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| 2000/10/31 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:19605 Activity:low |
10/30 vote anarchy
\_ a vote for anarchy is a vote for yermom
\_ vote cthulhu, why choose the lesser of two evils, when you
can choose evil itself. |
| 2000/10/31-11/1 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Computer/SW/Languages/Web] UID:19606 Activity:nil |
10/30 22498 www 105 0 572K 504K RUN 39.6H 64.09% 64.09% httpd
What's going on?
\_ I told that streaming VRML porn was a bad idea!
\_ that's just my infinite loop CGI script. -fucker |
| 2000/10/31 [Politics/Domestic/Election, ERROR, uid:19607, category id '18005#41.2038' has no name! , ] UID:19607 Activity:insanely high |
10/30 Thinkers, no-bullshitters, egalitarians, civil rights enthusiasts,
people opposed to imbalance of power/fascism, and for the environment,
please support the NADER campaign. http://www.votenader.org
If you're too scared to vote for Nader because you think Bush is
worse than Gore (hah!), at least get a friend to vote for Nader
in a state where Gore will win anyway. <DEAD>www.nadertrader.org<DEAD>
\_ Can you please tell me what states these are? I
am considering voting for Nader (or convincing
friends to) but havent found any good polls-by-
state to base my decision on.
\_ The <DEAD>nadertrader.org<DEAD> site has this information.
\_ FYI, California is not a Gore-secure state
\_ Thank God, but I'm still waiting for the
day when CA wakes up and realizes that
liberalism is a failure.
And for sure sign the petition to ask Gore to step down and let
Nader take the lead, http://www.PetitionOnline.com/ydg
great comments there...
\_ listen, troll. there are two kinds of people who talk about
politics on the motd: librtarians and communists. everyone
else gave up along time ago except for trolls. nader is
neither a libertarian nor a communist, therefore you are a troll.
\_ Nader is a socialist, he believes govt can solve problems.
He wants to reform govt by making govt larger... it doesnt make
any sense.
In fact, govt, in its current form (ie. size), IS the problem.
If you are going to vote for a third party, Harry Browne
(Libertarian) is by far the best choice.
\_ Libertarian ideas seem sensible, but the only reason I won't
\_ Nader's campaign is a giant vanity project, he
has no chance of winning, every vote he gets makes
it more likely the Beelzebubba I mean george w bush
will get elected. yeah you can sit around all day
and say how noble and uncompromising nader is, but
the other 2 in the race have spent their lives as
politicians, where you have to compromise, and occasionally
make choices that will be unpopular 20 years later. nader
doesn't have this problem since he has studiously avoided
elected office his entire life, but that doesn't make
him the best man for the job - danh
vote for a libertarian is because the libertarian platform
on the environment is, "Well, if the land that needs protection
is privately owned, then the owners will recognize the value
of not trashing it." I think that's a huge oversimplification
of the issue. What is meant by "value"? Value is often a
comparision of one thing to another for a particular person.
Is a forest worth more to its owner than a billion dollars?
"Lets see, the cost to the rest of the planet is small and
distributed collectively. So I'll take the billion dollars."
-- jeffwong
\_ This position pertains to development of natural resources
on public lands - in other words if they have to
pay a fair price for the land.
\_ What is with the obsession some people have for the
"environment"? Its a bunch of damn trees. get over it.
\_ Actually, Nader is an anti-corporatist, he wants to reduce fascist
control of our lives while protecting our rights and our planet.
On what basis do you claim he wants to increase government?
\_ http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html You tell me. They are evil
and insane, and Darth Nader is their leader.
\_ Nader would de-privatize America. He wants to disassemble the
greatest economic system in the history of the world.
\_ Greatest economic system??? That's a laugh!
If you want quality of life, and something for future
generations, and a healthy society, this economy fails.
\_ If Nader has admitted
\_ Really? I have a better quality of life than my
parents, and my children (if I have any) will have
a better life than me. Its all thanks to capitalism
and american exceptionalism.
\_ Um, actually, <DEAD>nadertrader.org<DEAD> is the greatest economy
\_how does it follow a consumer advocate would dismantle
an economy? educated consumers increase the efficieny of
the market.
\_ He is not a consumer advocate, he is a weird freakish
man that hates corporations. He doesn't help educate
consumers he simply scares them and threatens companies.
Competition increases the efficiency of the market, not
fear mongering weirdos. If you are thinking about voting
for Nader, you might try the COMMUNIST party instead.
tirade from Nader.
\_ Ironic that he's against fluoride, ay? :)
Protect your precious bodily fluids!!!
\_ that he's a consumer advocate is well known,
provide proof otherwise. same for accusation that
he hates all corporations. educated consumers do
increase the efficiency of the market. don't
spout drivel you can't support.
\_ He's not a consumer advocate. He simply
attacks companies and products he doesn't
like. The free market has created better
safer and more useable products than any
tirade from Nader. Innovation in the high
tech sector (cisco, sun, intel, etc) happened
because innovation generates money in a
free market. Nader would stifle this sort
of innovation.
\_ he campaigns against flouride, for heaven's sake.
The guy's a crackpot. -tom
Furthermore he has called for the breakup
of the banking system and the fortune 500
along with more regulation on small business.
If that doesn't mean he's against corporations
I guess you are just more clued into Naders
propoganda than I am.
\_ it's only up for debate by crackpots.
It's like Mumia's guilt. -tom
Where do you get this notion that educated
consumers increase the efficiency of the
market? DUH, companies trying to make a profit
and increase shareholder wealth increase the
efficiency of the market.
\_ I love how anonymous crackpot cowards
use ad hominem attacks. How do you think
"conventional wisdom" got that way?
What do dentists have to gain from
water flouridation? It's not like it's
some major cash cow for industry; in
fact it reduces dentist's revenues by
reducing tooth decay problems, especially
in poor neighberhoods. Do a web search
on "water flouridation", it's obvious
that the only people negative on it are
crackpots. Like Nader. Sign your name,
coward. -tom
\_ My dentist said fluoride is very harmful in
the water and only effective for children
\_ it's called "accountability" -tom
your ignorance is a fact, not an attack.
but to the flouridation argument; you
miss the point. the issue is not
whether flouridation helps teeth, it's
how much flouride children get in
their systems from all sources. but
you still haven't offered a reasoned
dismal of nader yet. go ahead,
continue to ignore the topic if you
like, and hope i forget.
\_ the topic is that he's a crackpot,
and you haven't offered a reasoned
dismal [sic] of that. -tom
of a certain age if taken in a certain way.
\_ is that the best you can do? the effect of
\_ why should I come up with a
"reasoned dismal" of Nader when
you haven't said anything to
support him? -tom
flouride in our water is up for debate.
pick something else.
\_ okay, that is the best you can do.
no doubt you base all your opinions on
conventional wisdom and rely on ad
hominem attacks to distract from
your ignorance. your hallmark, actually.
\_why sign names? it's not verifiable,
and it's only egoistic in a debate.
\_ why should i defend against
unsupported accusations. |
| 2000/10/31-11/1 [Uncategorized] UID:19608 Activity:low |
10/30 Is it just me, or it seems that Aiken's exams, called language(A),
are generated by ambiguous grammar G? The guy is an absolute dickhead
\_ He's too 'l33t 4 u d00d!
\_ It's just you.
\_ Dickhead is an absolutist term, yet dickheads are never absolute.
\_ I have yet to meet a non-"absolutist" dickhead. |
| 2000/10/31 [Academia/GradSchool] UID:19609 Activity:high |
10/30 A poll here-- who is applying for grad school now, for fall
admission 2001?
\_ are you?
\_ I am - ! original poster
\_ where are you applying? M.S.? PhD?
\_ MS, I'm applying to Cal, the farm, UCSC, SJSU,
CalTech and possibly A&M and Rice. I'm looking
for local schools so I can continue working and
vesting while studying. I'm applying to CalTech
(don't think I'll get in, but you never know if
you don't try), A&M and Rice cause they have 1
yr programs so I can take an LOA and go there.
\_ if your company is big enough, maybe they
have remote sites near a school you may want
to go to.
\_ We were bought by Sun recently, so I guess
I could go to Co. but not many other places. |
| 2000/10/31 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:19610 Activity:nil |
10/30 Vote how much bull you think the candidates are saying.
http://politics.bayarea.com/election/docs/bull_question2.html |
| 2000/10/31-11/1 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/Classes] UID:19611 Activity:moderate |
10/30 For those of you unfortunate enough to have selected UC Berkeley
for your undergraduate CS *cough* education, you will want to
check out: http://aduni.org
"Our goal is to offer the world's best computer science education,
at an undergraduate level, to people who are currently unable to
obtain it." (Berkeley undergrads match this criterion)
\_ I got my medical degree that way. I can now legally perform over
137 operations in this country, Haiti, and seven other islands.
\_ shut up paolo
\_ heh heh. heh.
\_ I think that its 4700. It was 4500 when I applied (93).
\_ may not have anything to do with the original post but,
4850 (he had 4870).
what's the current academic index needed to get into
EECS? What GPA do you need to get into L&S, CS?
\_ I think that its 7700. It was 7500 when I applied (93).
From what my brother tells me BioE had the highest at
7850 (he had 7870).
\_ I thought index = GPA*1000 + SAT Verbal + SAT Math +
Achievement Test English + 2 other Achievement Tests?
That's around 8000 or so in the old days...
\_ Oops, I wrote 4 instead of 7. Fixed.
\_ It's GPA*1000 + SAT I + 3 SAT II's (formally called Achievements)
math and English comprising two of the SAT II tests. ~7340 was
required for automatic admission back in '96, but I think they got
rid of automatic admission two years go.
\_ The problem with the concept is it suposedly gives it to
people otherwise "unable to obtain it".
The most common factor for this is money. But if you need
money, you probably will NOT be able to dedicated an entire
year of your life solely to this program, and not to making
money keeping yourself in rent and foot. Which is what
presumably would be neccessary for this "one intense year." |
| 2000/10/31-11/1 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19612 Activity:high 61%like:19626 |
10/30 Are there any 24 hr oil change places in/around Berkeley?
\_ It's called the San Francisco Bay. Stop driving already.
\_ No. Berkeley's retail stores as a set can be considered as
a vast outdoor mall which closes at 11:30, after which the
mall security (Berkeley PD) come to beat up and generally
harass any remaining shoppers and/or loiterers (homeless).
Thank you for shopping Berkeley!
\_ being pissed about berkeley's businesses closing early
is fine, but do you really want a 24 oil change place
in your neighborhood? I've never even seen one
anywhere.
\_ Fuck NIMBYism.
\_ AROUND motherfucker, do you know what it means?
\_ No. Now fuck off. |
| 2000/10/31 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:19613 Activity:nil |
10/30 Just reading slashdot, and I can't believe that fool Nader:
"I'd really put meat in the process of progressive taxation.
The richer people are, the more the percentage you pay.
After all, it's their influence that rigged the system to get
them that rich to begin with. And, second, we should tax
things we don't like. We should tax stock market speculation.
We should tax pollution. We should tax activities that we
don't like, like sprawl, in order to get a better planning
system and better zoning system. And we should lighten the
taxes on things we do like, like honest labor, like food."
Do you Nader people actually believe this bullshit?
1. People got rich because they rigged "the system"? Yeah,
people who earned degrees at schools like Cal and then
worked 80 hours a week at compaines to generate revenue
of thier companies which translated into value for thier
options somehow rigged the system to "get rich". |
| 2000/10/31 [Uncategorized] UID:19614 Activity:nil 66%like:19617 |
10/30 We don't care about slashdot, and we know Nader's a crackpot.
\_ [Comments deleted] |
| 2000/10/31-11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election, ERROR, uid:19615, category id '18005#6.34122' has no name! , ] UID:19615 Activity:high |
10/30 All polls, voting, tooth paste/POE, and other complete crap deleted.
\_ <DEAD>www.VoteNader.org!!!<DEAD>
\_ [www site promoting particular candidate with zero chance of
anything deleted]
\_ How dare you say that about mah mommy Bushie???
\_ Try http://www.VoteNader.org instead
\_ [deleted again] |
| 2000/10/31-11/1 [Industry/Startup] UID:19616 Activity:very high |
10/30 What's up with deleting the anti-Epicentric comments? Were they too
accurate and painful? Don't hide your head and your career in the
sand.
\_ No, they were neither accurate nor painful. Besides, you're
the anonymous one, so who's hiding whose head and career? I
encourage you and anyone else to check out the website and
the job posting to check out the facts. Thanks. --peterl
\_ say hi to luis for me, if he's still there. i emailed
you about that, but you didn't reply, peterl. --chris
\_ Yeah, I made it all up. And not wanting to get sued by anyone
is certainly less important than 'proving' anything by signing
by name. Let us all know when they don't IPO again and finally
go under. Oh btw, *very* basic questions: how many rounds of
funding do they have, how much was the last round and how much
is left? If you don't know that stuff, you know nothing and
no matter what you think of my anonymity, your naive would
certainly be proven. And as far as my career goes, I was
already earning $25k more than their 'offer' with 3x the stock
as a percentage of company. Currently $50k more than their
offer with similar options ratio. I know of others doing better
but I've got nothing to be ashamed of. Might have something to
do with all those *questions* I ask which you won't.
\_ So, what part of "go to our website" don't you understand?
You can find out about our funding, our support, etc, etc.
It's simply much faster for me to point out the source
of the information rather than answer individual questions,
but if you must know I've worked there for 14 months, so
I do *actually* know what's going on. Speaking of getting
sued, I don't think you have to worry about breaking your
NDA because nothing you said is proprietary, or correct,
frankly. Well, I guess the only thing you'd have to
worry about is slander ;) I'd *love* to discuss detailed
financial information with you, but that would be a
breach of *my* NDA. However, anyone who wants to know
the truth should come to our website, and sign-up for
an interview so you can talk to us. --peterl
\_ So you mean the VP *lied* to me in the interview about
their future IPO plans? Ok, that makes me feel really
great about working there. Glad they didn't make an
offer worth considering. Greed might have overcome my
better sense. And not being there in the interview with
your VP of Engineering, you have no clue about whether
or not what I said happened in the interview is true or
not. Head in sand, boy. Head in sand.
\_ The truth: 75 customers, 180 employees. I hope you're
getting at least $150k from each customer (and that's
only going to get you to breakeven!) $35million in
funding will only last you another year. But then
again that's the average length of Silicon Valley jobs
these days.
\_ let someone see and decide for themself. Every
job is a calculated risk that one takes. Thanks
for the input, maybe Epicentric is a risk, but
to each his own. --chris (who doesn't work at
Epicentric for her own reasons but has nothing
against them)
\_ Yeah, let's not warn anyone or god forbid encourage
the stupid geeks to ask the right questions. Let's
just all shutup and get chris another hiring bonus.
Let's all just sign up and find out for ourselves
the hard way. Way to go chris! Teach those young
geeks the best way to improve their futures!
Walking blind and stupid into a company you know
nothing about isn't a calculated risk. You don't
have the information to calculate anything. That's
not a risk. It's just plain old stupid.
\_ websites are just spin anyway.
\_ Yep. Bingo.
\_ Most are, but luckily many of those are dying.
Everything's spin anyway -- politics, news, dreidels,
and so on -- and working for a fuckedcompany doesn't
even matter if you enjoy yourself and get paid.
work != life. It's a very important aspect of life,
but I repeat IT IS NOT YOUR LIFE. Geez, these kids
nowadays....
\_ The point of working for a startup isn't to get paid.
It is about the _chance_ to possibly get a lot of wealth
in a very short period of time. If you just want a job
that'll always pay, try McDonald's. They're doing quite
well. |
| 2000/10/31-11/1 [Politics/Domestic/Election, ERROR, uid:19617, category id '18005#6.77785' has no name! , ] UID:19617 Activity:insanely high 66%like:19614 |
10/30 We don't care about slashdot, and we know Nader's a crack Raider.
\_ Are Nader's supporters called Naders' Nuts?
\_ [Comments deleted]
\_ but would he raid yermom's crack?
\_ C'mon, Nader and all his college buddies know that this
isn't a big deal.
\_ http://www.VoteNader.org kick ass on the putrid powerstructure dude! |
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