Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:May:01 Tuesday <Monday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2001/5/1 [Computer/SW/Virus, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:21153 Activity:high
4/30    Recommendations for Win2K disk cloning software?  These PCs
        will go on the same network; I've heard of SID problems
        with Norton Ghost and don't know which Ghost supports it.  Thanks.
        \_ SIDs only come into play with a pure win2k environment using the
           Active Directory.  There are no other SID problems.
        \_ Win2k has its own utility for creating images. You still need
           Norton Ghost or similar for installing those however.
2001/5/1 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Recreation/Sports] UID:21154 Activity:high Edit_by:auto
        Some stuff about a new hasbro game with wireless builtin.  Your 'pox'
        attacks the 'pox' of any other unit within 30 feet.  Reminds me a bit
        of the old old old game where programs battled in "core" memory.
        Anyway, I love this quote:
        Child psychologist Diane Levin of Wheelock College in Boston said such
        products can be harmful. "The toy industry is getting better at
        concealing the fact that they're selling violence to children," Levin
        To be fair, though, the last quote is a different child psychologist
        saying the exact opposite.  :-)
        Frankly, I don't think it'll teach children anything about violence
        or their environment.  Maybe how to use their brains.  That'd be
        different for child's entertainment.
        \_ corewars.  loved that game.  <DEAD>www.csua/~paolo/corewars.tar.gz<DEAD>
2001/5/1 [Uncategorized] UID:21155 Activity:low
4/30    What's going on with
        \_ they went out of business about a year ago, modems have been
           turned off, pop still works.
2001/5/1 [Consumer/PDA] UID:21156 Activity:nil
2001/5/1 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:21157 Activity:very high
4/30    OpenBSD disk access is about 40% to 100% slower on an IDE disk
        on a 733 MHz PC than when it was running Linux.  Is this normal?
        -OpenBSD newbie
        \_ Do you honestly think you're going to get a straight answer
           on the motd?
           \_ I'm hoping the OpenBSD sysadmins are anal enough to know.
        \_ I run my openbsd box on a system so old I wouldn't notice a slow
           down anyway.  Sorry.
        \_ Do you have softupdates turned on?
        \_ Do you have softupdates turned on? If not give it a shot it
           or other correctly.
           \_ wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <IBM-DPTA-372050>
              wd0: can use 32-bit, PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2
              wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 19574MB, 16383 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec,
                   40088160 sectors
           should improve your performance.
           Check dmesg, see if it detects your drive as a UDMA something
           or other correctly. If it doesn't you can try to turn it on
           as follows:
           As noted below, OpenBSD does not use the unsafe L1N SUX
           style async mounts (please see 11.5 in the OpenBSD faq for
           info on why they are not used). You can turn them on if you
           are willing to sacrifice reliability for speed.
        \_ is this for read or write?  linux defaults to async mounts
2001/5/1 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:21158 Activity:very high
4/30    Uninstall for Unix?  Assuming you install something with the usual
        ./configure make make install routine, and later decide,  "Fuck that
        was the wrong distribution" or the wrong version or whatever.  If you
        aren't using a package, how do you know that you are removing all
        the right stuff before you go to install the other version?  I assume
        that most big companies must depend on packages made on dev. machines
        that are then installed, no?  What is a reasonable policy as far as
        this stuff goes?
        \_ Install packages so that each of them is contained completely
           within a separate directory, e.g. /opt/local/packages/pine-4.30,
           then create symbolic links from /opt/local/{bin,man.sbin,lib,include}
           to the real packages directory. If you need to remove a package
           just nuke it's directory. Sure, there are still dangling symbolic
           links, but at least you know what package they belong to if you
           want to remove it. See how /opt/local/ is setup on OCF for example.
           \_ Another neat idea would be to have a subdirectory within
              /opt/local/packages/pine-4.30 called consolidated-links, or
              something like that, which contains symbolic links to those
              other symbolic links you were talking about. That way, when
              you decide to trash a "package" you can run a little script
              that will readlink and rm each link so that you won't have
              dangling links.
                \_ There's a package called opt_depot which manages a link
                   farm (in /usr/local/{bin,man,lib} by default) based on
                   installations in a package (or "depot") directory like
                   the above.
        \_ Here's my little scheme, its similar to OCFs:
           0. mkdir /usr/pubsw/ and required subdirs:
              (you only need to do this once)
           1. untar your the source for your program into
           2. ./configure your program with prefix set to
           3. make && make install
           4. cd into /usr/pubsw/pgms/<program> and ln -s
              <program>-<version> to <program> (remove the
              old link if you have one)
           5. for new programs cd into /usr/pubsw and foreach
              of the {bin,sbin,include,lib,libexec,share,etc} <dirs>
              ln -s ../pgms/<program>/<program>/<dir>/* .
           Now to acutally use the programs and libraries, all you
           have to do is set PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to
           the /usr/pubsw/{bin,sbin} and /usr/pubsw/lib dirs.
           To upgrade a pkg, you just download the new source, build
           it, make install and change one symlink. To uninstall a
           pkg just remove its directory. To downgrade, just change
           one link.
           The other advantages are that the top level directory is
           clean (less overhead on directory reads) and source and
           programs are stored using similar naming conventions making
           it easy to track down problems and do upgrades, etc.
           I'm giving you the brief version here. The full setup
           also handles multiple architectures and OS revisions and
           has some perl tools for cleaning up and installing.
2001/5/1 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:21159 Activity:nil
4/30    how to make a word go to all caps in emacs?
        M-x apropos upcase --psb
2001/5/1 [Reference/Military] UID:21161 Activity:very high
04/30   M$ is raising a new breed of BOFH. Or something.
        \_ Old news, posted on the motd earlier this morning.
           \_ Son of a diddly!
              \_ what percentage of viewers do you estimate "got" the
                 run lola run theme of that episode?
                 \_ I thought it was from Go.
                 \_ whoever had closed captioning on.  we also got to see
                    Bart saying, "gun key, gun key, gun key, trigger key..."
                    as he was flipping through his keyring.
                 \_ anyone who had closed captioning on.  those of us also got
                    to see such lines as Bart saying, "... gun lock, gun lock,
                    gun lock, trigger lock..." as he was flipping through his
        \_ Duh, a password of at least 18770 characters is the only way to
           be safe.  I have this set on my network and force users to change
           their passwords on a daily basis.
2001/5/1 [Uncategorized] UID:21162 Activity:nil
4/30    get a sex change, for free!
        \_ are you talking about the good ol' "pull your zipper up
           real quick before you put it back in" method?
2001/5/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21163 Activity:nil
05/01   For those motd readers who still haven't figured out the P notation
        used on the motd:
2001/5/1 [Uncategorized] UID:21164 Activity:nil
2001/5/1 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:21165 Activity:nil
May 1   Underpaid sysadmin of the UNIX world, unite!!!
2001/5/1 [Uncategorized] UID:21166 Activity:nil
2001/5/1 [Reference/Celebration] UID:21167 Activity:nil 66%like:21191 66%like:22626
05/01   Happy Birthday, mconst!
2017/09/22 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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