11/21   There will be a new office combination as of Monday the 27th of
        November.  Email librarian@csua if you think that you need the
        combo, and be prepared to explain why.

11/21   The next meeting, 5 Dec 2000, will be a GENERAL MEETING.  We will
        be electing a NEW POLITBURO.  If you would like to save the csua,
        please come to 337 Soda and make your voice heard!

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11/21  hand-count must be counted, but it will not be enough!

11/21  What's the slaray and options range for a Java Developer nowadays?
       BS/EECS with 2+ years of experience, mostly not Java tho.
       \_ http://www.salary.com
          \_ $83k
          \_ I'd swear <DEAD>salay.com<DEAD> is run by some company trying to get people
             hired for peanuts.  I think their figures are bogus.  I believe
             they're the ones that take a countrywide average and then add
             some unknown figure for location.  It's all voodoo.
       \_ 80K - 100K.

11/21  Boring motd expunged.
       \_ thank you.
          \_ pas d'problem mon ami. - #1 touriste americane.
             \_ Try using a French phrase book. Your grammar/spelling is
                off.
       \_ motd formatting god was here.

11/21  Where do I dump my /usr/contrib stuff?

11/21  hand-count must be counted, but it will not be enough!
        -_Gore stole election
          \_ He's getting help:

       http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/21/110744.shtml

11/21  hand-count must be counted, but it will not be enough!
        -_Gore stole election
          \_ Of course it'll be enough.  Our people are doing the check for
             voter intent.  They're going to intend 1000+ Gore votes from
             thin air.  The kicker is that the FL SC used Illinois law in
             their ruling.  I got a big laugh out of that.  Home state to
             Daley and his vote box stuffing machine!  Great stuff!  Pie in
             the face for all republicans! ahhahahhahha!
          \_ He's getting help:

       http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/21/110744.shtml
       http://foxnews.com/election_night/112100/militaryballots_kehnemui.sml
       http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/11/21/114527

11/21  David Broder thinks that this is the sadest thanksgiving since
       Kennedy died. Why to people think that Kennedy dying was a bad
       thing? (I mean aside from the fact that LBJ and his BS came
       about). I've never understood this adulation for Kennedy. He
       was an awful president and an even worse man.
        \_ I've heard he was an adulterous speed addict.  --PeterM
        \_ People are stupid.  The press helped create this "Camelot" image
           for him.  Why is the other Kennedy still in office instead of in
           jail?

11/22   Miami-Dade decided to scrap the rest of their handcount and just
        count the 'undervotes' in a small room outside the view of the press
        and public.  It was funny seeing all the whiney repubs outside the
        door chanting and yelling about it.  GO GORE!

11/22   Thank God the Florida Supreme court finally made a solid decision and
        has put the final nail in the Republican coffin.  I don't care that
        their ruling was clearly a sham and the US no better than any third
        rate banana republic.  The ends justifies the means.  We must destroy
        the republicans at any cost.  They are evil.
        \_ I take it you are a member of the COMMITTEE TO ELECT ALGOR BY
           ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
                \_ What's wrong with that?

11/22   How come our e-mail addresses now say
        user@soda.csua.berkeley.edu instead of user@csua.berkeley.edu? I
        have to go fix my listing in a bunch of mailing lists now.
        \_ No wonder I am not getting a bunch of emails I am supposed
           to get.

11/21   Disk quotas raised to 30M soft 35M hard.

11/22   How many static IPs do you usually get from your DSL service?
        Do they use subnetting?  Besides host 0 and 255, all the others
        assigned IPs can be used for web server, etc.?
        \_ Default = 1, but you can order up to 4 from PacBell I believe
           (costs extra, of course). I have one but use a gateway router
           to share the connection across four computers.
           \_ with pacbell, you get one for their basic level of service.
              If you order 'enhanced DSL' not only do you get a non-PPPOE
              connection (i.e. real ethernet), you get routed to you a
              /27 ( 3 bit subnet,  6 useable IP addresses, one used by
              your PBI gateway).  So you get 5 IP's, for your ~$79/month. -ERic
        \_ depends on your ISP. I have firstworld and they give two
           static IP addrs per account. (You can possibly get more).
        \_ @home provides 1 and you can get up to 4 more for $5/month each.
           \_ But doesn't @home limit your total connections?  They asked
              my mother for MAC addresses of all machines to be used.
                            \_ This won't to jack for them if you are
                               using nat/pat. The next hop will only
                               see one MAC. Most likely they do bandwidth
                               shaping, by turning on discard queues after
                               a certain data rate has been exceeded.
                \_ They didn't ask me for diddly and don't know diddly about
                   any of my machines.  They installed the line and modem,
                   tested it, I approved the work, they left.
                   \_ they dont have to "ask you". They jsut bind to the
                      first MAC addr that requests access.

11/22   In NT, the Task Manager displays the amount of memory currently used
        and the CPU % utilization.  Is there any tool for Win98 that displays
        the same info?  Need to profile some software.  Thanks.  -- yuen
        \_ There's a bunch of third party ones.  Try <DEAD>tuwcows.com<DEAD>.  I don't
           know if MS has released one.  Uhm, hmmm, there is a non-dyanmically
           updating tool from MS that provides some info and a bunch of other
           random stuff but I can't recall the name.  Not in real time anyway
           though so I don't think that'll help you.  Try tucows.
        \_ wintop (in Win95's KernelToys package) shows you the cpu
           utilization for different processes.  doesn't show memory use though