit. women just want their shopping sprees paid for.
           \_ yeah all women are bitches or hos.
              \_ Surprisingly, my freshmen year roommate left me this same,
                 parting advice before we all went our separate ways.
        \_ aww, now that the geeks can't get women with money, they
           need to show they are more 'emotionally available' than
           regular men... yet another dire after-effect of the tech
           crash. [insert cheezy FOX "After The Boom" news logo here]

6/18    So GCC 3.0 is released.  Anyone know where I can find detailed info on
        the contents?
        \_ it doesn't build for mips-elf
           \_ I'm more interested in the detailed changes of the release
              (improved std C++ etc.).  And if I were to build it, it would be
              on win32.
        \_ http://gnu.org ?
           http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/gcc-3.0/features.html
           \_ EVIL COMMIE LIBERALS. USE VISUAL C++.

6/18    [ drivel from kinney deleted ]