3/11    there is a compiler that will take in java and ouput x86 machine
        code - nameP
        \_ t

3/11 -  stupidity about OSes deleted. All os's have good points and bad
        points.  i'm sure you all know this.
        - Paolo the VP who wishes the motd would take a more techincal
        discussion trend.
        \_ They weren't all about OS's. Some of them were just jokes that
           people didn't get.
           \_ Well, we'll show him. Especially for that "purple monkey
              dishwasher" remark.
        \_ Though the OS posts were stupid, the motd isn't about technical
           discussion.  It is much more about social sorts of things,
           humor, etc.
        \_ paolo the twink.
           \_ Please. Do you kids want to be like the real U.N. or do you
              just want to squabble and waste time?
              \_ Uh, the real UN just squabbles and wastes time and US
                 taxpayer money. It should be banned. - tired of paying
                 for UN stupidity
                 \_ Insufficient Simpsons.  Mine more Simpsons.
                 \_ Twinks these days just don't understand sarcasm if
                    was staring at them it the face.
                    \_ Its hard to tell who is being sarcastic and who
                       is a genuine idiot on the motd. There are fools
                       on soda that think that the UN is k3wl.
                       \_ Tell me something. What kind of petshop is
                          filled with rambunctious yahoos and hot jazz
                          music at 2 o'clock in the morning?

3/11    (define foo "there is a compiler that will take in java and ouput x86
        machine")
           \_ (what-is-it-called foo)
        \_ (url? foo)
           \_ (url-p foo), HEATHEN!
              \_ "define" is a Scheme special form, not Lisp.
                 \_ defun.  Lisp.  Kids these days.
                    \_ my other car is a cdr.
        |\_gcc does this. -ali
        |  \_ you mean gjc right? The code that is generated is quite poor
        |     and dumps core often.
        |     If you really want this M$ had a tool to do it in VJ++ and
                 \_ Yeah, gcj, I have having a dislexic moment.
        |     it worked pretty well. For non-M$ OSes SOL.
        \_____\_ i believe he means gcj: http://gcc.gnu.org/java/index.html
                 but gcj seems to be broken (can't even build helloworld.java)
                 - paolo
                 \_ Yeah, gcj, I was having a dislexic moment.
                dyslexic, you dysfunctionate _/
                 \_ Yeah, gcj, I was having a dyslexic moment.
                    I don't know about the current version, but at least two
                    versions last years *seemed* to be able to compile basic
                    stuff and run it. (At least that's what the guy in the cube
                    next to me said, I never tried it. Jikes + class file
                    obfusication worked well enough for me)
                        \_ obfuscation, you obsequious abstruse obstretrician
        \_ Doesn't TowerJ claim to do this?
           \_ We tried it about a year ago at work and it didn't work all
              that well. In most cases, the speed up was less than 1.5x,
              and the fastest the code ever ran was 2.2x. This was on x86
              Linux though. It might be better on M$ Lose*. But still, its
              not worth the money and time to retrofit everything to use
              towerj. You can get better speedups by avoiding exceptions and
              using java obfusication along with doing core pieces in native
              code. - not the original poster
              \_ This is not surprising, since well-coded java has regularly
                 run at very close to "regular" compiled C/C++.
                 The trick is in writing regular java in the first place.
                 But I want it for saving memory, in an ideal world.
        \_ IBM has a compiler that does this. I believe it comes with VAJava.
           I can find out references if you want.
           \_ sure

FIRST!
\_ Your strategerie confounds me.
        \_ my what now?

3/11    Anyone know how async logic works (url to papers fine)?
        http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/17356.html
        \_ http://www.sun.com/research/async/index.html
           \_ Thanks. Any others?
                \_ Follow their related links page
        \_ Lookup :
                1. Asyn. lab at Utah (try that in Google)
                2. Asyn VLSI group at CalTech
                3. http://www.avlsi.com (spin off of #2)
                4. http://www.csl.cornell.edu (spin off of #2)
                \_ Actually, http://vlsi.cornell.edu
           I remember there being an AMULET processor done in
           in England.  There is also a book on asyn design
           from Royal Philips.  You can find it at http://Amazon.com.
           It , however, is a big rip-off of #2.
           Mail me if you want more serious info. -tyf

3/11    Another motd poll. Who's your favorite Iron Chef?

        Iron Chef Chinese, Chin Kenichi: 1 (definitely!!11!!)
        Iron Chef French, Hiroyuki Sakai: 1
        Iron Chef Italian, Masahiki Kobe: 1
        Iron Chef Japanese, Masaharu Morimoto: 2
        Jean Valjean Japanese, Chairman Takeshi Kaga:
        Martha Steward: 1
        \_ I heard the Japanese version of Les Mis sucked galore. But
           what can you expect of a Japanese version of an American
        Jean Valjean Japanese, Chairman Takeshi Kaga:
           musical of a French story.
           \_ I know you're just trying to be culturally clever, but the
              original musical was not American; it was French.
        Martha Steward: 1
        \_ Martha Stewart is sexy.
           \_ http://www.fillies.com/xmaps/stewmp01.htm
           \_ Martha Stewart is HOT.
        \_ Martha wouldn't stand a chance at challenging the Iron Chefs.
           I think Emeril would be a more likely candidate.
           \_ Emeril on Iron Chef would be an even bigger massacre than
              Bobby Flay.  I sure hope it happens, though.
        \_ The show is still on TV?  What channel and time?  Thx.
           \_ http://www.foodtv.com/tvshows/ironchefindex
           \_ it used to be, and possibly still is, on channel 18
           \_ 26 on the weekend..check your local listing
              \_ Saturday at 8 if memory serves. Used to be on before
                 Delicious Relations (that was a good show).
                \_ Hasn't been on 26 for quite some time.
        \_ d00d what about the older iron chefs!
        \_ I saw this one episode where a Bay Area chef blew away
           Sakai, who rarely ever loses.  Does anyowho that chef
           is?
                \_ Ron Siegel formerly of Charles Nob Hill. Now at Masa's
                  \_ He did a dinner at Charles Nob Hill where he made
                     the dishes from the show.  It was amazing.

3/11    What if in some alternate universe in the future Linux prevails and
troll   Microsoft is utterly non-existent. What would current Linux users dO?
        Cuz God forbid they use what everyone else will be using. Who will
        they start bashing?
        \_ Where's the self-appointed troll-marking-troll when you need him?
           \_ Sorry. I've been taking an motd vacation recently.
                                      \_ a.
        \_ bad troll! no donut!
        \_ redhat
        \_ BSD, Apple, Playstation 4.
        \_ Each other. It will be like the WWF, one distro vs. another.

3/11    Who's your favorite Iron Chef taster?

        The baratone photographer:
        The ditzy ingenue:
        The suave actor:
        The old lady fortune teller:
        The wacky guy who looks like he's dressed for a bullfight: 1
        \_ You mean chairman Kaga?
           \_ I love those yellow peppers
        The reinfed old lady  rulez....!
        The refined old lady  rulez....! : 2

3/11    Random question for Bay Area csua-ers:  when you're driving on the
        San Mateo-Hayward bridge there are these signs with numbers on them
        in the center divider that start at 1100 or so, then decrease as you
        head westward until you hit the high-rise where they change entirely.
        does anyone know what their purpose is?
        \_ I saw similar signs on Golden Gate Bridge.  My guess is they're
           there for maintenance purposes.
        \_ Body count.
           \_ Body Count??  Wasn't that Ice-T's crappy punk/metal band?
              Didn't they break up or OD on heroin or something?
                \_ Yeah.  On the San Mateo bridge.
                   \_ 1100 times!?!?!
                        \_ About that many.

3/11    can somebody please repost the command to join csua irc?
        \_ The IRC server is currently broken; we'll post another
           announcement when it's working agian.
        \_ ~brg/bin/hoserchat
        \_ % must be this tall to enter
        \_ icb -s <DEAD>icb.cp.net<DEAD>
        \_ icb -s http://icb.soda.net
        irc $USER localhost
        once you're on, everyone's piling into channel "#csua", so just:
        /join #csua
           \_ don't forget:
                touch ~/.openident
        \_ we have wall, why do we want irc?
           \_ because paolo is a twink.