Berkeley CSUA MOTD:2001:January:06 Saturday <Friday, Sunday>
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2001/1/6 [Recreation/Humor] UID:20242 Activity:very high
1/5     i heard one of the most amusing stories ever from my cousin the
        other night, he was getting pissed off by a norwegian guy who kept
        talking bullshit to him etc, and changing nicks and hostnames etc
        just to continue doing so, he did a ping -f host & on him and
        forgot he had to have root privs to turn the damn ping off.... he
        did that from a 155 mbit line... brought down all of vestfold in
        norway, thats 3 million users without connectivity for hal
        \_ It's that easy to bring down a net?
        \_ you idea of amusing differs greatly from mine
        \_ your idea of amusing differs greatly from mine
        \_ And the Rock with the people's penis!
--- You have to have root privileges to _start_ ping -f.
     -f      Flood ping.  Outputs packets as fast as they come back or one
             hundred times per second, whichever is more.  For every
             ECHO_REQUEST sent a period ``.'' is printed, while for every
             ECHO_REPLY received a backspace is printed.  This provides a
             rapid display of how many packets are being dropped.  Only the
             super-user may use this option.  This can be very hard on a net-
             work and should be used with caution.
---
2001/1/6 [Recreation/Media] UID:20243 Activity:nil
1/5     Can the garbage man really do all the things you say it can?
        \_ what?
        \_ the garbage man can.  the garbage man can...
           http://www.snpp.com/episodes/5F09
2001/1/6-16 [Computer/SW/Languages, Computer/Domains] UID:20244 Activity:low
1/5     Is there a way to get passwd map from an nis server from a machine
        not in the nis domain but is allowed to connect via securenets?
        Sort of like yppoll -h host -d domain mapname but one that returns
        the contents and not just the version of the map? Is there a way to
        do this with ypcat without running ypbind?
        \_ I like to waste time.
           \- yes there is. man yp_all. there will be a bit of a learning curve
           if you are not familar with rpc programming and you want to do
           it "right". what the "waste of the time" about? i dunno of a
           canned tool to do this. would be interested if there is one. i seem
           to remember satan does this but uses YP_FIRST and only displays
           the first map entry. --psb
           \- yes there is. man clnt_call, ypclnt/yp_all. there will be a bit
           of a learning curve if you are not familar with rpc programming and
           \- yes there is. man clnt_call, ypclnt. there will be a bit of a
           learning curve if you are not familar with rpc programming and
           you want to do it "right". i suppose i can send you the code if you
           give me some non-cracker reason you want to do this.
           i dunno of a canned tool to do this. would be interested if there
           is one. i seem to remember satan does this but uses YP_FIRST and
           only displays the first map entry.
           what the "waste of the time" comment about? --psb
           \- actually it occurs to me, there may be an easy way to do this
           with netcat. dunno how off the topof my head. --psb
2001/1/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20245 Activity:nil
1/5     PLAY MOTD SURVIVOR!

        Can your motd entry survive careless over-writes?  Or will you be
        trolled into a lengthy discussion which is summarily excised at
        the end of the day?  Watch as geeks fume, pout, and belittle
        each other in anonymity!  Will your motd entry be deleted?  Who
        will be the MOTD Survivor??  (New players are welcome daily
        at /etc/motd.public.)
2001/1/6-16 [Computer/SW/Database] UID:20246 Activity:moderate
1/5     Is there a way to specify an email to not be included when reader
        replies or forwards?  For example, I replied on an email I received
        And the content was empty even I chose to include original text on
        forward and reply.
             \_ Likely the e-mail text was in an attachment, and your mailer
                was configured to not include attachments in replies.
                \_ that wasn't the case.  There are people mentioning that in
                Notes or Oracle mail, you can set some kinda option to disallow
                people forward your email...I wonder that's really such a thing
                   \_ Put the e-mail on /tmp.  Include headers, please.
                   \_ Ditto.  Most likely it's a pilot error or mail client
                      misconfiguration.
        \_ You've not enough clue. Mine more clue.
          \_ so do you have any clue at all how to do that?  If so, show us
             how...
             \_ Likely the e-mail text was in an attachment, and your mailer
                was configured to not include attachments in replies.
                \_ that wasn't the case.  There are people mentioning that in
                Notes or Oracle mail, you can set some kinda option to disallow
                people forward your email...I wonder that's really such a thing
                   \_ Put the e-mail on /tmp.  Include headers, please.
        \_ Use the mail/mailx standard.
                   \_ Ditto.  Most likely it's a pilot error or mail client
                      misconfiguration.
        \_ Use the mail/mailx standard. Or include it, but mess with the
           included message a little to throw off any internal mechanism
2001/1/6-16 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs] UID:20247 Activity:moderate
1/5     http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595100333/002-0507756-4896855
        I didn't know Richard Stallman publishes books for profit. Anyway,
        is this book worth getting?
        \_ We use freebsd here!  We don't need no stinking GNU stuff!
           we have our own stuff!
        \_ well think about this, Do you think it's good to read while
           taking a nice juicy shit?
        \_ It's just the manual that comes with it printed out & formatted
                nicely - the FSF has been doing this for years as a fundraiser.
        \_ Buy it from http://www.fsf.org/order/order.html if you want to
           make a token gesture of support of the GNU Project.  It's kind of
           ironic that it's being sold at Amazon, with rms's attitude
           towards patents...
2001/1/6-16 [Transportation/Car] UID:20248 Activity:low
1/5     Has there ever been a legitimate scientific study done on farting?
        Like the differences in gas output of men and women, eating what
        stuff makes it smell really bad, whether vegetarians fart do not
        smell as bad, etc.
        \_ men produce more gas than women because on the average
           they have more body mass
        \_ well, first of all, you wanna get all scientific and stuff, use
           the word flatulence.
        \_ This is a decent farting page: http://www.heptune.com/farts.html
           It has references to the current literature out there.
           \_ Why do you know this!? This doesn't sound like something you
              just found in Google.
              \_ I consider myself a hobbying fartist. I found the link on
                 http://bored.com. Also featured is the "Scoop on Poop".
2001/1/6-16 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:20249 Activity:kinda low
01/05   Anyone else with @home in Berkeley (I'm northside) experience REALLY
        crappy service since the beginning of November? Bandwidth is still
        good but latency has gone up from 40ms to >200ms.
        \_ After 1.5 yrs of "experience" with @home on Berkeley southside, the
           one thing I've learned is that how your service gets fucked is not
           correlated 90% of the time with how your neighbors' service gets
           fucked. Everyone's gets fucked up once in a while, but asking other
           people in the area doesn't produce significant trends. -alexf
        \_ yup, exact same problem with @home here... up to 50% packetloss
           at times. it sucks. -jlau
        \_ I'm sorry.  I'll try to restrict my pingfloods/nmaps next time.
           - .home user.
           \_ nephew from norway doing ping -f's w/o root access again?
2001/1/6-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:20250 Activity:nil
1/5     Is it feasible to take the OS class below, a second grad-level class,
        and work at a startup?  Thanks.
        http://www.cs.ucla.edu/classes/winter01/cs111/l1/private/admin.PDF
        \_ Possible?  May be.  Should you do it?  No.
        \_ grad-level?  hardly.  this class is equivalent to CS 162 at
           Berkeley.  Note how the prof must spend 5 slides on talking about
           "academic honesty".  Great learning environment at UCLA I see.
           Go ahead and try it, half the students drop within a couple weeks.
        \_ Slide 5 reads "this is THE hardest class in the CS department".
           That tells a lot about their CS department.
        \_ No.  You are dumb.  You must do what ppl tell you to do.
2001/1/6-16 [Computer/Networking] UID:20251 Activity:nil
1/5     My DSL is only ~170K due to distance. Is there any remote possibility
        that they'll improve the rate in the future like the way modems have
        improved from 2400baud to 56K? Cable modem, unfortunately, is not in
        my area.
        \_ Some DSL providers are experimenting with local signal boosters
           to increase distance you can get DSL.  Don't know if that will
           help you.  Probably 2-3 years before it's widespread.
2001/1/6-16 [Reference/Tax] UID:20252 Activity:nil
1/5     What does "head of household" mean? Am I allowed to claim an
        exemption if I don't have a family?
        \_ It means you're supporting someone. It could be a kid or a
           relative, but you can't claim it if you're single and supporting
           only yourself. http://www.fool.com/school/taxes/taxes15.htm --dim
        \_ The 1040 Instruction explains it pretty clearly.  AFAIR if you're
           single and you're living with someone and you pay more than half
           of the living expenses (rent, utility, etc.), you can claim it.
           Paying for his/her tuition doesn't count, for example, because
           tuition is not a living expense.  Please refer to the 1040
           Instruction booklet.
        \_ RTFM. damn, it's in the default tax booklets afterall.
           \_ RTFM THIS: Fuck you.
              \_ That spells RTFY
2001/1/6-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Languages/Misc] UID:20253 Activity:nil
1/5     What's the JDK equivalent of chdir() ?
        \_ You can use JNDI, which has support for directory structures.
           May or may not be relevant.
        \_ None, not cross-platform. There are workarounds mostly app hacking
                or shell script hacking.
           \_ JNI call to a script that does chdir()?
              \_ Current directory is process specific, so if you spawn
                 another process with the script it won't help you at all.
                 You can call chdir() in JNI method -- it might work (dunno
                 if some Java libraries cache the value of the current
                 directory though).  Why do you need it, anyway?
        \_ Use java.io.File. File.isDirectory () tells you if the file is
           a directory. From there, you can do things like File.listFiles (),
           but make sure you do things like File.canRead () and so forth in
           advance.
2001/1/6 [Computer/SW/Unix] UID:20254 Activity:nil
1/5     What's the best way to call conditions in a Makefile?
        \_ call conditions?
2001/1/6 [Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:20255 Activity:high
1/5     Linux 2.4.0 is out.
        \_ /csua/tmp/alexf/linux-2.4.0.tar.gz
           help yourself
           \_ Linux is gay.
           \_ It's ben hax0rd!@1
              \_ Isn't that hard to check the checksums ya know...
2001/1/6 [Uncategorized] UID:20256 Activity:nil
1/4     Anybody have an idea why soda's sshd host ID keeps changing?  -John
        \_ someone is pulling man in the middle attacks on you.
2001/1/6-16 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:20257 Activity:high
1/5     I'm looking for the following incidents in a decent digital format
        Letterman vs. Simmons - Simmons as giant turkey
        Romanian Bank Robbers vs. LA cops (1998)
        The Play
                \_ http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/research/cmt/vfs/sports
                \_ http://www.cyberbears.org/links/images/ThePlay.mov
                   http://www.cyberbears.org/links/images/ThePlay.wav
                   \_ try again.
                       http://www.sfgate.com/gate/av/movies/1998/11/18/theplay.mov
                       \_ yuck.  we need high resolution.  we need audio.
                          i haven't seen a decent stream yet.
                \_ This is kinda pathetic.  Someone should've made a good
                   version ages ago.
                \_ http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~ucrc/rivalry/ThePlay.mov
                   is pretty good.  -John
        \_ I've got a quicktime of The Play but it's not exactly the best
           quality; I can mail it to you if you want -hjkim
        \_ patterson@cs has The Play in RA format or something to that extent;
           shows it on last day of 61C every time he teaches it
                \_ RA format is only useful for broadcast.  MPEG is more
                   likely for local video archives.
                   \_ "Useful for" != "used for"
                \_ http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/research/cmt/vfs/sports
                \_ http://www.cyberbears.org/links/images/ThePlay.mov
                   http://www.cyberbears.org/links/images/ThePlay.wav
                        (you didn't specify audio or video)
           \_ Actually, Patterson's copy is on video tape.
              - seen Patterson's last lecture twice
        \_ The RIAA is going to kick your ass.
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