Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:April:13 Friday <Thursday, Saturday>
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2001/4/13 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:20959 Activity:nil
4/13    You know, G.W. Bush is going to have no problems with China.
        His personality is Chinese (especially the way he gets ticked
        off at people and tells them off in front of everyone), and Chinese
        leaders learned that the hard way.
        \_ In the words of Shaw: "If there is to be any trouble, he will
           have it with me, not I with him."
           GWB is taking a hard line with China, which is great. Those COMMIE
           bastards need to be taken down a peg or three. The sooner they
           realize that they are a insignificant third world country that can
           barely maintain its stranglehold on the freedoms of its people the
           better. I'm glad that the COMMIE friendly Clinton-Gore years are
           finally over.
           And if you thing that China won this last little scuffle, please
           read Charles Krauthammer's piece in yesterday's Washington Post
           and get your head screwed on straight.
2001/4/13 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Compilers] UID:20960 Activity:very high
4/13    What's up with forward declarations and member function pointers in C++?
        I've got a bunch of classes that need to include each other, but when I
        try using a pointer to a member function (fooclass::bar) I get some
        bullshit about "incomplete type fooclass has no member named bar". Even
        though it does. So I can't get this bitch to compile. Am I just screwed?
        Happy Friday the 13th btw.
        \_ platform? compiler? a smaller sample that doesn't work?  From
           here is sounds like you're screwed.  I've done that web of
           class dependencies before with no problems.  -meyers
        \_ Yes, post your code in /tmp or something for others to view.
           \_ hmm. well i'm juggling other things right now so I'll try
              doing that later. this is g++ on linux by the way.
              i believe it would work if i change from calling class A's
              constructor in class B's constructor to setting it up manually,
              but that's not very elegant, and this is stuff other ppl will use.
                \_ Hand coding kludged solutions are known as "job security".
                   \_ yeah, especially if you're stupid and your coding-fu is
                      weak.
                   \_ leave him alone, he's probably only taken cs61b.
                      \_ Right, sorry.  I forgot about the "no-beating-
                         up-on-retarded-kids" rule on the motd.  mea culpa.
                         \_ When you're laid off and during the exit interview
                            your manager thanks you for writing such clear and
                            easy to modify code, you'll think back on this.
                            \_ Talking from experience, huh?  Poor guy.  Have
                               you ever considered a job in a less technical
                               field?
                                \_ You'll see.  It's easy to be 23 and think
                                   you're hot shit and the world is your
                                   oyster.
                            \_ not likely. People that do this sort of feeble
                               "job-security" crap get fired where I work.
                               Grow up and get a real job, kid.
                                \_ And the name of your New Age Enlightened
                                   company is...?
2001/4/13-14 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:20961 Activity:low
4/12    So I've read a little bit about a major security problem in
        ipf/ipnat. Is this a big problem? If so, what versions are
        affected (ie is OpenBSD 2.8 vulnerable?)
        \_ outside of: http://false.net/ipfilter/2001_04/0087.html
           \_ What I don't understand is how someone can use this
              to access my box. Yeah it seems like a problem but
              can't I just turn on don't fragment and be safe with
              and older version.
                \_ Upgrading is good for you.
2001/4/13 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/Tax] UID:20962 Activity:insanely high
4/12    Are there any good links on the thing about the federally income tax
        not being legal?  My google search only got me a lot of yellow on red
        background rants with LOTS of CAPS for EMPHASIS.  I'd like to see
        something a bit more scholarly than the typical conspiracy crap. on
        the net.  Thanks.
        \_ Overseen on wall.log:
           Boredcast Message from 'tom': Fri Apr 13 09:03:16 2001

           it's not important that americans get a tax cut at all.
           americans are severely undertaxed

            \_ Tom! Say it ain't so!!  I knew you were a big-gov't anti-gun
                Fascist but this is TOO much.  It must be lie; slander.
                Perhaps you were on a bad trip. explainP -Formerly Tom Fan #11
        \_ <DEAD>givemeliberty.org<DEAD>
        \_ http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html
          \_ if only this guy started to refute motd claims as well
        \_ Search on http://www.freerepublic.com
        \_ Just pay your fucking taxes.. sheesh.
              \_ I will pay my taxes (for now). But at least I know
                 that taxes are illegal and amount to extortion from
                 liberals who want to waste my money on crappy projects
                 that are completely worthless.
                \_ who pays for the glorious american infrastructure
                   you are using RIGHT NOW?
                 \_ [ deleted ]
                  \_ Wow, this is the longest I've ever seen an
                     anti-liberal post go without being deleted/censored.
                     What gives?  [restored.  twice]
                    \_ tom must be idle.  At lunch on his gub'mint
                       salary job.
           \_ Typical motd "I don't want to think about anything" spewage.
              Just what exactly is wrong with asking for a link about a
              current event topic?  Even if the stuff is totally bogus, some
              people still find it interesting.  More interesting than the
              Yet Another Security Bug,  "yermom", C++ weirdness, or small
              penis links that get posted.  "WAAH!  It's outside the scope
              of my little geek world!  Don't think about it!  Don't post on
              it!  I want to stay ignorant and boring!"
2001/4/13-16 [Recreation/Food] UID:20963 Activity:high
4/15    Free Jamba Juice for breakfast this week!  Find out when your local
        store is giving it away at:
        http://www.jambajuice.com/friends/breakfast_stores_ca.html
        \_ "Free" is an interesting word.  Few things worth having are truly
           free.
        \_ Usage of "Free" depends on how much you value your time.
        \_ Anything free is worth what you pay for it. -Heinlein
        \_ Nothing is truly free.
2001/4/13 [Uncategorized] UID:20964 Activity:high
4/13    Consider yourself lucky, unless you're this fellow:
        <DEAD>vatican.rotten.com/micropenis<DEAD>
        \_ A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
           \_ Most appropriate quote award, 2001.
        \_ that's nothing, i've seen an inverted vagina.
           \_ picsP or urlP.... wait, on second thought, nevermind.
2001/4/13 [Uncategorized] UID:20966 Activity:high
4/13    It's a race!  Who shall overwrite whom?
jctwu            Bo       lsanca1-ar3-159- 12:11PM     - jove /etc/motd.public
tom              Cv       mojo.Berkeley.ED 23Mar01     - jove /etc/motd.public
        \_ Oh my god, mojo. What have they done to you?
        \_ I don't overwrite no one. -jctwu
           \_ So you overwrite everyone?  You jerk!
        \_ only the unenlightened use jove. Real Men use ED!
        \_ 23Mar01?
2001/4/13 [Uncategorized] UID:20967 Activity:very high
4/13    Anyone remeber the recent case of the unarmed guy shot multiple
        times by multiple cops?  URLp.
        \_ uh which city, so many to choose from!
        \_ troll.  no cookie.  bad.
2001/4/13 [Reference/Tax] UID:20968 Activity:high
4/13    How many people deduct the cost of computer books for their taxes?
        \_ me
        \_ if itemizing, you can make a case for it.
2001/4/13 [Recreation/Celebrity/BritneySpears] UID:20969 Activity:nil
4/13    Britney Spears hits the big time:

http://www.mtv.com/sitewide/utils/playmedia.jhtml?clip=/mtv/realmedia/g2/clips/s/spears_britney/last_to_know_30.rm
2001/4/13 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Taiwan] UID:20970 Activity:high
4/13    I've been reading some articles and papers about foreign
        policy and I ran across the assertion that Taiwan and HK
        have both invested heavily in the Mainland despite political
        rehtoric that denounces Communism etc. It seems that by
        purchasing HK and Taiwan goods we are indirectly helping
        the Mainland.
        I've been a long time supporter of arming Taiwan and HK,
        but given that they seem to care more for $s than freedom
        I'm revaluating that policy. Continuing to arm Taiwan without
        having them sever ties with communist china seems to be
        a bad policy. Perhaps we should deny them arms and support
        until they cut of thier economic ties with the Mainland.
        \_ You haven't been reading the right articles if you think arming
           HK is American policy.  As someone who *is* in favor of arming
           Taiwan, I'd prefer this sort of ignorant ranting troll didn't
           post.  OTOH, you may be well meaning and just ignorant, in which
           case I suggest you check out HK's current status vis-a-vis the
           mainland and come back to talk about arming HK.
        \_ what's this about arming HK? isn't HK owned by China?
           you wanted to arm China? or is this a joke i don't get?
           \_ Merely a rant by someone ignorant and stupid.
              Pay no mind.
              \_ Mind unpaid. Wonder when it will be deleted.
                 \_ It's anti-communist/left but clearly confused and stupid.
                    At best this is a strawman from the left.  I think this
                    will stay posted all day long.  A strong pro-Taiwan post
                    would be gone in minutes.  Standard motd censorship policy.
                    \_ Get the fuck over yourself.  If you're that concerned
                       about being heard, don't use the fucking motd as your
                       stump.
2001/4/13 [Uncategorized] UID:20971 Activity:nil 66%like:20576
4/13    When was the last time you came?
        \_ with gene simmons! http://www.kissdominion.com/BEDROOM.HTM
           \_ Yes, he's embiggened that role with his cromulent performance.
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