Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:February:26 Monday <Sunday, Tuesday>
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2001/2/26-27 [Uncategorized] UID:20692 Activity:nil
2/25    Why are only four bytes guaranteed for ungetc?
        \_ according to K&R, only one char is guaranteed.
        \_ getc/ungetc is a fundamentally broken paradigm like
           many other unix APIs.  If four bytes are guaranteed
           on your particular OS, it's proably because the dumbass
           implementing this stuff has a 32-bit word that he's using
           as a shift register to spool characters into.
        \_ As the above says, your 4 bytes are specific to the system
           you're on.  You should only count on one byte guaranteed.
2001/2/26 [Uncategorized] UID:20693 Activity:nil
2/25    just curious, so how was the Dwight Way "party"?
2001/2/26-27 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:20694 Activity:nil
2/25    When using emacs/gdb in two window mode, how do you set a
        breakpoint on screen again (in the code window in emacs)?
        \_ bitch, what the FUCK are you talking about? what the hell
           is "two window mode" and what does "breakpoint on screen"
           mean? are you using gud?
           \_ calm down.
           \_ run emacs on source code.  Ctrl-X2.  M-x gdb
2001/2/26-27 [Transportation/Car] UID:20695 Activity:high
2/26    Anyone knows why the southbound 880 freeway was shutdown by the CHP
        this morning around 8:15?  There was obviously no accidents on the
        freeway.  KCBS says the CHP shut it down for "an undisclosed reason".
        \_ The Martians have landed!
        \_ from http://sfgate.com/traffic
          East Bay
          (FIRST REPORTED AT 5:07 am)
          ACCIDENT IN BERKELEY, A
          TRAILER FROM A BIG-RIG HAS
          OVERTURNED ON THE
          UNIVERSITY AVENUE OFF-RAMP
          FROM EASTBOUND 80. CHP IS
          THERE. THE RAMP IS SHUT
          DOWN UNTIL ABOUT 9:45 A-M.
          TRAFFIC IS A MESS: EASTBOUND
          80 IS BACKED-UP ONTO
          WESTBOUND 580, WHICH IS
          BACKED-UP ONTO WESTBOUND
          24 FROM ROCKRIDGE BART
          STATION. NORTHBOUND 880 IS
          BACKED-UP TO THE POST
          OFFICE. (UPDATED AT 9:58 am)
          \_ No, I'm thinking about the shutdown on Southbound 880 near the
             Coliseum exit around 8:15am.  I saw two CHP cars blocking all
             four lanes and two officers walking around a few hundred feet
             ahead.
troll   \_ The Martians have landed!
troll   \_ no doubt to "protect the public" or for "security reasons".
        the police are supposed to be working for us -- in return for the power
\_troll the police are supposed to be working for us -- in return for the power
        we invest in them, they should completely disclose what they do
        and why, nothing less. the police have too much power if they
        cannot disclose their "reasoning"
           \_ No, no. Orson Welles and the Mercury theater made that whole
              thing up.
        \_ Save a few syllables. Just call it "880 south." No "the." No
           "freeway."
2001/2/26-27 [Computer/Networking] UID:20696 Activity:nil
2/26    Where can I buy an Alcatel Speedstream 3060 DSL modem?
        \_ http://www.alcatel.com
           \_ How about for a cheap price?
                \_ http://www.ebay.com
        \_ I'll sell you mine for cheap -jminor
2001/2/26 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:20697 Activity:high
2/26    Miami Herald reports Gore would've lost anyway with a full
        manual recount: http://www.miami.com/herald/special/news/flacount
        \_ I was going to post that.  Damn it.  I'm going to post it anyway:
           http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-02-25-recount.htm
        \_ Your corporate masters have spoken. Go back to sleep. Democracy
           is safe in our hands.
           \_ Uh huh... and if they said something different, you'd be the
              first screaming for GWB to resign.
        \_ Oh Yeah. "Let Every Vote Count!" Bush should've let it happen,
           and then said to Gore "Looser!". We all knew Gore lost.
           \_ You mean let DNC shills steal it?  And the word is "loser",
              not "looser".  "looser" is yermom.  Went to a diverse school,
              did you?
2001/2/26-27 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:20698 Activity:moderate
2/26    Is California still at some stage of power alert?  Or how did we get
        out of the crisis?  I've been missing the news lately.
        \_ We did not get out of it. We postponed it by racking up
           massive debts that consumers are going to get shafted with.
           This summer is going to have blackouts. -ausman
        \_ The Consumer Utilities (i.e. PG&E) are still on the verge of
           bankruptcy, and the state is still burning millions of taxpayer
           dollars a day to prop them up.  Due to plants returning to service
           from maintenance, the supply is still there and there's no more
           power alerts.   Start saving for your power bills, its going to
           be the taxpayers and power users who wind up paying for this mess.
           \_ Thanks for deleting my post and saying exactly what I said.
              We might be able to avoid blackouts this summer with the
              use of dozens of smallish, high polluting power plants
              scattered throughout the state. It is still being decided.
                \_ You'd prefer we just not have power?
2001/2/26 [Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:20699 Activity:nil
2/26    I'm having trouble starting X/KDE.  I get the error
        "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXext.so.6" not found
        plus a few more missing libraries, all of which exist.  What can I
        do to fix this?
2001/2/26 [Uncategorized] UID:20700 Activity:nil
2/26    Forgive my ignorance, but what does the acronym "SOMA" stand for?  Thx.
        \_ south of market?
        \_ Learn to use Google.
2001/2/26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20701 Activity:high
2/26    Back in 96-97 Netscape declared war to M$ by implementing their own
troll   desktop/file-browser/OS front-end on top of Winblows system. Kinda
        like Windows on top of DOS6.0, but instead you'd have Netscape Desktop
        on top of Windows 95. What happened to that project?
        \_ M$ won the war.
2001/2/26 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:20702 Activity:nil
2/26    Miami Herald reports Gore would've lost anyway with a full
troll   manual recount: http://www.miami.com/herald/special/news/flacount
troll   \_ I was going to post that.  Damn it.  I'm going to post it anyway:
           http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2001-02-25-recount.htm
troll   \_ Your corporate masters have spoken. Go back to sleep. Democracy
           is safe in our hands.
troll      \_ Uh huh... and if they said something different, you'd be the
              first screaming for GWB to resign.
              \_ No, I voted for Nader. The Republicrats are all scum.
troll   \_ Oh Yeah. "Let Every Vote Count!" Bush should've let it happen,
           and then said to Gore "Looser!". We all knew Gore lost.
troll      \_ You mean let DNC shills steal it?  And the word is "loser",
              not "looser".  "looser" is yermom.  Went to a diverse school,
              did you?
2001/2/26-27 [Computer/Networking] UID:20703 Activity:very high
2/26    Is it possible to use ipfw in *BSD to let users do FTP gets but not
        FTP puts?  I'm being asked to let people get stuff from the internet
        but not let them send anything out.  If ipfw can't do it, how about a
        commercial firewall like Cisco PIX or Checkpoint?  Thanks.
           \_ Checkpoint can't. I don't know about PIX, it might have
              tcp payload inspection.
              The easiest solution for you is to install a proxy or
              to hack the ftp server so that PUT is not supported.
        \_ I don't think so--the server initiates the data connection back
           to you, unless you're using passive ftp, in which case both the
           "administrative" and data connections run via port 20.  As
           far as the firewall is concerned, if you're permitting tcp
           outgoing, packet is packet.  All commercial firewalls I know
           of are the same--they cannot distinguish what direction the
           actual files are going in.  Snoop/tcpdump a plain ftp connection
           to see what goes back and forth.  What you can do, however, is
           run an ftp proxy which only permits FTP GET.  -John
        \_ You need a pretty complex firewall to be able to block FTP puts
           but not gets.  It has to inspect the protocol and reset the put
           commands.  I dont remember seeing options for that in PIX, but you
           can check the online cisco docs.  -ERic
           \- use Bro. it groks ftp. you can even RST the connection in
           either dir if you say see a get of *passwd*. ok tnx. --psb
           \_ what's Bro? urlp.
              \_ isn't it otherwise known as the "man-siere"?
              \_ a bra for men? (aka a man-siere)
                 \_ Uh, men don't have breasts. How would this work.
               \_ ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/papers/bro-usenix98-revised.ps.Z.
                  \-more recent version from Computer Networks. See Vern's
                  home page for link. --psb
                  \_ Vern?
2001/2/26-27 [Uncategorized] UID:20704 Activity:high
2/26    Forgive my ignorance, but what does the acronym "SOMA" stand for?  I
        saw it in the phrase "... what's hot in SOMA and Silicon Valley" in
        a head hunter web site.
        \_ south of market?
        \_ Learn to use Google.
           \_ Yes South Of MArket.
        \_ South Of Market Area
        \_ A gramme is better than a damn. -geordan
        \_ And SOHO is South of HOuston
           \_ Pronounced "How-ston" not "Hyoo-ston"
                \_ My born-and-raised-in-Houston friend said "hyoo-ston".
                   \_ Houston, TX, or Houston St., NY?
                   \_ Tell your friend to stay out of Manhattan. "Houston,"
                      as in "South Of HOuston," is pronounced "How-stun"
2001/2/26-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:20705 Activity:low
2/26    "Stanford is Model, Cal's Berdahl Says"
        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2001/02/26/SP135965.DTL
        \_ this is about sports.  you know, when the csua goes poof, and
        this server goes away, i'll be glad that at least the sports inanity
        will dissapear.
        \_ That reminds me of a TV commercial for UCSF a few years ago where
           a nerdy football player got knocked down, couldn't catch a pass,
           and so on.
        \_ The CSUA ain't gonna "go poof"!
2001/2/26-27 [Recreation/Food] UID:20706 Activity:high
2/26    MickeyD's "Vegi" Fries still have animal byproducts:
        http://www.jsonline.com/enter/books/feb01/fast20021901.asp

        Glad I don't eat there or at anyother fast food place. -vegi
        \_ humans didn't claw their way up the food chain just to eat
           vegetables.
           \_ Jimmy: Uhh, Mr. McClure?  I have a crazy friend who says it's
                     wrong to eat meat.  Is he crazy?
              Troy: Noo, just ignorant.  You see, your crazy friend never
                    heard of "The Food Chain." Just ask this scientician.
              Scientician: uhhh...
              Troy: He'll tell you that, in nature, one creature invariably
                    eats another creature to survive.  Don't kid yourself,
                    Jimmy.  If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and
                    everyone you care about!
                    \_ You don't expect us to swallow that tripe?
        VEGETABLES ARE NOT FOOD!! VEGETABLES ARE WHAT FOOD EATS!!
          \_ Meat is about the most unhealth and inefficient method
             with which you can obtain energy to survive. If you
             understand the food chain, the lower on the food chain
             you go the easier it is to digest and the greater the
             energy yield.
             Oh yeah, human went from being uncivilized hunters to
             becoming civilized farmers. Farmers grow crops to eat.
             Civilized == Vegi, Uncivilized == Savage.
             Anyway, when you pass away prematurely because of cholestrol
             buildup in your ateries or you become a bed-ridden invalid
             remember, you were eating "FOOD".
        \_so...you eat meat exclusively?  peper and garlic are both vegetables.
          remind me never to eat your cooking.
2001/2/26-27 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:20707 Activity:nil
2/26    In the HD BIOS config page, what is WPComp/Landing Zone? I know
        what cyln/head/sec mean. Thanks.
        \_ Landing zone is the track where the hard disk "parks" its head
           when the power is switched off.  I don't know what write
           pre-compensation is.  I thought these things are automatic with
           IDE drives these days.  -- yuen
        \_ I used to know when it mattered when we used MFM and "the thing
           that came after MFM that started with R that I can't recall", but
           today, just set precomp to zero and the landing zone to the end of
           your disk if it makes you feel better.  Or better yet, just use
           the bios auto config and forget about it.  What was the "R-thing"
           that came after MFM drives... anyone?
           \_ RLL?
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