Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:January:31 Wednesday <Tuesday, Thursday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2001/1/31 [Uncategorized] UID:20476 Activity:nil 50%like:20477
1/30    What's an "open question"?  Thanks.
2001/1/31-2/1 [Uncategorized] UID:20477 Activity:high 50%like:20476
1/30    What's an "open question"?  Thanks.  -- non-native English speaker
        \_ no difinitive answer
        \_ one that hasn't been solved
           \_ this is the right one.
        \_ He might also be talking about an "open-ended question," which
           grade school teachers call essay prompts these days.  It's
           basically a question that has no right answer but can be answered
           intelligently nonetheless.
        [all wrong answers purged.  let's try to be helpful sometimes.]
        \_ Thanks for all the help!
        \_ Thanks for all the help!  So "Is there life outside of earth?" is
           an open question, while "Should we extend BART to San Jose?" is an
           open-ended question.
           \_ well... most of terrestrial life is "outside" the earth...
2001/1/31 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/Networking] UID:20478 Activity:kinda low
1/30    Arg.  I upgraded from BIND 8.2.2 to 8.2.3 (you wouldn't think that
        would cause problems) and now i'm getting all kinds of errors
        when it tries to load the db files! Can anyone point me to an
        example of the new format.  Thanks.
        \_ New format?  My files worked fine.  I did the make all;make install
           and copied named-xfer into my chroot'd named home, killed and
           restarted named and it ran perfectly.  Maybe you could post a few
           of the errors you're getting?  Please don't post more than a few
           \_ Thanks, but i figured it out.  8.2.2 was allowing me to
                get away with " (  " on its own line and 8.2.3 requires
                it on the line above - as does 9. (feel free to delete
                this thread now, or i'll do it tomorrow)
                \_ Why put ( on it's own line anyway?  Aesthetics?
2001/1/31-2/1 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:20479 Activity:very high
        Columbine style attack on De Anza diverted.  Has Berkeley safety
        gotten better through the years (after Henry's hostage situation)
        \_ Now they shoot students before they go berserk based on a
           personality profile provided by NOW.
        \_ De Anza sucks. This only proves that shit like this happens more
           in community college and the like. It rarely happens in Stanford
           or MIT or Caltech.
              \_ De Anza has a bunch of MIT, Cal, Stanford undergrads
                 during the summer. Also lots of Bay Area residents
                 from these schools take self-help classes at De Anza.
           \_ From the MIT/tech people I've met, I'd say these are where
              the truly unbalanced folks go.
              \_ yeah. sometimes they say things like "I want to meet you
                 at triple rock at 8 pm" and what they really mean is "If
                 there is anywhere in the world i'm going to be at saturday
                 at 8pm it's not going to be triple rock." Inconsistency
                 foreshadows a derange mind.
                 \_ Oh Great Clueless One, you were blown off.  And the ugly
                    part is you don't even realise that.
              \_ hear, hear!
          \_ The Unabomber (UC Berkeley person) hit Cory Hall and other
             places before, didn't he?
                \_ Yes, a bomb went off in Cory Hall.  One poor fellow lost
                   some fingers and I think the rest of his hand as well.
          \_ De Anza has hella fine women. Remember, quality of women is
             inversely proportional to quality of school.
             \_ Supposedly, Berkeley has good looking guys. Does that mean
                that all the guys in Berkeley are idiots and the girls
                are smart?
                \_ No, no, no!  These good looking men are obviously gay; they
                   are an exception to this rule.  Stare at them a little
                   longer, and you'll find out on your own soon enough.
        \_ The guy lives several blocks from me. Nice to know I have sane
2001/1/31-2/1 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20480 Activity:moderate
1/30    In NT, when I try to open or delete a file and it says "The process
        cannot access the file because it is being used by another process",
        is there a way to find out which process is using the file?  Thx.
        \_ lsof
        \_ handleex.exe,
           \_ Is Filemon from the same site better for this purpose?
        \_ reboot
                \_ That won't find out and it also won't release the file if
                   the file is opened again at startup or login.  If you
                   don't know what you're tal-- nevermind.  It's the motd.
                   Go right ahead.
                   \_ If you don't know, you're Tal. -- talg #1 fan.
                   \_ chill.  the answer is meant as a joke.
                        \_ This is Berkeley.  That wasn't funny.
2001/1/31-2/1 [Computer/SW/Database, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:20481 Activity:high
1/31    Wow, I just found out my company's software got cracked by crackers.
        A bit disheartening, but got me thinking, is there any commercial
        software out there that has been found to be uncrackable?
        \_ Just found out?  The moment the software was published it was
           cracked.  Probably took someone about 30 seconds between sips of
           Coke and Oreo cookies.  And no, if the whole binary runs on the
           local machine it can be cracked.  You can make it really annoying
           but that only increases the challenge for the crackers and makes
           your paying customers really pissed off.  Software protection is
           only good to keep the casual pirates at bay and doesn't even do
           that very well.  Let it go, move on.  They wouldn't have paid for
           it anyway.
        \_ Any non-commercial? Or are you trying to say only non open-source
           software can be cracked?
           \_ open source software can be commercial
        \_ I have yet to see a successful crack on Mathematica.  But the
           protection scheme really sucks since the password changes based
           on your hardware config (hard disk size, ethernet card #, etc)
           I paid for the software but found its copy protection mech
           really annoying.
        \_ Only idiots release software with copy protection.
           \- what do you mean by "cracking MMa"? i got around the licensing
           stuff in 1988 or so with adb. --psb
        \_ Incidentally, there is a working crack to Office 2000 SR-1.
           \_ Why do you need to crack Office 2000?  Just install the same CD
              onto tens of machines.
              \_ Please read:  SR-1.  Come back and try again.
                 \_ I see.  What does SR-1 have that prevents someone from
                    installing on multiple machines?
                    \_ Apply the SR-1 patch and see for yourself.  The
                       less destructive approach is to look for articles
                       on Whistler's anti-piracy scheme, which was rolled
                       into the SR-1 update for Office 2000.
        \_ Only idiots release software with copy protection. People who
           are inclined to pay for software will, those who are not will
           go to or something and get fully cracked versions
           for $50.
           \_ Our software sells for $29.99.  That would be dumb. -orig poster
                   \_ Okay, what I ment is your software + all M$ software +
                      all Adobe Software + Oracle 8 + AutoCad + ProE + your
                      favorite software for $50 from
                \_ It isn't about price.  And anyway, your software and 20+
                   others are getting squeezed on the same CD for $9.99.
2001/1/31-2/1 [Uncategorized] UID:20482 Activity:nil
1/31    What's a "shared call drivers" and how does it improve dispatch?
2001/1/31-2/1 [Recreation/Dating] UID:20483 Activity:nil
        Age bias in tech article.
2001/1/31-2/1 [Uncategorized] UID:20484 Activity:nil
1/30    \_ Thanks, but i figured it out.  8.2.2 was allowing me to
           get away with " (  " on its own line and 8.2.3 requires
           it on the line above - as does 9. (feel free to delete
           this thread now, or i'll do it tomorrow)
            \_ Why put ( on it's own line anyway?  Aesthetics?
                \_ Random Neural activity.  That's just how i happened to
                   type it for the first domain.  All others were just
                   basically copies.
2001/1/31-2/1 [Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:20485 Activity:very high 57%like:20472
1/31    Regarding the Soda MkV bios password, why not just reset BIOS?
        \_ i could, but it's old and may not like it so if there's a
           less invasive method, i'm all up for it, otherwise i will
           \_ sign your fucking posts paolo
           \_ Check for a bios password hack on the net.  Never know....
                \_ what kind of bozo would put a BIOS password on a
                   machine in a machine room
                        \_ One who knows just how many other people have
                           access to the machine room and just how often
                           some of them fail to make sure the door closes
                           all the way when they leave.
                                \_ get a fucking clue
                                \_ Uhm, yeah, and?  A bios password will
                                   somehow save you?  Sigh... find a crack
                                   or hack for it on the net.  And oh yeah,
                                   as the above said, get a fucking clue.
                                    \_ umm, judging by the posters present
                                       difficulty, i'd say Yeah a bios pwd.
                                       may save you.  Not everyone has the
                                       same skill set and sometimes just
                                       making things a bit more difficult for
                                       an intruder is all it takes.  There are
                                       plenty of people who just check for
                                       unlocked doors.  I bet you leave yours
                                       unlocked, because, hell, they can always
                                       break a window.
                                   \_ never said it would save you, just that
                                      being in the machine room doesn't make
                                      it any more or less useful to set one
                                      than a machine left in a public place.
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