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2001/1/24-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:20405 Activity:nil
01/23   Congrat-u-fuckin-lations, your new politburo:
        president: twohey
        vice president: paolo
        secretary: chialea
        treasurer: galen
        librarian: darin
2001/1/24 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:20406 Activity:high
1/23    Where can I get more info on Intel's Merced?
        \_ Not to be flippant, but try http://intel.com?
           \_ At least he didn't ask "How to get info on Merced?"
                \_ http://www.intel.com
2001/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:20407 Activity:high
1/23    Just want to point out that http://citeseer.nj.nec.com is AWSOME.
        \_ I'm an e-business web junky, research is useless.
           \_ You mean you've been laid off from your non-work.
2001/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:20408 Activity:nil
1/23    Top lists priority "PRI".  What is the difference between this
        and niceness?
        \_ niceness is what the user says he wants his process to act like (ie
           how much less resources the user is willing to get for that process
           than he otherwise would); priority is what the OS scheduler
           decides the current priority of the process is
2001/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:20409 Activity:nil
1/23    I heard on the radio (KCBS AM740) this morning about a meeting or
        conference of some sort where twenty startup companies are given
        two minutes each to present their ideas in front of a big group
        (hundreds I think) of venture capitalists to solicit their investment.
        Has anyone else heard about this?  Any more info is greatly
        appreciated.
        \_ Perhaps http://www.goldencapital.net
        \_ Maybe Demo2000 (<DEAD>www.demo2000.com<DEAD>  --chris
2001/1/24 [Computer/Domains] UID:20410 Activity:moderate
1/23    Anybody every used http://thinklink.com for voicemail?  Good or bad
        experiences. -asb
        \_ beta tested and moving to http://www.thinklink.com don't use an
           answering machine anymore, I have it page me when I get vm,
           so I always know when someone's calling me at home. All the
           benefits of a cellphone with none of the downsides. Only
           problem is the personal 877 number. People call it by mistake
           and you have to clear them with support since yer on the bill.
                -=Aubie
           \_ All the benefits?  So like you can call people when you can't
              find a payphone using this?  Kick ass!
                \_ All the benefits: I can ignore twinks like you if
                   I want to.
                   \_ You can do that on a cell phone already and just how
                      many twinks are calling you that often anyway?
                        \_ it's aubie.
2001/1/24 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl] UID:20411 Activity:kinda low
1/22    In perl, how do I read a set of vars from a .*rc file?  In bash,
        I'd just say ". $HOME/.foorc" and all the varname=value pairs come
        into scope.  What's the perl equivalent?
        \_ perldoc -f require
           perldoc -f use
           \_ Both of these require the use of perl's package syntax in
              the .rc file.  I'm looking for something simpler.
              \_ They don't -- just write your rc file with lines like
                 $variable = "value";
        \_ require 'filename.pl';
           ... use the variables you set in that file...
           The only trick is that filename.pl has to end with a positive
           value... just make the last line of the file:
           1;           ##dbushong
                1;
                \_ Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!
2001/1/24 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:20412 Activity:nil
1/22    Linux q: I'm not sure if this is specific to RH but why do the
        runlevel directories contain redundant entries? For example,
        Why do I see links to inet in rc3.d, rc4.d, and rc5.d?
        \_ On Linux you are not required to always go through runlevel 2 to
           get to 3, and so on. Runlevels are independent and you can change
           to any one directly. That's why it makes sense this way. --Galen
2001/1/24 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:20413 Activity:nil
1/22    In Makefile how do I pipe stderr? For example I can't do this:
        default:
                gcc <blah> | tee output.txt
                \_ gcc <blah> 2>&1 | tee output.txt
                   \_ for *sh
                \_ gcc <blah> |& tee output.txt
                   \_ for *csh
        \_ man sh
        \_ gcc <blah> |& tee output.txt
          \_ works in csh/tcsh
        \_ Makefiles use system() to run commands. system uses /bin/sh, so
            you need to use sh syntax for piping.  So like:
                gcc blah | tee output.txt 2>&1
2001/1/24 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:20414 Activity:very high
1/22    BUSH SR: Well, did you meet George?
        ADMISSIONS OFFICER: Oh, yes.  He made light of my weight problem,
        then suggested my motto be "semper fudge."  At that point, he told
        me to relax
        BUSH SR: How were his test scores?
        ADMISSIONS OFFICER: Let's just say this: he spelled "Yale" with a six.
        BUSH SR: I see.  Well, I -- ooh, you know, I just remembered, it's
        time for my annual donation.  I wonder how much I should give.
        ADMISSIONS OFFICER: Well, frankly, test scores like George's would
        call for a very generous contribution.  For example, a score of 400
        would require a donation of new football uniforms, 300, a new
        dormitory, and in  George's case, we would need an international
        airport.
        ADMISSIONS OFFICER: Yale could use an international airport, Mr.
        Bush -- Then maybe a stock exchange market.
        \_ http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F05.html
           for those who don't get the reference.
        \_ Bush, Jr: At this rate I probably won't even get into Vassar!
           \_ BUSH SR: I've had just about enough of your Vassar-bashing,
              young lady!...er..sir!
        \_ Yawn... don't surprise us... you voted for the two time college
           drop out because he's so smart, right?  But I'm sure that wasn't
           reaaaaally like flunking out, he, uh, decided to go serve his
           country or something, instead, right?  You'll "get it" one day,
           but that day obviously hasn't arrived yet.
           \_ he's not just mocking bush, he's mocking the yale addmissions
              office, which richly deserves it.  If you are from an influential
              family or have a desired athletic talent, yale will let undergads
              in pretty much automatically.
                \_ And at what private school is this not true?  Even Cal does
                   this although they don't say so in the catalog.  :-)
                   \_ I thought Cal let you in based on the results of a
                   \_ I thought Cal lets you in based on the results of a
                      random number generator.
                      \_ yes. it's called the SAT.
2001/1/24 [Reference/Law/Court] UID:20415 Activity:very high
1/23    what's better paying a speeding ticket fine and having the point
        added or paying a lawyer to fight it for you?
        \_ A speeding ticket?  Sheesh, go to court, plead guilty and beg the
           judge not to give you a point.  A lawyer won't help unless you
           killed someone while speeding in which case a point on your record
           is the least of your concerns.  A *lot* of people have a point or
           two.  Big deal.
           \_ How does one plead guilty and _not_ get a point?  The only
              way I've seen people successfully remove points, is by
              having a lawyer.
        \_ Depends on whether the case is winnable, how many points you
           already have, and if you can go to traffic school. In general,
           just pay the fine. California considers you a good driver with
           only one point, although your insurance will rise. --dim
           \_ insurance rates rise by how much in general?  How long do
              the points stay on your record?  How long do you get penalized
              by insurance?
              \_ Points stay on your record for 3 years. Your insurance
                 will penalize you for the duration. My insurance went
                 up 10% with 1 point, but it will go up *much* more with
                 2 points (I've had 2 before). --dim
        \_ if you can afford it, get the lawyer to remove the point...and
           especially if you've already got a point on your record.
           \- it depends on the side effects. if it your first point and
           tschool is an option, you could do that. what is your argument
           going to be? they lawyer has to make some kind of argument.
           you may want to look at nolo press book on fighting tickets.
           i suppose you can look at blashfield but at that point better to
           pay a lawyer. --psb
2001/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:20416 Activity:nil
1/24    How can I increase the power output of an FRS radio?
2001/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:20417 Activity:nil
1/24    Are there any senior QA Silk whitebox testers that would be into
        working at a (funded) Voiceportal in Emeryville? How about SS7
        network engineers? Or... as a last resort... how about some
        mindless automatons who will enjoy decieving themselves about
        their indentured servitude? send email - seano
2001/1/24 [Reference/Law/Visa] UID:20418 Activity:very high
1/23    Short of going to an attorney, what are or where can I find some brief
        answers to these:
        \_ motd formatting god was here.  -motd formatting god
        \_ If I marry a foreigne student, can she stay here with me even after
        1) If I marry a foreigne student, can she stay here with me even after
           her visa expires?
        \_ Can she work legally?
          \_ Yes she can, as long as you adjust her status. <DEAD>www.ins.doj.gov<DEAD>
        \_ Can she leave and then come back to the US?
           \_ she should have the green card by then.
                \_ I heard it may take 5 years for her to officially receive
                   a green card.
                \_ A friend of mine did just this. Your lady will get a
                   'provisional' green card (they're now called Alien
                   Registration card, I-551) valid for 2 years. After that
                   you will have to re-apply at the INS, in which to prove
                   that your marriage is genuine and you're still together.
                   I believe both of you have to appear for interview.
        2) Can she work legally?
           \_ with the green card, yes.
           \_ Now, to get the physical green card it would take about 4-6 mos.
              But the INS will stamp her passport with a temporary green card
              that would authorize her to seek employment.
              that would authorize her to seek employment. Of course, this
              can only happen after she is approved a resident status.
        3) Can she leave and then come back to the US?
           \_ if it's non-frequent, most likely not.  You may be questioned
              though by INS.  They could potentially revoke your
              wife's green card.  Most would not leave for the first
              year.
           \_ After her passport is stamped (like I mentioned above), she
              should be able to travel without having to apply for a reentry
              visa to the U.S.
              \_ There's something called a re-entry permit.  Is that for
                 solving this problem?  -- not original poster
                \_ Re-entry permit is for folks (who have pending resident
                   status) who left the country for more than 1 year and seek
                   to return to the U.S. If you're just going to Mexico for
                   vacation, for example, you don't need this. You may be
                   confusing this with an 'Advanced Parole', which is a travel
                   document for those who haven't gotten their green cards yet
                   NOR have gotten their I-485 approved.
        \_ From the above answers, you definitely should see a lawyer
           instead.  Just pay the $50-$100 one hour consultation fee.
           I think if your future wife is already here, she can get a
           I-485 pretty fast which I think allows her to stay and
           get a work permit too.  She then has to do a change of
           status if she does not want to leave the country and re-enter.
           Again, ask a lawyer.
        \_ http://www.shusterman.com is a great site to look up all these things.
           Also read misc.immigration.usa & alt.visa.us newsgroups.
2001/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:20419 Activity:nil
1/23    Is there another place (e.g. cheaper transaction) to get Broadway
        tickets besides http://ticketmaster.com?
2001/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:20420 Activity:high
1/24    Is 'chialea' somehow related to 'chiapet'?
        \_ ch-ch-ch-chia!
        \_ No they're not related, but it is DESTINY.
2001/1/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20421 Activity:nil
01/24   paolo wants to be mentioned on the motd. I'm hereby mentioning
        paolo on the motd. -alexf
        \_ Hi Paolo!
        \_ Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo.
2001/1/24 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:20422 Activity:nil
1/24    I visited http://www.bluemountain.com/eng3/lucywang/CHIharp.html with
        Netscape 4.76, and saw that it automatically fills in my user name and
        password in the form.  How does it do that?  Does it mean a web site
        can possibly fetch my personal info stored in the browser preference
        without my knowledge?
        \_ Paulo.
2001/1/24 [Uncategorized] UID:20423 Activity:nil
1/24    Go to google and do a search on "dumb motherfucker"
        \_ that kicks ass
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