Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:April:24 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2001/4/24 [Uncategorized] UID:21072 Activity:nil
4/22    RIP my faithful uclink4 account.
2001/4/24 [Uncategorized] UID:21073 Activity:high
4/22    Free speech cuts both ways.  Propoganda goes only one.  Here's the
        free speech version of the propoganda.
        \_ I'd rather have a gun than some stones.
           \_ The guns come out at night after the cameras are gone.
2001/4/24 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:21074 Activity:high
4/22    Warning: Emacs is dangerous to your left pinky
        \_ Warning: vi is dangerous
        \_ This is crying out for ED! but I'm not going to do it.
2001/4/24 [Uncategorized] UID:21075 Activity:nil
4/22    Who deleted the bike post? Come on, just admit it. No one will hurt
        you. Was it you tom?
2001/4/24-25 [Computer/SW/Languages, Computer/SW/Languages/Functional] UID:21076 Activity:moderate 75%like:21071
4/387   review on Tripplite, APC, and others, thanks.
        \_ t
        \_ For the eternally clueless for who think whateverP is a generic
           form of asking any question... it isn't.  If memory serves, the P
           stands for "P"redicate.  This comes from the c60a (and maybe 50?)
           days where everything in the A&S book was thisP and thatP for all
           the true/false routines.  thus: isnumP and isdigitP and foodP are
           good.  reviewP will only get you #t/f.  Now please just stop
           misusing shorthand in attempt to fit in.  English works perfectly
           most of the time and if you don't know that Engrish does ok, too.
           \_ usage defined meaning.  trace the etymology of many many
              common expressions and you will find that they started out as
               something compeletly different, and alot of  ignorant idiots
               missused the language for several decades, and now it's in
               the dictionaries.
                \_ Yes, yes, I took linguistics in school, too.  Nice try.
                   This is based on a computer language, not Chomsky.
           \_ nil is also acceptable in place of #f
              \_ #t
                \_ More precisely, in older lisps, the convention is P for
                   predicate, eg, isdigitP, with true and false being t and nil
                   \_ you mean "digitp"
                   (more precisely, nil is false and everything else is true).
                   The scheme convention is ?, such as isdigit?, with #t and
                   #f being boolean types returned.  I don't remember what
                   r4rs says about nil in control flow, but #f != nil
                   \_ Even more precisely, older lisps only had upper case, so
                      you had things like ISDIGITP.
                      \_ Why would you ever have ISDIGITP instead of DIGITP ?
                         \_ Well, yeah, whatever.  Give yourself a happy star.
                   \_ !#t?  I think I got schooled.
                      \_ the more interesting question is when to use
                         eg digitp vs digit-p
        \_ MGE!
        \_ better, but still not a properly phrased question.   here, I'll put
           you out of your misery:
           \_ Sorry. How to review on Tripplite, APC, and others, thanks?
2001/4/24-25 [Computer/HW/Laptop] UID:21078 Activity:moderate
4/388   Notebook suggestions?  Looking for something 6 lb or lighter, with
        Also, I remember someone mentioning subnotebooks/Japanese imports
        awhile back.  Any good websites on that?
        \_ Wait a little longer. With the plummeting economy, things are
           sure to drop.
        \_ Price range?  Will you be carrying this or travelling a lot?
           Or is this just a desktop machine that you will pick up from
           time to time?
        \_ If 14.1" screen size is okay for you, I recommend picking up
           a Pismo G3. Its expandable unlike the Ti G4, and is much more
           rugged. Its slower granted, but its *much* cheaper ~ $1600.
           I've had one for a year and its best laptop I've ever owned.
           I've owned Toshiba's, HPs and other PowerBooks.
           I would recommend against a dell. My boss had a 5000 (?) and
           it was a utter POS, the screen popped out, the cdrom/battery
           drive bay wouldn't lock the devices in place, the PCMCIA eject
           broke, etc. His problems aren't isolated, almost everyone at
           my office who had a dell had some problems with it. They all
           use HP or Sony now.
           \_ Where do you work?
              \_ this was at cisco - cisco alum
                 \_ We have a whole bunch of 3800s and there are no
                    problems.  Someone here has had a 7000 for over
                    a year and it's fine.  Someone else has a 4000 and
                    although it feels a bit fruity it's been fine so far.
                    \_ Maybe its just the 5000s then. All we had were
                       5000s and perhaps one or two 7000s. They were
                       all bad enough that most people went back to
                       using Toshiba Satellite Pros until new laptops
2001/4/24-25 [Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:21079 Activity:moderate
4/23    Anyone know of a pretty print util for Windows 2000?  (I had a2ps for
        so, where can I get it?  (Please, no suggestions to change OS.)
        \_ print utility to do what?
           \_ Sorry, meant "pretty print" for source code (c++ perl, etc.)
              \_ You meant something like enscript?  If your printer driver
                 supports two pages per sheet, you can simply open your source
                 file as plain text and print with that feature.  Otherwise,
                 You can create a template in M$ Word to use landscape
                 orientation, two columns, and a small mono font.  Then open
                 a new document with that template and paste in your source
                 code.  Then print it.  (The latter was how I printed enscript-
                 like output on my 9-pin printer years ago.)  Either way, don't
                 forget to also utilize any two-sided printing feature to save
                 even more paper.  -- yuen
                 \_ But dumbya told me that cutting down trees is good for the
                    \_ Young troll, remember: to find enlightenment you
                       must hit where it hurts.  Ad hominem doesn't hurt
                       anything except your chances of walking the true
                       path to great trolldom.
                 \_ Enscript is similar to a2ps--I was under the impression that
                    enscript had been absorbed into a2ps.
        \_ emacs
           \_ Wow, emacs sends to the printer?  And formats the code like a2ps?
              Are you sure about this?
              \_ M-x print-buffer/ps-print-buffer/ps-print-buffer-with-faces do
                 send output to the local or network printer.  Don't know about
                 \_ yes, emacs does format like a2ps
2001/4/24-25 [Consumer/Camera, Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Uncategorized/Profanity] UID:21080 Activity:high
4/389   <DEAD><DEAD>
        \_ yes, thank you.  also, a chinese jet collided with an american
           reconnaissance craft, film at 11.
                \_ no shit!  really?  when did that happen?
2001/4/24-25 [Computer/Companies/Google, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21081 Activity:very high
4/389   When nurses say "get me xyz, stat!" what does stat mean? Is it an
        abbreviation or acronym?
        \_ you can't use google, huh?
           \_ what ever happened to your Berkeley pride?  I guess google
              is just too good that we are willing to stoop down to use
              a stanford made search engine.
              \_ Berkeley pride?  Hello?  It's just a GPA and a piece of paper.
                 The alumni association won't help you afterwards unless you
                 consider endless appeals for cash a form of "help" and a good
                 way to express "pride".
              \_ That's why I use At least its not like selling
                 out the the farm.
           \_ google doesn't have intelligent speech processing like
              the motd. the motd is, however, quite slow and prone
              to insult its users. all in all it balances out.
              ok so i tried google and it said it was for "statum."
              google: 1  motd: 0
              \_ What does "statum" mean? Is it an abbreviation or acroynm?
                 \_ beats me. latin for ASAP?
                                        \_ is that some kind of funky acronym?
2001/4/24-25 [Computer/SW/Languages] UID:21082 Activity:very high
4/389   Is there any way to print out the percent of document read in
        less, like the default in more?  Thanks!
        \_ dear dimwit. man less, then search for "percent". -ali
           \_ (criticism of ali recanted)
           \_ rather than inflating your ego you could have simply
              said "press '='"
                \_ no, it's called RTFM.  Yes, there's always a way and stop
                   bugging the motd about trivial crap that's right there in
                   the man pages.  This isn't the "black lightning man page
                   reading service".  -!ali but agrees 100%
                   \_ fucking hell, i retracted my comment a long time ago
                      but some dumbshit overwrote it. like twice. i realized
                      my error and repented.
                        \_ Not me.  Just replying to whats posted.
2001/4/24-25 [Recreation/Dating] UID:21083 Activity:very high
4/23    Any serious reccomendations on places to meet nice Asian girls?
        \_ Frat parties if you want them drunk.  Co-op parties if you want
           them stoned into another world.
           \_ He said "nice" asian girls not slutz or H07 4ZN CH1X!
                        \_ BOOT TO THE HEAD!!!
                \_ They were really nice to me! PARTY ON!
        \_ Nice as in willing to sleep with you, or some other definition?
                \_ a girl willing to sleep wityh a soda guy ? that is
                   something you don't see every day
                   \_ In my case, 3-4 times per week.
                      \_ The number of times you see your wife?
        \_ Now those are 3 words you don't see often in Berkeley EECS.
           \_ If i remember correctly, there are a decent number of Asian
              women in EECS.
              \_ I still remember Eva Chan from my time.
                    \_ #f.  I wish I have one too.
                 \_ pixP.
                    \_ #f.  I wish I have one too.  She graduated in '92,
                       probably too aged for the current soda guys anyway.
                         \_ BOOT TO THE HEAD!!!
           \_ well, taken by itself, Asians would be predominant in EECS,
              girls would be a minority, and "nice" depends on your
              point of view.
              \_ I meant together.
                 \_ Not this thread again; my guess is the poster
                    wants a girl Mom would approve of before she starts
                    reccomending ones
                    \_ I don't recall any recent threads regarding Asian girls.
                       \_ what year is it?  what city is ucb in?  who is
                          president of the us?
                          \_ dict sarcasm
        \_ CSU and TSA functions?
        \_ Andronicos, laundromat, DC, Mac Workstation places, ***CHURCH***
                \_ just offer to fold her panties for her
                   \_ That reminds me of that recent beer commercial at a
                      laundry room where the gal drops her bra into the guy's
           (yes you'll meet nice Asian girls whom you'll marry and screw),
           Wednesday performance at Hertz Hall, French class, ***ASIAN AM***
           classes. The list goes on and on.
        \_ don't forget the Asian clubs (not dance clubs necessary, but
           asian organiziations)
        \_ Haas.
           \_ white guys need not apply right ?
        \_ Asian churches.  seriously.
           \_ Watch out for church chix. Most are gold diggers.
           \_ stay away. any women there are brainwashed and weak. will not
              produce strong sons.
                 \_ But they may produce H07 4ZN CH1X! W00H00!
                    M0R3 H07 4ZN CH1X 4 M3!
              \_ Not true.  I don't go to church but I have various friends
                 (both Christian and non-Christians) who told me that a lot
                 of people at the churches go there not to be Christians but
                 to meet people and potential dates.  My Christian friends
                 even said it's okay to go to church for that purpose, although
                 I don't think so.
                 \_ that's fucked up. you sit there pretending to be an xtian?
                    yeah, hey baby, let's go study the bible at your place.
                    \_ church has always been about socializing and not
                       about religion. Christianity is an awful religion,
                       full of so many internal inconsistencies that most
                       people just ignore it and get on with thier lives.
                       \_ Bonus points for slipping that one in, young troll,
                          but your youthful eagerness is giving it away.
                          \_ I've been trolling for years. Lately I've
                             gone back to newbie troll style just to see
                             if its more effective.
2001/4/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:21084 Activity:kinda low 60%like:21064
4/387   mconst 2.95.3 installed, bugs to gcc.
2001/4/24-25 [Finance/Investment] UID:21085 Activity:nil
4/24    nweaver-- does it bother you that EECS is predominantly Asian, and
        by chance they happen to enjoy watching the stock ticker?
2001/4/24-25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:21086 Activity:low
4/389   how do you bring up the javascript debugger in Netscape?
        \_ type "javascript:" in the location field. (the status bar should
           tell you this when there are errors.)
2001/4/24-25 [Transportation/Car] UID:21087 Activity:very high
4/24    on a 1.6 vtec engine, at what point does one shift?  2500?  3500?
        (redline at about 7200).  Should i be doing 60 in 4th gear? (or 3rd?)
        - this is not an integra.
        \_ Of course it's not an Integra.  It's a Civic.
           \_ D00D 175 4 TR1CK3D 7YP3 R C1V1C DX R4C3R!
        \_ Doesn't it depend on how much power you want vs. how little gas
           you're willing to burn at that moment?
           \_ ok, the spec then is to maximize engine life; get good gas
              mileage, i care not for racing on the street.
              \_ in that case shift at 3000 rpm.  To maximize engine life
                tune up more often.  Every 3000 miles engine oil change
                intermediate service every 15000 miles.
                \_ Good rule of thumb. To maximize economy, you will
                   want to shift with the purpose of keeping your foot
                   as light on the throttle as possible.
                \_ How often is tune-up needed?
                   \_ A "tune-up" is such a vague term. If you're
                      clueless about cars, you'll probably want a
                      mechanic to look at it every year or 15000mi,
                      whichever comes first. Not as important if your
                      car is very new.
        \_ RIDE BIKE
                \_ USE LINUX!
2001/4/24-25 [Computer/Theory] UID:21088 Activity:kinda low
4/24    "New-New Math":
        American kids are so spoiled.
        \_ In what way does it spoil a child to *not* teach them math when
           they need it to do well in life?  I think this is abuse.
           \_ they have these adds on the radio where i live trying to
           convince people that taking alot of math leads to great riches.
           I keep thinking of the people i know who *really* know alot
           of math, living on jolt and pop tarts and sleeping on
           matresses in Evans hall.
           \_ There's a difference between "most kids need math to do well"
              and "needs lithium to do well".
2001/4/24-25 [Uncategorized] UID:21089 Activity:nil
        I'm glad I'm running on a non-x86 architecture. I wonder if this has
        been fixed in 37337 GN00/11NSUX
        \_ Connection refused.
            \_ I found it at
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