Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:January:30 Tuesday <Monday, Wednesday>
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2001/1/30 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:20466 Activity:nil
1/29    80 gig IDE HD, only $300 at Frys. Funny that it seems like yesterday
        when I bought my 8 gig HD for $300 5 years ago. What is the IDE max
        that motherboards support nowadays? I remember buying a 10 gig HD
        only to find out that my old motherboard only support 8 gig.
2001/1/30 [Uncategorized] UID:20467 Activity:nil
1/29    My name is Barney Gumble and I'm an alcoholic.
        \_ Mr. Gumble, this is a Girl Scout meeting.
2001/1/30 [Uncategorized] UID:20468 Activity:nil
1/29    "Harry Potter may look like an intellectual with his glasses and his
unruly hair, but once deconstructed he is only too clearly the hero of a
political allegory for the triumph of the socially ascendant petite
        It's tough to be a fictional character sometimes....
2001/1/30-31 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Health/Disease/General] UID:20469 Activity:very high
1/29    For those who are working, do you make any donation to non-profits
        agencies on a yearly basis?  If so, which agencies?
        \_ I put in about $100 last Christmas for Toys for Tots. Although,
           now that I think about it there are probably more pressing
           issues than some kids getting toys. Always try to claim the
           tax benefit to get the most bang per buck (donating securities
           will allow you to avoid the capital gains tax so your charity
           gets more money).
        \_ I never donate. -- L. Ellison.
        \_ Red Cross. They accept credit card. I usually donate $200-$300/yr
        \_ Planned Parenthood, SF AIDS foundation.  Since a friend of mine died
           from cancer, I donate in her name to the American Cancer Society
           every year.  Then, there are friends who ask me to donate $40 here
           and there for their women's cancer marathon or what not.  --chris
        \- I only donate charities who do most of their work in thrid world
        countries where people are often in positions to to be able to do
        much to help themselves. Particularly hunger, basic infrastructure
        like water purification, basic medical treatment and literacy.
        I think you get a lot more "bang for the buck" in this arena rather
        than sending a dying kid to the world series or to fancy first world
        diseases. although bill gates is the spawn of satan, i think often
        made smart decisions about what charties he's given to [i suppose it
        would be politically impractical for him not do donate to some US
        charities]. --psb
           \_ Typical psb. Pontificates without answering the question.
           \_ do you realize that if I donate more money to India, there
              will be MORE Indians flocking to the States who will take
              your job for less pay? Just look at Sunnyvale^H^H^H^H^H^H
              \-i am not sure what you are complaining about when the indian
              govt pays for education that turns into increase in the united
              states gdp. --psb
              \_ If you don't like your job you don't complain. You just
                 go in and do it really half-assed. That's the American
                 \_ Actually it's not but I'm not interested in trying to
                    dispel cultural myths created by the Japanese in the 80s.
              \_ mmmmm...curry
                 \_ mmmmm...pussy
                    \_ mmmmm...bop!
                       \_ mmmmm...die!!!!!!
              \_ goddamn, INDENT your posts properly, especially if you're
                 going to be a dumbass and put them in the middle of other
                 people's.  jebus.
              CurryVille. The Indians are driving up the housing and making
              traffic worse than NYC.
        \_ Well, more "bang for the buck" is a relative measure. Though your
           donations may go farther in the Third World, donations that
           benefit your own community will have a more tangable impact on
           your own life and the lives of your neighboors, which is
           important to some people.
        \_ Yes: UCB, USCA Alumni Association, SF Women's Health Clinic,
           \_ I'm deferring that 10% in my IRA, so that Jesus gets more
              when I'm retired.
              \_ Actually, the 10% does not include the 16% targetted
                 for my retirement cause I want to continue the 10%
                 after my retirement.
                The Oaks Foundation, Dance Safe, SF AIDS Foundation,
                Campaign for Justice, NAACP, ACLU
           \_ why the hell do you want to donate to UCB?
              \_ don't you want your degree from UCB to be worth something
                 in the future?  UCB can't survive on state funding alone,
                 \_ Yes it can. They just need to purge the crooks on the
                    Regents board and stop funding their stupid parties.
                    \_ Well, no, not really.  State funding covers 34% of
                       UC's costs.  There's no likelihood that the state
                       will ever come close to the 70% it once covered.
                       It's a hell of a lot of money.  -tom
                       \_ Just out of curiosity, what's your source for that
                          34% number?  I know that UCB's public relations folks
                          (particularly the Cal Annual Fund) have been using
                          it since at least 1994, and have difficulty
                          believing that it hasn't varied at all in seven
                          \_ that's my source.  It may have varied but I
                             guarantee it hasn't risen.  -tom
        \_ I give about $20 a week to church
        \_ 10% goes back to the Lord.  $300/yr to United Way.
           \_ pre or post tax?
                                                  \- the united way has really
                                                  high administrative overhead
                                                  and in the past has been
                                                  fairly corrupt. --psb
                        My understanding was that it had improved much
                        under the leadership of Elaine Chao, who is now
                        our Secretary of Labor.  Is there a ranking of
                        various charity organizations based on their
                        administrative overhead (as a percentage of
                        each dollar donated, for example)?
           \_ However religious you are, you can't believe that the money is
              going to "The Lord".  He doesn't need your money.  You might
              be giving it to a charity (hopefully) or a church (more likely,
              sadly) in His name, but you certainly aren't giving it to Him.
              \_ Wow, I can't believe how religiously insensitive and/or
                 ignorant you are.  Obviously the money is spent to maintain
                 the church, the center of faith upon which belief in God
                 is maintained, as well as further Christian goals (ie
                 help the poor thru Christ).  No there is no physical vessel
                 that carries money to God.
                 \_ Yeah, those snipers that kill doctors in their kitchen
                    in front of their (the doctor's) children need money
                    for bullets.
                    \_ Ya know I'm probably about 5x more pro-choice than you
                       are but I find this sort of comment stupid and
2001/1/30-31 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:20470 Activity:nil
1/29    what is the max IDE HD size an ATX mother can support?
        \_ Has nothing to do with ATX/non-ATX.  That's only a spec for the
           size of the motherboard.  It has to do with the BIOS installed on
           the mb.  Any modern bios should be able to support your > 32 Gig
           ATA/100 IDE drive with an auto-detect.  Check the manufacturer's
           web page.
2001/1/30-31 [Academia/Berkeley/HKN, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:20471 Activity:kinda low
1/29    Free cs164 manual/reader from Fall 2000.  mail mjm
        \_ Charge $0.50 and the demand will go up.
        \_ I'll bring it to the csua office for a can of coke.
        \_ I've got a lot of shit like this that I'd be willing to give away.
           (164, 186, 61a, etc)... Is there any "reader repository" anywhere?
           \_ ASUC does something like this, but they don't organize it at any
              helpful level.  If the csua could set up a box in the loung, it
              might save some paper.
              \_ There is currently talk of organizing a reader recycling
                 program in HKN. If you _have_ to offload it, drop it off
                 at 345 Soda (HKN office); if HKN doesn't come up with,
                 your stuff will migrate to CSUA. If you don't care that much,
                 just wait for an announcement which will get cc'ed to
                 csua@csua when and if this program does get going. -alexf
2001/1/30-2/2 [Uncategorized] UID:20472 Activity:nil 57%like:20485
01/30   If anyone has/can guess the Soda MkV bios password, email vp@csua.
        (it's been that long).
2001/1/30-2/1 [Transportation/Airplane] UID:20473 Activity:very high
1/30    If you're looking for a vacation on train, I'd recommend Amtrak's
        Coast Starlight.
        I took the Oakland -> Seattle segment and it was great!  The train
        goes through snow-covered forests.  It was really romantic.
        \_ Romantic until it hits some deer or another train or truck or...
           \_ That IS romantic!
           \_ love is fostered under intense situations
              \_ From "Speed"?
        \_ Get a room. Actually, get a sleeper. Bring cigarettes, alcohol,
           and cards and hang out with the smokers after it gets too dark
           to see outside. I do recommend this trip for those who like
           trains. And not just in a "Risky Business" sorta way.
        \_ Why would I vacation on Amtrak?  Ew, yuck, bleah!  Might as well
           go on greyhound....
                \_ train travel is a lot more pleasant than airplane
                   travel.  -tom
                   \_ Not in this country.
                      \_ Absolutely in this country.  It's very slow but
                         there's no comparison in terms of comfort or
                         stress.  -tom
                         \_ Maybe we rode a different Amtrak or have different
                            ideas of comfort.  I'm happy to leave it at that.
                            \_ You are talking to Tom, he's a RIDE BIKE, LINUX
                               SAVE THE WHALES/PLANET type dude. Amish hay
                               rides are 1st Class for him.
                      \_ I took a train from NYC to Boston (and back), and it
                         was a LOT more pleasant than flying.  It was cheaper,
                         more comfortable, and had none of that airport stress.
                         Plus, there were power outlets next to the seats, so
                         I could plug my notebook in.  Connecticut scenery was
                         decent too. -- !tom
                         \_ I took the train from NYC to Boston a few times
                            in the summer.  It was cheaper and more
                            comfortable than flying, but it took a LOT longer.
                            If I could have gotten a $100 round trip ticket
                            like I can between LA and SF, I would. -emin
                            \_ true, but the time saved by flying is a bit less
                               if you account for the time you waste getting
                               to the airport early, getting through airport
                               traffic, etc.
           \_ Seriously, Amtrak sucks.  I was hoping to save some dough going
                going down to LA by train.  After a half-hour with their
                website, I had an itinerary that was 11 hours+ each way and
                cost $50 more than a Southwest ticket.
        \_ HELLO!!! We're in the fast paced information age where the
           destination is more important than the journey. I don't care
           about a stupid train experience, I just want instant gratification
           and that means getting to a place quickly and cheaply. DUMB ASS.
           \_ welcome back kchang!!  we missed you!
                \_ and hello to you, nick tom lila psb immigrant
2001/1/30 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:20474 Activity:high
1/30    I'm on a 10.x.x.x network.  When i send mail from any Sun box my
        mail gets relayed through the company mail server.  When i send
        mail from a linux box, it goes "straight" to the receiving mail
        server.  there is NO special sendmail config. and all boxes are on
        the same physical and logical subnet. What's up?
        I would like to be able to send straight out on the Sun's as well.
        What should i do?  (I have root if nec.)
        \_ It's not clear what the question is.
2001/1/30 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:20475 Activity:nil
1/30    bush's self-fulfilling recession has just begun.
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