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2000/11/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:19939 Activity:moderate
11/28   Overheard on wall.log:

        Doesn't james baker remind you of the emporer in star wars?

        Seems to me liberman looks more like senator palpatine than
        baker.
        \_ http://www.ilovebacon.com/jokes/112800b.shtml
           the picture says it all.
              \_ On a related note, the following is quite funny:
                 http://www.ilovebacon.com/media/112800.shtml
           \_ Lieberman and Teller really look alike.  I wonder whether
              those two can still pull the rabbit out of the hat.
        \_ what about Gore and Commander Riker?
           \_ Data maybe, not Riker. Cheney looks a little like Picard.
        \_ Leiberman looks more like one of those chinese fighting dogs with
           the tons of loose skin, giant wrinkles of flesh and floppy jowls.
        \_ at least we all know who gw looks like:
           http://gwbchimp.8m.com
2000/11/29 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:19940 Activity:nil
11/29   I'm having trouble compiling a simple program that uses
        sigempytset et al on Linux.  gcc keeps complaining that
        sigaction has no storage and the other funcs are not
        defined. Is there some trick to get this to work? (I've
        included <signal.h> and my prog. compiles and runs fine
        on BSD and Solaris).
2000/11/29-30 [Reference/Celebration] UID:19941 Activity:very high 66%like:21191 66%like:19502 66%like:19331 66%like:19052 66%like:18735 66%like:18435
11/29   Happy birthday, geordan!
        \_ sign your name, twink.       - !geordan motd sentimentalist
           \_ I didn't even know I had minions.  It almost brings
              tears to my eyes. -geordan
                \_ More happy points to you, you Cruel Happy Demigod.
        \_ age?
           \_ XXIV
           \_ 0x18
           \_ 030
        \_ younger than me - paolo
2000/11/29-30 [Recreation/Pets] UID:19942 Activity:moderate
11/28   So how is that "more" is able to get keyboard commands when you're
        already piping data to it via stdin while executing something like
        cat foo | more ?
        \_ Good question.  It's an ugly hack: it reads your keyboard
           input from stderr, which is usually your terminal.  (And yes,
           this means that more won't work if you redirect its stderr.)
           The problem is that unix doesn't let a command in the middle
           of a pipeline, like more, get access to the stdin of the
           command at the beginning of the pipeline.  You see this with
           xargs too: "cat users | xargs mail" looks like it should do
           the same thing as "mail `cat users`", but it doesn't -- it
           actually sends a blank mail to each of those users, because
           xargs can't read the stdin of the entire pipeline.
           \_ as usual, good question, idiotic answer. stderr is not
              readable. see aaron's comment below. more opens its
              controlling tty and reads directly from there.
              \_ stderr is readable, and more really does read it; try
                 "truss more" on Solaris.  (FreeBSD's "more" is actually
                 a link to less.)
        \_ learn about ttys. stevens apue is a good start --aaron
        \_ magic.
2000/11/29 [Recreation/Dating, Computer/SW/Security] UID:19943 Activity:nil
11/28   http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,40369,00.html
        \_ Sign up fast before they run out!!  Finally, women that geeks have
           a chance with!
2000/11/29-30 [Recreation/House] UID:19944 Activity:high
11/28   Where besides home depot can I get a new set of double-glazed
        glass patio doors?  (around here)  --PeterM
        \_ what's wrong with home depot?
            \_ The problem with home Depot is they already screwed the
               order up in detail, while giving a stupid run-around and
               lying about the problems.  Need another source.  --PeterM
                \_ it's a shitty hardware store, for one thing.
                   Try Orchard Supply Hardware.  -tom
                        \_ yeah, just take his word for it.
        \_ For a big greedy corporation, they aren't that bad...
           They give back to the communities where they open stores,
           and they practice equal-opportunity employment.
           \_ Who doesn't practice or claim it practices EOE?  Isn't that
              required by law?
              \_ oh yeah... uh... I guess you're right. Well I guess they
                 like exceed the minimum requirements. or something.
                 \_ Besides the fact that they employ morons and drive good
                    hardware stores out of business, they just don't have
                    a good selection of hardware.  Everything is pre-packaged,
                    it's a terrible place to go if you actually have
                    problems to solve.  -tom
                        \_and tom has had more than an average share of
                        problems, so he's an authority on this.
2000/11/29-30 [Recreation/Activities, Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Computer/HW/IO] UID:19945 Activity:nil
11/28   How do you make a frame smaller in emacs when running in
        terminal mode? In X its easy, just use the mouse, but I
        can't figure it out in terminal mode.
        \_ Something like meta-x-shift-6 if I recall.  I'm not kidding.
        \_ ESC - 1 C-x ^   -- yuen
2000/11/29 [Uncategorized] UID:19946 Activity:nil
11/28   http://www.clonejesus.com
2000/11/29-12/1 [Uncategorized] UID:19947 Activity:nil
11/28   Hey I know someone knows this.  Sun sells Forte C++ Enterprise
        and Personal eds.  They say the Personal ed. is one user, one
        machine.  I know this means node locked, but can different
        users login and use CC at different times?  The Personal ed. doesn't
        have a this-user-only lock does it?  Thanks.
2000/11/29-30 [Recreation/Media] UID:19948 Activity:nil
11/28   NBC orders affiliates not to play Dubya's post-certification speech!
        http://www.drudgereport.com/nbc.htm
        \_ Duh!  The Titanic was more important.
2000/11/29-2001/1/17 [Uncategorized] UID:19949 Activity:nil
11/29   New office combo on Mon 11/27; mail librarian if you need it.
2000/11/29-12/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:19950 Activity:nil
11/21   CSUA POLITBURO ELECTIONS will be held at the next GENERAL MEETING.
        Tuesday, Dec 5th. 6:00pm. 337 Soda Hall. Make your voice heard! Vote!
2000/11/29-30 [Computer/SW/Security] UID:19951 Activity:high
11/29   So, i have host based ssh authentication going; i think.
        How to test?  If i try to use scp from an authorized
        user/host it still prompts me for a password.  Does that
        mean i don't have it set up correctly? (i'm using openssh)
        \_ If you mean you want to use a .shosts file, you need to:
           * make sure the server has:
             RhostsRSAAuthentication yes
             IgnoreRhosts no
           * put the hostname (and optionally username) in ~/.shosts for
             the target user (on the server)
           * ssh from the _server_ to the _client_ using the same hostname
             that the client will reverse as (i.e. if your client is 1.2.3.4,
             and 1.2.3.4 reverses as <DEAD>joebob.example.com<DEAD>,
             ssh <DEAD>joebob.example.com<DEAD>)  If your client is a windows box, this is
             more complicated and you'll need to configure your client software
             to generate and use an ssh host key.  Make sure the host key is
             in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
           * ssh -v server from the client to test
           --dbushong
           --uglydbushong
2000/11/29-30 [Uncategorized] UID:19952 Activity:nil
11/29   Should my valet accept butterfly knives?
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