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| 2001/5/28 [Recreation/Computer, Politics/Domestic, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21369 Activity:very high |
4/422 Hey, I know! How about blowing away the motd and replacing it with
nothing? That would be fun, huh? Restored.
\_ NUKE THE MOTD! NOT NUKING THINGS WOULD BE EVIL, COMMIE, AND
LIBERAL.
\_ Uhm, is there a point to all this? Are you trying to be
funny? Sarcastic? Witty? Something else? Obviously your
intelligence far surpasses mine and I'm unable to figure out
what you're getting at without it being spelled out for me.
\_ Yeah! Thanks for the suggestion!
\_ get the date right.
\_ Done. APRIL NEVER ENDED.
\_ what's this recurring "April never ended" thing? Yes, yes,
if I have to ask, I don't know...
\_ That's the clueless version of the line. The Real Thing
goes, "Those who know don't tell, those who tell don't
know".
\_ That's really stupid. |
| 2001/5/28-29 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:21370 Activity:very high |
4/423 for thoes of you who multi-boot, what boot loaders do you use or
recommend?
\_ I have two boots. I wrote an "L" on one and an "R" on the other
with a paint pen and have not had any problems booting yet.
\_ Use whatever boot loader your OS comes with. For Linux/i386, grub
is a good alternative to LILO, though the installation is somewhat
awkward. --Galen
\_ I just use LILO... never had a problem.
\_ grub
\_ partition magic for fs layout and partitioning... well, *magic*,
then lilo for boot records.
\_ ditto.
\_ bsd boot>
\_ jtag emulator (Doh!)
\_ The NT boot loader!
\_ can the NT boot loader be installed independently of NT? I have
neither Linux nor NT on this system, so I don't have LILO or the
NT loader. FreeBSD's boot manager is a bit too spartan for my
tastes.
\_ In theory, yes, you can install just enough of NT to get
the boot loader but I was kidding. No one would really do
this on a non-MS system.
\_ osbs |
| 2001/5/28-29 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:21371 Activity:very high |
5/28 A year ago I backed up my home dir onto a CD-R. Afterwards I tried it
on a regular CD-ROM and all the files seems ok. Now when I try to
access it it complains about a corrupted directory structure? What
could cause this to happen? Bad CD writer or bad disk? And is there
a way to recover from this? Thanks.
\_ If you backed it up on a CD you must not have cared about it. I
suggest you ditch the coaster and move on with your life.
\_ CD-R's are fairly reliable, certainly more so than most tape
media. What do you do your backups on, troll? They are
susceptible to scratching, particularly if you write on the top
surface with a ball-point. They can also theoretically degrade
over time, but they still should be better than most tapes.
Have you tried it in different drives? Sometimes a particular
drive and a particular CD won't get along because of vibration
or other issues. -tom
\_ The other major problem with CDRs is that they are
exteremely sensitive to any sort of light. You can't
leave them lying around exposed to overhead light
or sunlight and then expect that they will work.
If you need reliable backups, I would suggest MO
or a external harddrive.
\_ hard drives are many orders of magnitude less
reliable than CD's, even CD-R's. -tom
\_ An unpowered external hardrive will last
years as compared to the life of the ave.
cdr which is less than a few months. MO
is the way to go if you *really* care about
your data.
\_ MO is good (and recordable DVD is a
successor to MO, not to CD-R). But CD-R
is pretty damn reliable; manufacturer
claims are for 75 years, and I've never
had a burned disk go bad on me. Burning
failure rates are fairly high, but that's
not a longevity issue. -tom
\_ I'll bet you burn your CDRs and then
put them in a cool dark place unlike
above poster.
\_ The back seat of my car in the
parking lot doesn't count?!?!
\_ Would you trust your data to one burn on a CD or the
typical 0/5/9 tape cycle where your data is likely to hit
tape multiple times and probably get a copy stored off
site? I'll keep my stuff on tape, thanks. It's easier to
manage, holds more, and less likely to result in a motd
post about "how do i get my stuff off this fucked up tape?"
Maybe you can explain why tapes are still in use if CDs
make superior backup media? Everyone else must just be
stupid, huh? In this case, he might get lucky and find out
it's just a CD device incompatibility issue, but then
again, maybe not. I prefer to avoid "luck" with my data.
\_ The issue of the reliability of the media is
completely irrelevant to whether there's more than one
copy--you can do 0/5/9 with CD, too. Are you really
doing multiple-level tape backups with off-site storage
for files on your home machine? Of course not, you're
just trolling. And I didn't say CD's make superior
backup media, I said they're more reliable than tape.
The limited size makes CD not useful as backup for
shared filesystems. -tom
\_ More than one copy *is* important. No one cares about
media reliability so much as they do about getting
their data back. If one media type is slightly more
reliable than another but I have 6 copies on the
lesser media type, my odds of getting my data back are
better with the 6 copies on lesser media. Tell me
you've got 3+ copies of each CDR?
\_ He didn't say it was a home machine. He said it was
a "home dir" which is an entirely different matter.
And yes, it's easier to do 0/5/9 with tape than CD.
No, I don't do any backups for home, per se. Files I
want to keep get tgz'd and copied to work where I do
incrementals/fulls/offsite. But, oh yes, I forgot,
anyone who disagree with tom is automatically a troll.
\_ Interesting... what media do you recommend for backup
of a home system? (FWIW, right now my main strategy
is rsync of what I care about to several computers.)
--Galen
\_ the vast majority of home users don't do backups at
all, so if you're doing anything you're ahead of
the game. I use CD's but if you have another
system that's probably fine too. I just think
the first response was horribly ignorant. -tom
\_ He never said it was a home system. Read it.
\_ Dude, guys, is all that porn really worth the backup?
\_ hell yeah. building up a good pr0n collection takes a
lot of time and effort.
\_ I'm with Tom on this one. -ausman
\_ Yup, that settles it. This from the guy who has
trouble reading a dictionary and projects this
reading problem on others. With friends like that..
\_ "To all the gossips and the liars, I will see
see you in the fires." -J. Cash |
| 2001/5/28-29 [Transportation/Bicycle] UID:21372 Activity:very high |
5/28 I'm thinking about biking. What do you guys prefer, street bike
or mountain bike? What is more dangerous statistically speaking--
if biking in SF/Oakland I might get hit by a car (and die), and
if biking in mtn I might break a bone or two.
\_ Statistically speaking, biking is safer than driving in any
case, so don't worry about it. If you like being in control,
or the idea of going long distances, go with road biking. If
you like being out of control, and the idea of getting to very
remote areas, go with mountain biking. -tom
\_ Stastically speaking anyone can make statistics say anything they
want to support or oppose any position. "How to lie with
statistics" is available through amazon, thin, and cheap.
statistics" is available through amazon, thin, and cheap. And
no, there's no point in countering one set of statistics with
another. And none of this has anything to do with the original
question anyway. -reiffin
\_ Oh, so statistics are inherently useless--instead of
trying to figure out what happens in the real world, we
should just use reiffin's world view as the authoritative
source for all information! Man, no wonder you don't
sign your posts, and delete anything which disagrees with
you. -tom
\_ The motto of the Berkeley Statistics department is:
"No prior knowledge required." (See if anyone gets the
inside joke, alice should).
\_ the amusing thing is that reiffin used to work
for the statistics department.
\_ Heheh, I guess Blackwell didn't have a say in this
motto. -- alice
\_ Heheh. -- alice
\_ You are not alice.
\_ I am Alice. -alice@97.3
\_ Says who? -- alice
\_ Ok, if you are alice, explain the inside
joke.
\_ statistically, little children bike. are you a man or a baby?
\_ Statistically speaking, fat slobs drive, are you a fat slob?
\_ You can get a pretty nice road bike for less than you'll have
to pay for a pretty nice mountain bike, it seems. Neither seems
more dangerous to me with respect to cars since the road rides I
go on aren't on crowded roads during commute hours or anything
like that.
\_ Any ideas where to buy a good street/road bike and how much it
could cost?
\_ I like Missing Link. Pretty much any road bike carried by
a local bike shop will be good--they usually don't carry
anything under $600. -tom
\_ Mountain bike for me. If you went through Berkeley without
mountain biking the Berkeley/Oakland hills, you are missing
out on a fabulous experience.
\_ If you're not planning to ride anywhere but streets,
a road bike (or even a hybrid) will be a much easier ride.
I have to expend much more energy to ride a mountain bike
than a road bike, I assume because of the larger wheels. |