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| 2001/6/14-15 [Science/Physics, Computer/Theory] UID:21510 Activity:kinda low |
6/13 Long lived quantum entanglement of 2 macroscopic objects has been
achieved:
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/0106057
Food for thought. -- ilyas
\_ Thaumaturgy scheduled for teaching at UCB in year 2011
\_ We will teleport your gonads into the icy environs of deep space!
\_ Eh. Note that this has only been submitted to Nature and thus hasn't
passed peer review yet. The results they claim do sound impressive,
but I'm holding off on the party for time being (and I'm not nearly
enough of a physicist to evaluate actual procedure used and the
consequent claims' validity). -alexf
\_ .5 milli seconds is longlived? not useful for engineers yet..
\_ for quantum computation, that is wuite long. If you could
get that kind of lifetime for a 10,000 qubit system,
you would have a real quantum computer.
\_ Even 200-300 qubits at that speed should kick the crap out
of the current state of classical machines. -alexf
\_ 0.5 ms is long for all scientist/engineers.
\_ that's not what their sexual partners think. |
| 2001/6/14-15 [Computer/Networking] UID:21511 Activity:high |
6/13 Does the open source business model work?
\_ open source is NOT a business model dammit! There are a variety
of business models that can incorporate open source, and some of
them work and some of them don't.
\_ have you seen an "open source" company that had reported healthy
and steady profits so far?
\_ if "open source" == "linux" then at least one company managed
to get the model to work (hint they were acquired by sun)
\_ it almost seems like the way to make open source work is to
be bought out by another company. Another company I know
was bought out by Cisco.
\_ What company hasn't been bought out by Cisco?
\_ Cisco's acquisition rate was about 1 company every
two months from 1998-2000. Cisco passed on most
companies and mostly only purchased winners, linux
was not a winner in cisco's eyes. - cisco alum
\_ You talk about Cisco as if it was a good thing.
\_ Cisco is a great company with good engineering
and great management and sales. The corporate
culture was excellent as was the compensation
package. I would say that Cisco was probably
one of the best companies to work for and I
wouldn't mind returning in the future (once
my options vest at my current company).
\_ Cobalt is a hardware company. Yes, Linux hardware companies
will manage to make some money. What about the software
companies? Promisses, promisses ..
\_ Not all linux hardware companies make that much money.
Most of cobalt's competition (also linux based) went
under or are struggling (va & neteng). In any case
sans sun, cobalt would probably be in the same boat
as va or neteng, perhaps even worse.
\_ Cygnus was around a reasonably long time weren't they? Oh wait,
nevermind...
\_ It works for hardware companies (Sun, SGI, IBM, Cobalt, etc.)
with decent products - saves them on software development costs.
\_ Sun and SGI have decent products?
\_ Sun has decent products. The entire netra line
and the enterpise line (450 and upto E10K) are
very good and much cheaper (inital investment
and lifetime cost), much more so than the equivalent
from HP, IBM and Compaq. SGI used to be good,
but all they've got now is BlueMountain.
\_ SGI still makes decent products. They've been
a disaster, financially because they didn't
have a catchy slogan like "We're the Dot in
dot com" crap. That, and they flirted with NT
and Cray for a while
\_ NT was a disaster, but now they are peddling
Linux which is agruably worse for a niche
vendor like SGI. SGI also has problems in the
high end, since most of the clustering and
massively parallel technology came with the
cray acquisition which was subsequently sold
to sun. SGI was floundering as early as 96
and thier failure had little to do with
Sun's marketing and much more to do with a
unreliable os (irix has thousands of patches
and is a headache to maintain and develop
software for), properitary expensive hardware
and a weak/non-existant enterprise story.
Unlike apple, whose price points are low
enough for customers making up for a weak
enterprise story, SGI's prices were way too
high for most individuals and even most
companies, forcing them into the niche
of ultra high end graphics and scientific
computing, both of which are not long term
growth industries from a revenue standpoint.
\_ No shit. SGI isn't in the consumer market.
Of course it's too expensive for most
individuals, the same way a 747 is too
expensive for most individuals for Boeing
to sell to.
\_ You missed the point. Boeing is a
market leader in an industry of 1.
SGI is a market trailer in an industry
of several giants and they don't have
price or technology advantages in
order to grow.
\_ SGI's main problem is being king of a market
that shouldn't exist: large-scale numa SHM.
\_ sun has not "opensourced" their software in any way that
is saving them money.
It would save them more money if they kept all the
internals secret, but actually released APIs for the
currently black-box areas. |
| 2001/6/14 [Uncategorized] UID:21512 Activity:nil |
6/13 Where did http://segfault.org go? Where is that sucker when I need it? |
| 2001/6/14-7/20 [Computer/SW/Database, Finance/Investment] UID:21513 Activity:nil |
6/13 I am now assuming all you .commers/tech gods have more money than I-
Thus I can finally be a financial consultant.
1. ENRON they have gotten a lot of bad press recently and the
stock is in the tank- but fundamentally they are still sound with
a very good management group. They are right now basically
pulling out of low margin old school projects to instead focus
the entire company onto trading and management of utilities.....
This is a wise business decision and will pay of sooner or later-
2. GE 80% of their product is sold out for the next 5 years. nuf
said Half their profit comes from GE Capital ( low interest rate
helps them a lot ). Ie they already have huge lease agreements
providing airplanes. They just refinance their loan but the
lease contract is already existing and has a lifetime of 10
years.. a no brainer 10% easy
3. Level 3/ MFN This is a competitive hedge position- long level3
short mfn- given the recent tank of MFN this would not be a good
entry point for this position but the position is still valid and
good for at least 15% of you portfolio
4. Sybase Oracle is fucking up big time- sybase has very strong
financials and a depressed valuation- you could look at SEBL but
they are way to overvalued. You could turn this position into a
competive hedge against SEBL 15% easy maybe more
5. Verizon I don't like what the FCC is doing to hamped Verizon
but it doesn't change the fundamentals- they control the end user
- nuf said 15%
6. ATT I love the cable assets of att. They are pursuing a nice
road to greatly reduce debt load and shoveling off useless
assets. 15%
7. CAT There is a current worldwide boom in heavy construction-
CAT is the only supplier of major heavy equip. Add to this their
generator business and they are golden 10%
This would form a very nice portfolio assuming you have around
40K to invest- it is really tough to build a real portfolio with
less you can shovel off a few lines but make sure that each
investment is at least 5K.
\_ Please sign your name so we can have you arrested for giving
financial advice without a license.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=9451818940+0+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve |
| 2001/6/14-7/20 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:21514 Activity:low |
6/13 Note that sprint just cancelled ION- who the hell knew what ION was
anyway???? They had all these commercials but never once showed the
product or what it does. Teledesic rocks!
\_ I never saw an ION commerical, but I had read about it
on several ng's. I was looking forward to migrating from
1.5 DSL to ION, but I guess that's not possible now. BTW,
the ION web page doesn't have any info on the cancellation,
though the check for service now says that the service is
unavailable in my zip code (it was available last week).
Teledesic looks good, but they won't be in wide service
till 2005. I considered WildBlue for a bit, but they
don't seem like they are *nix friendly (PC/Mac only).
That leased line is looking better all the time. |
| 2001/6/14 [Uncategorized] UID:21515 Activity:nil 54%like:20987 |
6/13 PARTY ANNOUNCEMENT: 2415 Dwight way apt #23, Berkeley.
\_why don't you just say "fenwick, apt #23"?
\_ it says that above the address on the flyer. wouldn't
the address be more useful?
\_ You know, one of these days I'm going to go to one of
these parties and see what's really going on.
\_ davebrok went to the last one, he had a good time. |
| 2001/6/14-15 [Politics/Domestic, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:21516 Activity:moderate |
6/14 Are high-tech companies required by law to hire minorities (African
American or Native Americans)? If the law requires Southwest and
United Airline to hire fat ugly women, why doesn't the law require
IBM or Intel to hire non-Asians? Or such law is already underway?
\_ the law requires that you can't reject an applicant because
s/he is ugly and fat, unless someone who is not ugly or not fat
also applies for the same job. In that case, the law requires
that there is a reason why the ugly is not preferred or that
the fat is not preferred for reasons other than for the sake
that the fat is fat, and the ugly is ugly.
\_ the law requires that you should read this:
http://www.e-sheep.com/apocamon
\_ and i thought i'd never see the word "downloadeth"...
\_ holy shit that is hilarious.
\_ yeah. i thought you guys would get a kick out of the 7 eyed
sheep. |
| 2001/6/14 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:21517 Activity:high 73%like:21523 |
6/14 The most anoying misspelled word its deanitely their below:
definately (definitely) ..
it's (its) ..
alot
they're/their/there .
mispelled .
mac-o-sx
effected/affected
lose/loser (loose/looser) .
micro$oft .
your/you're .
rediculous .
pr0n . |
| 2001/6/14-15 [Academia/OtherSchools] UID:21518 Activity:very high |
6/14 "10 toughest colleges"
http://encarta.msn.com/collegeArticles/NeverStopStudying.asp
Hmm, we're not on the list. :-(
\_ Kalamazoo?? Basically, in order to assess
toughest colleges you probably have to distinguish
between technical and non-technical. Among
technical schools, I'd include MIT and Cal Tech
and then add the millitary academies (real curriculum +
millitary training). Among liberal arts schools,
I'd probably put the schools that take seriously
great books and foreign languages: St. Johns,
Deep Springs and then maybe Chicago, Swarthmore.
After that, you would add schools have tough majors -
if you want to take them: Berkeley, Michigan, the Ivys
and places like Amherst.
\_ "MSN"? gee.
\_ Any list headed by CalTech, I don't want to be on. -tom
\_ Thus spake the wise one, whose widsom was not good
enough for admission into the high temple of science
and learning.
\_ they smoke a lot of crack at Reed
\_ they smoke pot. especially at "Ren Faire". Portland is nice
tho. Rains a fuckload of a lot. Lotsa hippies and burrowood
shit.
\_ What's the name of the festival where they do
do the most digusting thing imaginable, and then
you get the cute girl next to you to do something
worse, like eating mealworms out of someone's
asscrack?
\_ CU73 42N CH1X W0U1D ! D0 7H47!
\_ That's just 23rd Ave, Portland's version of Haight-Ashbury.
\_ and the Reed Campus. I was there. No, Really, I was.
were you? Did you live in the mac-only dorms? Did
you see your roommates make bongs from soda cans and
drink microbrew peach ginger ale? Or are you a sodawanker?
drink microbrew peach ginger ale? Or are you a motdwanker?
\_ Yes, I've visited Reed. But I had more sense to go
to Cal than to go to a school like Reed. Portland's
not exactly the place to go for higher education
unless you want to go to OHSU and become a doctor.
Most of Portland is pretty well maintained. It's
a fairly liberal city but it's nothing like Telegraph
Avenue
\_ I feel gritty already just by reading this!
\_ what? did you really expect Berkeley to be on this list? are you
kidding?
\_ i'm glad berkeley is n't on this list.
\_ there's a world of difference between "10 toughest colleges" and
"10 colleges with students who whine the most". sure, mit and
caltech are most likely on both lists. the rest look verrrrrry
questionable.
\_ The Coast Guard Academy is on the list. That tells you all
you need to know. --dim
\_ What's wrong with the Coast Guard Academy? Thx.
\_ It's not exactly West Point, not that West Point is
all that. For fun, find out where celebrities went:
http://www.uselessknowledge.com/vmd/education.shtml --dim
\_ MIT and caltech _AND_ Swarthmore. Swarthmore is a pretty tough
driven place. --chris
\_ Swarthmore I'll buy. Reed, KZoo (Kalamazoo), Grinnelle? Yeah,
right. -dans
\_ Swarthmore. Anywhere else it would have been an C-
\_ I think basically these colleges run real curriculums but accept
average students, who have to work at a killer pace juts to keep up.
\_ Caltech and MIT have killer curriculums and admit only the
best of the best and then work them to the bone. The other
universities have average curriculums but accept shitty
students, the kind that would find Cal hard (hint Cal is
not hard).
\_ well, what is our criteria of hardness? if there are some
really hard classes but most people don't take them, what
does this mean? if most people are L&S weenies, then what?
if you do 16 units or more a semester of solid technical
classes, is that "easy"? or even less, since in the end
it comes down to time. is it hard because your peers are
smarter than you and set high standards on the exams?
is it hard because the material itself is hard to learn?
\_ The material covered is much more detailed and the
expected understanding of that material is much higher.
For example, you could not pass MIT's equiv. of the
7 series without attending a single lecture, section
and lab. At Cal it is trivial. Same for ld math. Its
harder to pass a ud or grad course with zero work, but
it can be done with a fraction of the work required
at CalTech or MIT. The Farm is no better than Cal,
and in fact its worse in some ways. (I've never seen
bigger bunch of whiners and sisses in my life. I keep
hearing things like, no fair, don't change the rules
half way through the course, we need extensions because
life is too hard when your dad make $1e6 a year, etc.) |
| 2001/6/14 [Uncategorized] UID:21519 Activity:nil |
6/14 http://www.totally-useless.com/bc-cam-archive |
| 2001/6/14-15 [Uncategorized] UID:21520 Activity:nil |
6/14 Defcon schedule up: <DEAD>www.defcon.org/html/defcon-9-schedule.html<DEAD> |
| 2001/6/14 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Politics] UID:21521 Activity:nil |
6/14 Doh!
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/14/english.newwords/index.html |
| 2001/6/14-15 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:21522 Activity:moderate |
6/14 Is there a way to use procmail to send a bounce to spammers so
that you are removed from their mailing list?
[useful replies deleted. why? oh no reason. i just like the power.]
\_ Just have a generate one of those phony MAILER-DAEMON 550
recipient unknown messages. Then have the mail sent to
/dev/null. It worked for me. The rate at which I get spam
has dropped 4-fold.
\_ spamtrap http://www.spambouncer.org rocks. It will auto-complain.
If you know the people you want to bounce, something like |
| 2001/6/14-15 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:21523 Activity:insanely high 73%like:21517 |
6/14 The most anoying misspelled word its deanitely their below:
heresey .
dumbenning .
embiggens .
definately (definitely) ..
it's (its) ..
alot
they're/their/there .
mispelled .
mac-o-sx
effected/affected
loose/looser (lose/loser) .
\_ What about luser?
micro$oft .
your/you're ...
cum ...................
rediculous .
pr0n .
grammer
seperate .
realize
harbor
center
theater
analcunt
potatoe (Hi Al.)
\_ Hi Dan!
\_ Spelling potato with an "e" was probably one of the
smarter things he's said.
then/than .
colour
\_ Not a misspelled word.
\_ here in the United States it is.
\_ Bullshite. Don't make me kick your arse into realising how
stupid you sound.
\_ You are right. Colour is courrect. |
| 2001/6/14-15 [Recreation/Dating] UID:21524 Activity:high 66%like:20289 |
6/14 Doh!
[url without comment deleted. "doh!" is not a useful comment.]
\_ wtf? "doh" was a perfectly fine comment. If you looked at the URL,
it's clearly obvious what it meant. For the apparently clueless:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/06/14/english.newwords
idiot. -- !original poster ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[reply without clue deleted.]
\_ I'm not saying that "Doh" couldn't have been more descriptive,
\_ I'm not saying that "Doh" could have been more descriptive,
but it WAS sufficient.
\_ it's not sufficient if it requires me to look up the
fucking url to understand the comment. the whole point of
the comment is to allow early rejection. get a fucking
clue, james.
\- in this case the humor value of the "naked doh"
justified the deviation from the "verbosity protocol" --psb
\_ I agree -- !psb's #1 fan
\_ is that (!psb)'s #1 fan or
!(psb's #1 fan) ?
\_ unary prefix ! operator binds more
tightly than the binary infix
"'s # fan" operator.
\_ i'm willing to accept the url posting in
light of this new interpretation. but my
argument still stands. thank you.
\_ the point was, you don't need to load up the URL since
it's self-descriptive. It couldn't be more descriptive
if it said <DEAD>www.sex-with-yomama.net<DEAD>
\_ sex-wtih-yomama is not descriptive comment either.
a better comment would have been "dangers of having
sex with my mom" or "my mom has had sex wtih 100
men" or "i like to have sex with my mom, here are
the details." let me guess, you're the kind of
guy who writes mail with subject "a question"
or "need help!". right?
\_ So you're that kid who's so dumb that he needs
Cliff Notes for everything he reads. It's not
my job to interpret things that are obvoius to
most people for you. |
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